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    Randomized training spans may improve full-sequence loss faster in a toy test

    A user says varying power-of-two spans from 128 to 512 for 20% of samples showed apparent gains.

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    A user argues that longer sequences improve future-token prediction on average by providing more conditional information, while in-context learning skews improvements toward later tokens. In a toy baseline, they say randomizing power-of-two spans from 128 to 512 for 20% of samples seemed to improve full-sequence loss faster, despite less total information being available.

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    kalomaze@kalomazeit has to do with conditional uncertainty and information asymmetry, fundamentally - NLL of future tokens improves on average as a function of seqlen (using more *conditional information*) - ICL absorbs the gradients of conditioning in a way skewed towards late tok improvement2h

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    kalomaze@kalomazeit has to do with conditional uncertainty and information asymmetry, fundamentally - NLL of future tokens improves on average as a function of seqlen (using more *conditional information*) - ICL absorbs the gradients of conditioning in a way skewed towards late tok improvement2h
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