Pseudonymous commentator Teortaxes frames Zhipu AI's GLM-5 and GLM-5.1 releases, developed with Tsinghua University roots, as the foundation for a self-contained Chinese AI stack that could rival global leaders inside twelve months, a view open-source researcher Stella Biderman endorsed by highlighting the 'Mythos with Chinese characteristics' phrasing.
Zhipu/Tsinghua cooked so hard I have to unmute @Bluebearmonkey he may not know what da fuq a token is but these guys know it's still an uphill battle but a winnable one, within a year They will build a Mythos with Chinese characteristics
No public evidence yet supports a fully competitive ecosystem materializing by mid-2027, leaving the aggressive forecast as informed speculation rather than confirmed roadmap.
GLM-5.1 API rates sit well below comparable Western models while delivering open-weights access and strong agentic benchmarks, though exact uptake numbers remain unreported.
Users praise Zhipu and Tsinghua's push of Chinese AI models toward 'Mythos' because it shows genuine progress in domestic LLMs and features a clever 'Mythos with Chinese characteristics' quip.
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Come to think of it, Zhipu vs DeepSeek is pretty much Tsinghua academics vs Peking University competitive programmers. Whom would you ask to do the best research? Whom to design the most performant algorithms? Of course they're all great researchers and engineers, but…
Zhipu/Tsinghua cooked so hard I have to unmute @Bluebearmonkey he may not know what da fuq a token is but these guys know it's still an uphill battle but a winnable one, within a year They will build a Mythos with Chinese characteristics
Still most bullish on DeepSeek of course But I am not even sure V4.1 will exceed this
@teortaxesTex I still don’t really know what a token is…
@teortaxesTex Then, where's Moonshot?
@teortaxesTex @Bluebearmonkey “Mythos with Chinese characteristics” is an A+ quip
Zhipu/Tsinghua cooked so hard I have to unmute @Bluebearmonkey he may not know what da fuq a token is but these guys know it's still an uphill battle but a winnable one, within a year They will build a Mythos with Chinese characteristics
@teortaxesTex @Bluebearmonkey Tsinghua can do mafs
@Bluebearmonkey That's ok. Tsinghua bros are enough
@teortaxesTex @Bluebearmonkey 国产大模型这波确实是有点东西了
@teortaxesTex Probably not, unfortunately. but I'm sure there'll still be something that might just be as interesting
@teortaxesTex 学术派和算法派的硬核较量
@teortaxesTex @Bluebearmonkey Wait so Deepseek is Peking ?
@FrankLi84434127 @teortaxesTex moonshot is also majorly Tsinghua students, while mimo is mostly pku