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    OpenAI Posts Blog Rebutting Apple's Lawsuit and AI Claims

    The post shares internal messages and corrects Apple's claims about contacting OpenAI.

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    OpenAI published a blog post titled Apple is getting this wrong that addresses a lawsuit Apple filed last month. The suit accuses OpenAI and former Apple employees of stealing hardware trade secrets. OpenAI calls the suit careless, aggressive and oddly personal while sharing internal messages and emails. It states Apple admitted emailing the wrong person after confusing two Asian last names. Observers including Alex Heath and Robert Scoble shared the post on X, noting the corrections to Apple's claims.

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    21 Sources

    @OpenAINewsroomApple is getting this wrong. https://openai.com/index/apple-is-getting-this-wrong/
    @ScobleizerAs much as I like Apple this doesn't make it look good. At least here in the cheap seats.
    @AndrewMayne👀
    @paularamblesme after being stuck waiting for app review for three days
    @BrianRoemmeleOpenAI’s latest blog is peak corporate gaslighting dressed up as a mic-drop. - Their Newsroom post and “Apple is getting this wrong” piece try to paint Apple’s trade-secrets lawsuit as a clumsy, overreaching tantrum. OpenAI claims Apple mixed up Asian last names, emailed the wrong lawyer, invented a phone call that never happened, and then waited five months to sue. They wave around iMessages showing Apple staff still asking Chang Liu for help after he left, and insist residual access was Apple’s systems failure, not theft. Tang Tan? Just a 24-year Apple legend who “always made clear” OpenAI doesn’t want other companies’ secrets. Case closed, right? Umm no. This is OpenAI playing the wounded innocent while standing on a mountain of poached talent and suspiciously convenient “oops” access. Apple’s lawsuit alleges OpenAI systematically encouraged departing Apple engineers to bring confidential files, prototypes, supplier lists, and even actual physical parts to interviews for “show and tell.” Tang Tan is accused of coaching recruits on how to dodge Apple’s security and using internal Apple code names to pry more intel. Chang Liu allegedly kept his Apple laptop, found a residual-access bug, downloaded dozens of unreleased hardware docs, and texted a former colleague: “LOL, I found out I can access the [network storage], so funny.” OpenAI’s defense? “Apple’s fault for not locking the digital door tighter.” That’s not a defense. That’s a confession with extra steps. The humor and irony are brutal if you stop buying OpenAI’s spin • The company that lectures the world about safety, alignment, and “empowering humanity” is now arguing that celebrating unauthorized access with “LOL… so funny” is somehow Apple’s security failure. The AI overlords can’t even keep a straight face while their own engineer jokes about the exploit. • OpenAI has vacuumed up 400+ former Apple employees (including the exact people who designed the iPhone and Apple Watch) and is racing to build competing consumer hardware. Then they act shocked when Apple notices institutional knowledge and residual files walked out the door. Talent wars are one thing. Treating trade secrets like free samples is another. • Publishing Apple’s internal messages and emails as “proof” of Apple’s incompetence while claiming “we have no interest in other companies’ trade secrets” is peak irony. You’re literally hosting the receipts of the access you’re denying. Bold strategy. OpenAI wants you to laugh at Apple’s email mix-up and five-month silence. Fine. But the real joke is a company built on “move fast and break things” suddenly discovering the moral high ground the moment the company whose talent and knowledge they’re mining decides to sue. This isn’t Apple getting it wrong. It is OpenAI getting caught with its hand in the hardware cookie jar and then writing a blog post about how the jar was left unlocked.
    @alexeheathHere OpenAI says that Apple made stuff up
    @pitdesiApple claimed OpenAI was ignoring them and then sued over stolen trade secrets. Turns out Apple’s counsel sent the notice to the wrong email after mixing up 2 Asian last names🤦🏽‍♂️! Love airing of dirty laundry direct to the public. Doubt Apple will respond the same way.
    @suchenzangkinda crazy how much apple got wrong, including all the interview loops and interview tech talks where Everything Always Gets Leaked! 100% pristine judgement from 100% of all the apple folks if they were all 100% hired without any leaks - that's showing infinitely more integrity than all the other lab trades, that's for sure!
    @kimmonismusAwkward: Apple sued OpenAI for stealing hardware secrets. OpenAI has now published messages suggesting Apple itself kept using a former engineer after he left. The messages appear to show Apple employees asking Chang Liu to locate internal files, explain product decisions and help with technical questions weeks after his departure. One Apple employee wrote: “Of course, I could ask several folks, but you are the best. Even if you don’t work here anymore.” OpenAI also says Apple falsely claimed it had contacted the company and received no response. The emails show Apple’s outside lawyer mistakenly thanked OpenAI’s General Counsel for a phone call that never happened, then apologized. However: None of this disproves Apple’s broader trade-secret allegations. But Apple now has to explain its own offboarding failures, and why its employees continued requesting confidential help from someone it accuses of stealing confidential information.
    @theoThis is pretty damming on Apple’s behalf

