I wrote about how accumulating capital won't save you from being disempowered by superintelligent AI.
Writer @zetalyrae argues that holding capital or AI lab equity won't protect elites from disempowerment by superintelligent AI
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An essay by Fernando Borretti contends that superintelligent AI automating all labor leaves no safe harbor for elites through capital, property, or stakes in labs like OpenAI and Anthropic, since governance itself would shift under AI advantages and humans become redundant; only wide systemic alignment might avert a locked-in underclass.
Wealth Loses Its Leverage
Even billionaires and states lose practical power once AI outpaces human decision loops in every domain, turning ownership claims into unenforceable abstractions rather than reliable shields.
Governance Holds The Real Stakes
The piece frames human survival as hinging on collective alignment mechanisms instead of individual hedging, though it leaves unresolved how institutions might adapt through law or trial-and-error before full redundancy sets in.
Many users praised essays on superintelligent AI disempowering even wealthy capital owners, while others dismissed claims of a resulting permanent underclass as victim mentality or repression porn.
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I really hate the "permanent underclass" meme. It basically treats capital ownership as the only relevant variable, and subtly implies that automation means law, democracy, rights, and institutions merely adjust to ratify the interests of capital owners. Feels like a weird mix of Marxian class reductionism and libertarian property fatalism.
What I find most offensive is the implicit contempt for agency and liberal democracy. It ignores that people and institutions *react* to economic developments. There's never a guaranteed happy ending of course, but that's precisely why agency matters in the first place.
Pessimists sometimes come up with an intense set of assumptions and ask you to enumerate all solutions and adaptations ex ante, but that's akin to asking for knowledge that does not exist yet, the stuff distributed trial-and-error will lead to. The future social equilibrium is endogenous!
I wrote about how accumulating capital won't save you from being disempowered by superintelligent AI.

https://borretti.me/article/no-one-escapes-the-permanent-underclass

@tartsomi I don't know what the next step is. Probably involves some kind of political organizing.

@DeskDuncan I'm doing my part brother https://borretti.me/fiction/eog581

@jshobrook It doesn't matter. Any move by capital to acquire sovereign power will be be swiftly and fatally stopped by the state. Governments can be incompetent about everything *except* this.

@Noahpinion This piece doesn’t argue that humans are going to be poor.

@zetalyrae the fallacy inherent within this absurd fantasy is the fact that corporations and money don't run the world. all of this pro and anti AI slop is very marxist at its core

@holo197510 Corporations don't run the world.

@zetalyrae This nightmare just isn’t coherent. If all production gets replaced by machines, does all consumption get replaced by them too?

@zetalyrae so why exactly would the people that do allow them to do something as destabilizing as turning the entire country into pissed off poorcels with nothing to lose and 400+++ million firearms on hand

@zetalyrae there is no planning for the case you describe. we are trying to escape permanent underclass in the world where dario controls the superhuman turbonerd with no desires of its own

@zetalyrae I appreciate the message, but i wonder what the next step should be for the average person: suicide? drugs? lobotomy? the future has already shattered my identity, and i think it will do the same to the people i love and those i dont even know. I dont want to keep watching

>They think planet-spanning minds will not only respect the property rights of primates
We already have planet-spanning minds respecting the property rights of primates.
When you say the state monopolizes all production, you're making an industrial organization argument. You can't just stipulate that "alignment" solves the coordination problems that property rights solve.
Any rational agent will face a make/buy tradeoff. Why is it the case that suddenly AI only makes?

@zetalyrae a new fernando post day is always a good day

@zetalyrae ... Then we will be politically crushed by the machine. I dont see any way out other than to keep watching or not watching at all. Phew... Putting that aside, thankyou for speaking out loud and clear, your honesty is truly appreciated

@holo197510 @zetalyrae I think you have a misconception of what being the underclass will be like. You'll have your guns, your double fridge with CARTONS of eggs in suburban house, your Superbowl and your F150. All that while becoming completely irrelevant politically and economically.

@zetalyrae yeah well im becoming hippie and catching the moment. touching grass and smiling to the ceiling. minimising my desires. whats dario gonna do about this

@zetalyrae Alignment doesn’t ensure the AI will want us around, but I fail to see why it wouldn’t want us around. We’re entertaining. It might just move to Mars so it can build things without interference while watching the sitcom.

@zetalyrae And/Or we split off into various Heavens which have barriers and different rules so you can work if you want to and that can have real results etc.
Favourite fictional utopia: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/to9cSGgD6nALByKjg/my-favorite-depiction-of-utopia