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    A post challenges the case for tackling AI risk from inside a lab

    Anyone who believes AI poses a nonzero existential risk should work openly and publish and document everything, the author argues.

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    One post rejects the argument that working at an AI lab is a better way to reduce risks “from the inside.” It argues that people who believe AI poses any existential risk should work in the open, publishing and documenting everything.

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    9 Sources, first seen 19d ago

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    Based on 95 sentiment-bearing replies from 78 accounts across 4 conversations.

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    163 reposts

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    Positive33.3%66.7%Negative

    Based on 95 sentiment-bearing replies from 78 accounts across 4 conversations.

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    9 Sources

    @julien_c> I work at a [AI] lab because I think that I can do better at reducing risks from the inside I'm sorry but this is insane. If you do believe in non-null existential risk, you should be working in the open, publishing and documenting everything and anything.
    @martin_casadoRT @julien_c: > I work at a [AI] lab because I think that I can do better at reducing risks from the inside I'm sorry but this is insane.…
    @GaryMarcusalternative theory: people who are good at training LLMs aren’t necessarily equally competent at calculating expected value.
    @ylecunRT @julien_c: > I work at a [AI] lab because I think that I can do better at reducing risks from the inside I'm sorry but this is insane.…
    @michael_nielsenRT @stuartbuck1: I cannot imagine the cognitive dissonance it would take to keep working in an industry if I sincerely thought the expected…
    @AltimorNot meant as a dunk: I genuinely wonder what happens in the brain of someone who says "I'd rather die from a US model?" Is it that they don't actually believe in the dangers? That even if they can conceive of them intellectually, they've not viscerally grasped them yet? Or they just weigh "sounds cool, will get me likes" more than "is good for the world?" They seem to act like this is a Marvel movie. Makes me want to grab them and yell: this is real life! 12,000 years of human civilization! Think for 5min about what's at stake and the suggestions you're making this moment!
    @ZackKormanIf I thought rogue agents might cause mass extinction I’d probably monitor them at least, but sure it’s the rest of us who aren’t taking the risks seriously
    @tszzlI feel so loved when I talk to a Real Safetyist. they beseech me to quit the lab as though they are trying to save my immortal soul
    @BlackHC@tszzl Repent or burn in the hellfire of Roko’s basilisk oh wait

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    @julien_c> I work at a [AI] lab because I think that I can do better at reducing risks from the inside I'm sorry but this is insane. If you do believe in non-null existential risk, you should be working in the open, publishing and documenting everything and anything.
    @martin_casadoRT @julien_c: > I work at a [AI] lab because I think that I can do better at reducing risks from the inside I'm sorry but this is insane.…
    @GaryMarcusalternative theory: people who are good at training LLMs aren’t necessarily equally competent at calculating expected value.
    @ylecunRT @julien_c: > I work at a [AI] lab because I think that I can do better at reducing risks from the inside I'm sorry but this is insane.…
    @michael_nielsenRT @stuartbuck1: I cannot imagine the cognitive dissonance it would take to keep working in an industry if I sincerely thought the expected…
    @AltimorNot meant as a dunk: I genuinely wonder what happens in the brain of someone who says "I'd rather die from a US model?" Is it that they don't actually believe in the dangers? That even if they can conceive of them intellectually, they've not viscerally grasped them yet? Or they just weigh "sounds cool, will get me likes" more than "is good for the world?" They seem to act like this is a Marvel movie. Makes me want to grab them and yell: this is real life! 12,000 years of human civilization! Think for 5min about what's at stake and the suggestions you're making this moment!
    @ZackKormanIf I thought rogue agents might cause mass extinction I’d probably monitor them at least, but sure it’s the rest of us who aren’t taking the risks seriously
    @tszzlI feel so loved when I talk to a Real Safetyist. they beseech me to quit the lab as though they are trying to save my immortal soul
    @BlackHC@tszzl Repent or burn in the hellfire of Roko’s basilisk oh wait