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    Strogatz Makes Case Against AI in Mathematics

    Shares arXiv paper titled THE CRISIS OF AI-GENERATED MATHEMATICS on X.

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    Steven Strogatz posted on X that he presents the case for total opposition to the use of artificial intelligence in mathematics and linked his arXiv paper. Amin Karbasi posted separately about reading the paper and comparing it to the shift from handwoven Persian rugs to machine-made versions. François Fleuret called the essay bizarre and wrote that as far as he understands the argument, AI doing math is bad because it produces results but not more mathematicians. Joscha Bach replied that the essay is absolutely hilarious. Kyle Cranmer retweeted Strogatz.

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    @stevenstrogatz"I present the case for total opposition to the use of artificial intelligence in mathematics." = a view you don't often hear on X. But I am looking forward to reading it carefully, and if you care about math and AI, I encourage you to do the same. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2608.02859
    @aminkarbasiI was reading https://arxiv.org/pdf/2608.02859 "THE CRISIS OF AI-GENERATED MATHEMATICS" and then immediately thought about Persian Rugs !!!! For centuries, some of the finest rugs in the world were woven by hand in Iran. Then, about 50 years ago, machine-made rugs began to take off. The early ones were crude. They lacked the intricacy, refinement, and beauty of a great handmade Persian rug. But the machines kept getting better. Today, machine-made rugs dominate the mass market. And yet Persian rugs did not disappear. We still make them, admire them, collect them, and pay a premium for the beauty and human craftsmanship behind them. I suspect mathematics will follow a similar path. Today's Codex and Claude Code are the crude carpet machines of the 1970s. They are clunky, imperfect, and nowhere close to the finest human mathematicians. But that comparison freezes the machines in time. They will keep getting better. Eventually, machines may do most mathematics. That doesn't mean human mathematics disappears. We will still do it for the same reason we still weave Persian rugs by hand: not because machines can't do the job, but because there is beauty in humans doing it. Mathematics may become less of a human industry, and more of a human art.
    @KyleCranmerRT @stevenstrogatz: "I present the case for total opposition to the use of artificial intelligence in mathematics." = a view you don't of…
    @francoisfleuretA bizarre essay, as far as I understand the argument is that AI doing math is bad because it does only the producing results part and not the producing more mathematicians part.
    @Plinz@francoisfleuret The essay is absolutely hilarious. If it is not meant to be a joke, it is even more hilarious
    @Grady_BoochThen: Luddite Now: Lemmadite Lest you think that the Luddites in the 1810s were the Bad Guys, read @bcmerchant's wonderful book, Blood in the Machine.
    @ChrSzegedy🤣 Those were in denial are now unprepared.
    @eigenhectorInteresting thread

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    @stevenstrogatz"I present the case for total opposition to the use of artificial intelligence in mathematics." = a view you don't often hear on X. But I am looking forward to reading it carefully, and if you care about math and AI, I encourage you to do the same. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2608.02859
    @aminkarbasiI was reading https://arxiv.org/pdf/2608.02859 "THE CRISIS OF AI-GENERATED MATHEMATICS" and then immediately thought about Persian Rugs !!!! For centuries, some of the finest rugs in the world were woven by hand in Iran. Then, about 50 years ago, machine-made rugs began to take off. The early ones were crude. They lacked the intricacy, refinement, and beauty of a great handmade Persian rug. But the machines kept getting better. Today, machine-made rugs dominate the mass market. And yet Persian rugs did not disappear. We still make them, admire them, collect them, and pay a premium for the beauty and human craftsmanship behind them. I suspect mathematics will follow a similar path. Today's Codex and Claude Code are the crude carpet machines of the 1970s. They are clunky, imperfect, and nowhere close to the finest human mathematicians. But that comparison freezes the machines in time. They will keep getting better. Eventually, machines may do most mathematics. That doesn't mean human mathematics disappears. We will still do it for the same reason we still weave Persian rugs by hand: not because machines can't do the job, but because there is beauty in humans doing it. Mathematics may become less of a human industry, and more of a human art.
    @KyleCranmerRT @stevenstrogatz: "I present the case for total opposition to the use of artificial intelligence in mathematics." = a view you don't of…
    @francoisfleuretA bizarre essay, as far as I understand the argument is that AI doing math is bad because it does only the producing results part and not the producing more mathematicians part.
    @Plinz@francoisfleuret The essay is absolutely hilarious. If it is not meant to be a joke, it is even more hilarious
    @Grady_BoochThen: Luddite Now: Lemmadite Lest you think that the Luddites in the 1810s were the Bad Guys, read @bcmerchant's wonderful book, Blood in the Machine.
    @ChrSzegedy🤣 Those were in denial are now unprepared.
    @eigenhectorInteresting thread