Hugging Face co-founder Clément Delangue argues that concentration of power and wealth is the primary risk facing AI
Beff agreed with the claim, while Joscha Bach disagreed.
Many users backed the Hugging Face CEO's warning on AI power concentration by praising open source for transparency and provenance, while others dismissed AI as an expensive boondoggle or attacked figures with hostile language.
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The fight continues.
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@Plinz Most of the other risks are, in my view, either much less likely, or made more likely and more damaging by extreme concentration of power, capabilities and wealth
@ClementDelangue I hate to tell you but there are even bigger risks than someone having a better AI model than you
@ClementDelangue I hate to tell you but there are even bigger risks than someone having a better AI model than you
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@ClementDelangue "The only safe models are the ones that make us tons of money and put everyone else out of work" is quite the message to rally behind...
This is not one that we can let go quietly.
@ClementDelangue Yes.
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@ClementDelangue open source should win
@ClementDelangue Yep
Apropos the Fable/Mythos release, but the trend towards closing off models in the name off safety/security is terrible and we should fight it
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@carlkolon @ClementDelangue What makes you feel AI causes extinction. What is the realistic basis for this? Other than fiction?
Meanwhile extreme concentration of power is already happening, and happened with Google’s monopoly on search.
@ClementDelangue Couldn't agree more. AI is built on the collective wisdom of humanity over millennia—it belongs to all of us. Any move to privatize AI is purely selfish and narrow-minded, and it’s a direct threat to social order and fairness.
@ClementDelangue the conviction is right but "open source" has become the thing everyone agrees on while disagreeing about everything underneath it - model weights without compute access, data provenance, or governance is a flag without a country
@ClementDelangue @grok how
I’d love to see Hugging Face add a clause requiring that any use of its datasets as well as any dataset uploaded to its platform must be subject to a mandatory reciprocal open research license, regardless of the company involved. This is probably the only real way to stop these players from undermining open research and the community.
@ClementDelangue let's get the boys together and finally train that 10T we have always been talking about
@ClementDelangue the polymarket board showing anthropic at 91% would like a word
real!!
Most problems, because of the unfortunate way monopolies work, is that you need like a few solutions for there to be that market that efficiently starts pricing the products close to how much they actually cost.
So we can't just solve aging once at one company. As it will be price gouged.
We need many companies to all solve aging in biology. So it can be an affordable solution for everyone
That includes giving the startups a chance, which Anthropic is not doing right now.
@ClementDelangue i need gpus/funding to train a text autoencoder on all accepted papers in existence from top ml conferences.
outcome: new opensource non-LLM genAI.
fund this.
@ClementDelangue The tech is exciting. The concentration of power around it is the part that keeps me thinking🤔
@ClementDelangue Do you think large-scale distributed training and inference projects will gain traction?
@ClementDelangue That’s definitely a big risk but I don’t think it’s the biggest. What about extinction?