This great conversation with @ivanburazin is also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and here on YouTube (like and subscribe!):
Matt Turck@mattturckEvery agent needs its own computer: my conversation with @ivanburazin, CEO of @daytonaio, about sandboxes and the emerging agent stack. 00:00 Intro 02:13 What is an AI agent sandbox? 03:17 Security risks of running agents locally 05:17 Stateful vs. stateless hyperscalers 07:04 The history of cloud IDEs and the end of localhost 09:45 Do all AI agents need a sandbox? 12:26 Sandbox use cases: RL evals & background agents 14:10 Unpacking the emerging AI Agent Stack 16:20 The unsolved problem of agent memory and learning 19:37 Where sandboxes fit in the agent harness 21:35 OpenAI, Anthropic, and agent SDKs 23:06 Ivan's founder journey: From CodeAnywhere to Daytona 26:59 GTM strategies and building developer communities 33:48 Why customer support is your best GTM strategy 35:34 Leveraging Twitter during the AI super cycle 40:50 The technical anatomy of a sandbox 41:53 Why fast spin-up speeds maximize GPU efficiency 46:09 Firecracker, QEMU, and isolation primitives 49:58 Why sandbox snapshots and state forking matter 51:40 Why Daytona built a custom scheduler from scratch 55:24 The challenge of long-running stateful sandboxes 58:10 The build your own sandbox trap 1:01:03 Why AI agents might trigger a global CPU shortage 1:02:46 The future of the AI Agent Stack