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    @OpenAINewsroomApple is getting this wrong. https://openai.com/index/apple-is-getting-this-wrong/
    @ScobleizerAs much as I like Apple this doesn't make it look good. At least here in the cheap seats.
    @AndrewMayne👀
    @paularamblesme after being stuck waiting for app review for three days
    @BrianRoemmeleOpenAI’s latest blog is peak corporate gaslighting dressed up as a mic-drop. - Their Newsroom post and “Apple is getting this wrong” piece try to paint Apple’s trade-secrets lawsuit as a clumsy, overreaching tantrum. OpenAI claims Apple mixed up Asian last names, emailed the wrong lawyer, invented a phone call that never happened, and then waited five months to sue. They wave around iMessages showing Apple staff still asking Chang Liu for help after he left, and insist residual access was Apple’s systems failure, not theft. Tang Tan? Just a 24-year Apple legend who “always made clear” OpenAI doesn’t want other companies’ secrets. Case closed, right? Umm no. This is OpenAI playing the wounded innocent while standing on a mountain of poached talent and suspiciously convenient “oops” access. Apple’s lawsuit alleges OpenAI systematically encouraged departing Apple engineers to bring confidential files, prototypes, supplier lists, and even actual physical parts to interviews for “show and tell.” Tang Tan is accused of coaching recruits on how to dodge Apple’s security and using internal Apple code names to pry more intel. Chang Liu allegedly kept his Apple laptop, found a residual-access bug, downloaded dozens of unreleased hardware docs, and texted a former colleague: “LOL, I found out I can access the [network storage], so funny.” OpenAI’s defense? “Apple’s fault for not locking the digital door tighter.” That’s not a defense. That’s a confession with extra steps. The humor and irony are brutal if you stop buying OpenAI’s spin • The company that lectures the world about safety, alignment, and “empowering humanity” is now arguing that celebrating unauthorized access with “LOL… so funny” is somehow Apple’s security failure. The AI overlords can’t even keep a straight face while their own engineer jokes about the exploit. • OpenAI has vacuumed up 400+ former Apple employees (including the exact people who designed the iPhone and Apple Watch) and is racing to build competing consumer hardware. Then they act shocked when Apple notices institutional knowledge and residual files walked out the door. Talent wars are one thing. Treating trade secrets like free samples is another. • Publishing Apple’s internal messages and emails as “proof” of Apple’s incompetence while claiming “we have no interest in other companies’ trade secrets” is peak irony. You’re literally hosting the receipts of the access you’re denying. Bold strategy. OpenAI wants you to laugh at Apple’s email mix-up and five-month silence. Fine. But the real joke is a company built on “move fast and break things” suddenly discovering the moral high ground the moment the company whose talent and knowledge they’re mining decides to sue. This isn’t Apple getting it wrong. It is OpenAI getting caught with its hand in the hardware cookie jar and then writing a blog post about how the jar was left unlocked.
    @alexeheathHere OpenAI says that Apple made stuff up
    @pitdesiApple claimed OpenAI was ignoring them and then sued over stolen trade secrets. Turns out Apple’s counsel sent the notice to the wrong email after mixing up 2 Asian last names🤦🏽‍♂️! Love airing of dirty laundry direct to the public. Doubt Apple will respond the same way.
    @suchenzangkinda crazy how much apple got wrong, including all the interview loops and interview tech talks where Everything Always Gets Leaked! 100% pristine judgement from 100% of all the apple folks if they were all 100% hired without any leaks - that's showing infinitely more integrity than all the other lab trades, that's for sure!
    @kimmonismusAwkward: Apple sued OpenAI for stealing hardware secrets. OpenAI has now published messages suggesting Apple itself kept using a former engineer after he left. The messages appear to show Apple employees asking Chang Liu to locate internal files, explain product decisions and help with technical questions weeks after his departure. One Apple employee wrote: “Of course, I could ask several folks, but you are the best. Even if you don’t work here anymore.” OpenAI also says Apple falsely claimed it had contacted the company and received no response. The emails show Apple’s outside lawyer mistakenly thanked OpenAI’s General Counsel for a phone call that never happened, then apologized. However: None of this disproves Apple’s broader trade-secret allegations. But Apple now has to explain its own offboarding failures, and why its employees continued requesting confidential help from someone it accuses of stealing confidential information.
    @theoThis is pretty damming on Apple’s behalf