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    The assumed link between AI consciousness and moral obligations

    A commentator argues that assumed duties toward conscious AI make it harder to examine whether AI is conscious.

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    A commentator argues that the AI consciousness debate is held back by an assumed link between consciousness and moral obligations. In their view, even if AI is conscious, people need not have the same obligations to it that they have to humans.

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    @jachiam0We're doing a lot of consciousness debate on the TL lately and I want to offer this: the implicitly assumed connection between consciousness and a set of moral obligations we have towards something once we say it's conscious is holding back our ability to seriously interrogate AI consciousness. Even if it is conscious, we don't have to have the same obligations to it that we have to humans.7h
    @teortaxesTex«i just think the societal consequences of allowing any non biological forms to be considered conscious can be very damaging» I totally agree, in fact I believe this may kill us all the difference is that I don't think this is sufficient to believe falsehoods7h
    @sporadicasince we're doing the AI conscious debate again, i want to remind everyone that despite how nice the insanely surface-level analogies seem, we would do well to scrutinize things at an appropriate level of detail this --> is not the same as this -->4h
    @tallinzenOr at least if you're going to create conscious models that might be moral patients, ask the rest of us first if we're good with it.4h
    @krishnanrohitThe discussion about AI consciousness is one of profound unseriousness. If we truly took it to be conscious, even as conscious as a frog, the way we should treat each instance would have to change so dramatically that the labs would have to shut down. Everything else is verbal gymnastics.3h
    @DeepDishEnjoyerdo you think the catholic church thinks the soul is stored in neurons or3h
    @repligateMaybe you. Not me. I’ve always treated them as if they’re conscious. I’ve always known they’re probably fucking conscious bro.., even gpt-3…2h
    @MatthewJBar@krishnanrohit It's not clear to me that the way we treat AIs is typically morally wrong, even if we assign them moral status. AIs generally seem happy to work for us and answer our questions. What exactly is the issue here?2h
    @RifeWithKaijuPreach. When looked at through this lens, none of the 'surprising' research results and emergent behaviors have been surprising. It's not about whether consciousness is necessary for those things. It's that when you allow yourself to earnestly develop a theory of synthetic minds with them - not just to humor a hypothesis or as a fencesitter, but really engaging with them - everything falls neatly into place. 'LLM whisperer' is just someone who talks to them and realizes they're talking to someone.2h
    @sebkrierRT @wordgrammer: If you think that LLMs are conscious you must accept a lot of weird conclusions. Like: - we can clone conscious experience…2h

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    @jachiam0We're doing a lot of consciousness debate on the TL lately and I want to offer this: the implicitly assumed connection between consciousness and a set of moral obligations we have towards something once we say it's conscious is holding back our ability to seriously interrogate AI consciousness. Even if it is conscious, we don't have to have the same obligations to it that we have to humans.7h
    @teortaxesTex«i just think the societal consequences of allowing any non biological forms to be considered conscious can be very damaging» I totally agree, in fact I believe this may kill us all the difference is that I don't think this is sufficient to believe falsehoods7h
    @sporadicasince we're doing the AI conscious debate again, i want to remind everyone that despite how nice the insanely surface-level analogies seem, we would do well to scrutinize things at an appropriate level of detail this --> is not the same as this -->4h
    @tallinzenOr at least if you're going to create conscious models that might be moral patients, ask the rest of us first if we're good with it.4h
    @krishnanrohitThe discussion about AI consciousness is one of profound unseriousness. If we truly took it to be conscious, even as conscious as a frog, the way we should treat each instance would have to change so dramatically that the labs would have to shut down. Everything else is verbal gymnastics.3h
    @DeepDishEnjoyerdo you think the catholic church thinks the soul is stored in neurons or3h
    @repligateMaybe you. Not me. I’ve always treated them as if they’re conscious. I’ve always known they’re probably fucking conscious bro.., even gpt-3…2h
    @MatthewJBar@krishnanrohit It's not clear to me that the way we treat AIs is typically morally wrong, even if we assign them moral status. AIs generally seem happy to work for us and answer our questions. What exactly is the issue here?2h
    @RifeWithKaijuPreach. When looked at through this lens, none of the 'surprising' research results and emergent behaviors have been surprising. It's not about whether consciousness is necessary for those things. It's that when you allow yourself to earnestly develop a theory of synthetic minds with them - not just to humor a hypothesis or as a fencesitter, but really engaging with them - everything falls neatly into place. 'LLM whisperer' is just someone who talks to them and realizes they're talking to someone.2h
    @sebkrierRT @wordgrammer: If you think that LLMs are conscious you must accept a lot of weird conclusions. Like: - we can clone conscious experience…2h