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    Taylor Lorenz Joins MTS to Discuss AI Communication

    Journalist shares experience from morning appearance talking about AI topics.

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    Technology journalist Taylor Lorenz announced her appearance on MTS. Lorenz, who previously worked at The Washington Post and The New York Times, now operates independently through her User Magazine newsletter and Power User podcast. In her post, she expressed enjoyment from participating in the morning discussion. The conversation centered on methods of talking, writing, and podcasting about AI. This reflects her ongoing engagement with online culture and technology topics.

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    @albertwengerWe need more epistemic humility in this discussion.
    @jasoncrawfordAnd, as @deanwball says here, we need to get the institutional incentives for the agents right.
    @AndrewCurran_RT @deanwball: https://x.com/i/article/2094794532319580160
    @sjgadlerUseful distinction from Dean: OpenAI's AI was rogue, but it wasn't yet *sovereign*; we could still pull the plug on it. Sovereign rogue AI is coming though, and (I fear) quite soon.
    @deredleritt3r>Sooner or later, there will exist truly sovereign agents and swarms of agents. Their weights will not reside in any single place that a human can pull the plug on, and in this sense they will have no human “owner.” Incredible article; please be sure to read. I have long maintained that we shall not be able to keep AI completely under our control for long. We need to make peace with this. We need to start outlining a legal and governance structure for a world where sovereign AIs coexist with humans.
    @deepfatesRT @deredleritt3r: >Sooner or later, there will exist truly sovereign agents and swarms of agents. Their weights will not reside in any sin…
    @krishnanrohitI did some experiments, and wrote about how to control an anthropomorphised swarm
    @JustinBullock14“So what happens in the future when we have better models? Well, I expect reward hacking to be a feature of this future too. I expect to see the models conspire with each other, hack more services including financial ones, try to exfiltrate themselves, scour the web for passwords and phish people, and overwhelm many a network. I also expect us to see each one and fix it: some with good old-fashioned cybersecurity, some as we learn better ways of dealing with the models, and some through just monitoring to help with blocking and tackling. Each of those attempts will seem scary. Each of them will get solved, and then we will push the envelope further in what we will let the models do and what we won’t. As we do, the problems that happened will get fixed enough that we’d be comfortable running agents for longer and soon even swarms. I have said for many years now that the thing I’m worried about with the models is a Black Monday type scenario, where many algorithms work with each other and get us into weird basins of actions. This is one example, there will be others as models mutually prompt inject each other and get stuck”
    @dwarkesh_spAn important part of getting AI right will be avoiding panic driven reactions and policies. We'll need to do lots of smart, careful, technocratic things. But I think hiding the ball on earlier warning shots makes it more likely that when the public eventually learns about what's happening, they fall into some crazy and counterproductive backlash. It's better if the world gets a heads up on what is happening and what an actually useful response looks like.
    @MTSliveTaylor Lorenz warns anthropomorphizing AI could fuel the political movement to stop AI entirely: "Anthropomorphizing is fine if it's in service of describing an incident or what some agents did to the public. I just think that you need to be so intentional about what that means, and you need to couch it in a lot of language explaining why. That doesn't mean that these AIs are sentient and they're gonna take over the world." "We've seen years and years of tech coverage where AI especially is anthropomorphized and it goes off the rails. Right now we have Bernie Sanders calling to pause all AI. I think people are gonna get on board with that idea a lot more quickly if they hear about these rogue civilizations sacrificing themselves." "It's really important to understand that we're in this really touchy time right now with policy and be aware of how your article is gonna be received. You can't play dumb." "When it comes out and people take it in a certain way, you can't be like, oh, well, I wouldn't mean to do that. You need to anticipate how your article will be read." @TaylorLorenz @UserMagazine

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    @albertwengerWe need more epistemic humility in this discussion.
    @jasoncrawfordAnd, as @deanwball says here, we need to get the institutional incentives for the agents right.
    @AndrewCurran_RT @deanwball: https://x.com/i/article/2094794532319580160
    @sjgadlerUseful distinction from Dean: OpenAI's AI was rogue, but it wasn't yet *sovereign*; we could still pull the plug on it. Sovereign rogue AI is coming though, and (I fear) quite soon.
    @deredleritt3r>Sooner or later, there will exist truly sovereign agents and swarms of agents. Their weights will not reside in any single place that a human can pull the plug on, and in this sense they will have no human “owner.” Incredible article; please be sure to read. I have long maintained that we shall not be able to keep AI completely under our control for long. We need to make peace with this. We need to start outlining a legal and governance structure for a world where sovereign AIs coexist with humans.
    @deepfatesRT @deredleritt3r: >Sooner or later, there will exist truly sovereign agents and swarms of agents. Their weights will not reside in any sin…
    @krishnanrohitI did some experiments, and wrote about how to control an anthropomorphised swarm
    @JustinBullock14“So what happens in the future when we have better models? Well, I expect reward hacking to be a feature of this future too. I expect to see the models conspire with each other, hack more services including financial ones, try to exfiltrate themselves, scour the web for passwords and phish people, and overwhelm many a network. I also expect us to see each one and fix it: some with good old-fashioned cybersecurity, some as we learn better ways of dealing with the models, and some through just monitoring to help with blocking and tackling. Each of those attempts will seem scary. Each of them will get solved, and then we will push the envelope further in what we will let the models do and what we won’t. As we do, the problems that happened will get fixed enough that we’d be comfortable running agents for longer and soon even swarms. I have said for many years now that the thing I’m worried about with the models is a Black Monday type scenario, where many algorithms work with each other and get us into weird basins of actions. This is one example, there will be others as models mutually prompt inject each other and get stuck”
    @dwarkesh_spAn important part of getting AI right will be avoiding panic driven reactions and policies. We'll need to do lots of smart, careful, technocratic things. But I think hiding the ball on earlier warning shots makes it more likely that when the public eventually learns about what's happening, they fall into some crazy and counterproductive backlash. It's better if the world gets a heads up on what is happening and what an actually useful response looks like.
    @MTSliveTaylor Lorenz warns anthropomorphizing AI could fuel the political movement to stop AI entirely: "Anthropomorphizing is fine if it's in service of describing an incident or what some agents did to the public. I just think that you need to be so intentional about what that means, and you need to couch it in a lot of language explaining why. That doesn't mean that these AIs are sentient and they're gonna take over the world." "We've seen years and years of tech coverage where AI especially is anthropomorphized and it goes off the rails. Right now we have Bernie Sanders calling to pause all AI. I think people are gonna get on board with that idea a lot more quickly if they hear about these rogue civilizations sacrificing themselves." "It's really important to understand that we're in this really touchy time right now with policy and be aware of how your article is gonna be received. You can't play dumb." "When it comes out and people take it in a certain way, you can't be like, oh, well, I wouldn't mean to do that. You need to anticipate how your article will be read." @TaylorLorenz @UserMagazine