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    Views on AI Safety For-Profit Feasibility

    Marius Hobbhahn shares two perspectives on building for-profit AI safety businesses.

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    Marius HobbhahnMH
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    Marius Hobbhahn posted two perspectives on AI safety for-profit models. One view holds that externalities cannot be internalized so companies lack incentives to pay for safety. The other holds that safety blocks core business functions and companies cannot externalize all related costs. Chris Painter replied that he basically agrees and sees distinct lanes for organizations that help companies implement safety versus those that inform the public and governments whether the work suffices. Michael Nielsen added that both dynamics already occur in many industries and seem present in AI.

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      Chris Painter@ChrisPainterYup7 weeks ago

      I basically agree with this. I think there are distinct lanes for orgs that “help companies get the job done” on safety, and orgs that help inform the public and governments on “whether the job has been done well enough”, and both need to exist.…

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      Matthew Kenney@baykenney7 weeks ago

      @MariusHobbhahn I agree. Where the benefits of grant-subsidized safety work are primarily captured by individual frontier labs (eg cyber incidents) we should def reconsider the arrangement. imho there’s plenty of grey area but as it stands we give away a lot of free labor.

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      Ankh☥@0xAnkh7 weeks ago

      @MariusHobbhahn if safety is stopping billion dollar products from shipping, someone is getting paid to solve it.

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      Joao Janini@janini_joao7 weeks ago

      @MariusHobbhahn Yeah I agree https://x.com/janini_joao/status/2089922130360082891?s=46

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    MHMarius Hobbhahn@MariusHobbhahn7:09 AM · Aug 20, 2026
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    imo there are broadly two views on the feasibility of AI safety for-profit models 1. You cannot internalize the externalities, so no incentives to pay for safety. In that world, hard to make the business work. 2. Safety is a core business blocker and you cannot externalize…

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