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Are self-driving cars safer than human drivers?

One participant claims self-driving cars are much safer than any form of human driving. Another disputes that claim, arguing that the comparisons are unfair and limited to certain environments.

Gary MarcusGM
Ethan MollickEM
Keith RaboisKR
5 Sources, 19d ago, first seen 19d ago

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A discussion about AI reliability turns into a dispute over driving safety. One participant calls current AI agents “repeat offenders” at failing to follow instructions, contrasting them with reliable software such as spreadsheets. A reply claims self-driving cars are much safer than any form of human driving and extends that claim to other AI systems. The critic rejects the comparisons as unfair, arguing that safety in unfamiliar environments is a major reason driverless cars remain in limited deployment. The proponent counters that empirical evidence overwhelmingly shows AI-driven cars reduce fatalities.

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Keith Rabois@rabois@GaryMarcus self driving cars are much safer than any version of human driving. same is true with other AI systems.19d
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus@rabois this is just false, based on unfair comparisons/comparisons in limited environments. there are multiple reasons driverless cars remain in very limited deployment (e..g, much less 1% of world cities), and safety in unfamiliar environments is high on that list.19d
Ethan Mollick@emollickBack in July, there was a report that got a lot of attention online that Waymo was more dangerous than NYC for-hire vehicles. The analysis turned out to be wrong and the updated report finds they are much safer. Good that they updated with new data, though https://www.openplans.org/how-for-hire-autonomous-vehicles-impact-nyc19d
@jason@JasonMy guess is 25% of cities block AVs for a couple of years -- just like they blocked Airbnb and Uber A handful might block them longer, like NYC and Hawaii have blocked/limited Airbnbs -- but ultimately < 10% will be able to hold the technology back long term18d
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    Keith Rabois@rabois@GaryMarcus self driving cars are much safer than any version of human driving. same is true with other AI systems.19d
    Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus@rabois this is just false, based on unfair comparisons/comparisons in limited environments. there are multiple reasons driverless cars remain in very limited deployment (e..g, much less 1% of world cities), and safety in unfamiliar environments is high on that list.19d
    Ethan Mollick@emollickBack in July, there was a report that got a lot of attention online that Waymo was more dangerous than NYC for-hire vehicles. The analysis turned out to be wrong and the updated report finds they are much safer. Good that they updated with new data, though https://www.openplans.org/how-for-hire-autonomous-vehicles-impact-nyc19d
    @jason@JasonMy guess is 25% of cities block AVs for a couple of years -- just like they blocked Airbnb and Uber A handful might block them longer, like NYC and Hawaii have blocked/limited Airbnbs -- but ultimately < 10% will be able to hold the technology back long term18d
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