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Max Novendstern tweets link indefinite optimism to Vitalik Buterin's Ethereum virtual machine and OpenAI's scaled transformers while contrasting Peter Thiel's strategic assessment

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Beff applies the idea to stochastic physics in Extropic hardware.

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Thiel apparently liked to say that “indefinite optimism” was the worse of all quadrants. But that surely was the spirit Vitalik was in when he said, “maybe we stick a Virtual Machine onchain,” or OpenAI was in when they said, “maybe we crank transformers to the max.” Demanding determinateness was the midwit trap that exited you from the timeline.

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"maybe we could use the stochastic physics of hardware to run probabilistic algorithms" indefinite optimism behind @extropic

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Thiel apparently liked to say that “indefinite optimism” was the worse of all quadrants. But that surely was the spirit Vitalik was in when he said, “maybe we stick a Virtual Machine onchain,” or OpenAI was in when they said, “maybe we crank transformers to the max.” Demanding determinateness was the midwit trap that exited you from the timeline.

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