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METR’s potential role as a de facto AI standard-setter

The user cites OpenAI turning to METR for an independent investigation of the Hugging Face incident and Anthropic inviting it in as a third party.

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TLDR

A user argues that METR is becoming a de facto standard-setting body for AI, comparing its emerging role to FINRA in finance: examining firms and defining acceptable practice without being a government regulator. They cite OpenAI's use of METR for an independent investigation and Anthropic's third-party invitation as context. The user wonders whether legislation might codify that role, while cautioning that industry self-regulation is not always the best path and that finance is not AI.

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48 Sources, first seen 26d ago

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Combined views

47.6K

48 Sources, first seen 26d ago

957 likes45 comments114 saves99 reposts

Sentiment

Positive23.8%76.2%Negative

Summary

Replies largely objected to the AI Safety camp and METR’s new authority as a regulatory power grab and unqualified doom scam, while some accounts praised earlier warnings about AI cults and urged faster development.

Based on 360 sentiment-bearing replies from 298 accounts across 11 conversations.

Sentiment

Positive23.8%76.2%Negative

Summary

Replies largely objected to the AI Safety camp and METR’s new authority as a regulatory power grab and unqualified doom scam, while some accounts praised earlier warnings about AI cults and urged faster development.

Based on 360 sentiment-bearing replies from 298 accounts across 11 conversations.

48 Sources

Ethan Mollick@emollickFor context. OpenAI turned to METR for independent investigation of the hugging face incident and Anthropic is inviting them in as a third-party. (Industry self-regulation is not always the best path forward, of course, and financial services is not AI)26d
Brian Roemmele@BrianRoemmeleOut soon at http://ReadMultiplex.com. METR was just given super access and super power over AI and its direction. You will not believe who they are. Model Evaluation and Threat Research (METR), pronounced “meter,” presents itself as an independent nonprofit dedicated to scientifically measuring whether frontier AI systems can autonomously complete long-horizon tasks that might pose catastrophic risks. In practice it has become one of the most influential unofficial regulators in the field. I will release this soon.25d
Chris Selby@art_chris@robbystarbuck @elonmusk @sama @DarioAmodei I really suggest following @BrianRoemmele on ai and all this psyop. It seems like we need to watch out for over regulations that just protect these new ai oligarchs. Here's one of many stories Brian has uncovered on this 👇25d
@timnitGebru (@dair-community.social/bsky.social)@timnitGebruThank you. But who is going to listen? Some of in the field of "AI" have been seeing this unscientific, pseudoscientific crop of people taking over and speaking up over and over again just to arrive at the most ridiculous timeline the we're seeing right now. Its unreal.25d
Beff (e/acc)@beffjezosThe EAs want to secure control over advanced AI and spread their soft power beyond a single lab where they have been mostly contained since the Sama coup.25d
火箭手Neo@fixer82601@BrianRoemmele Imagine Enron hiring ex-executives to 'independently' audit their books. Now swap 'Enron' for AI labs, and 'the books' for the future of humanity. Welcome to AI safety.25d
HealthRanger@HealthRangerWho are the METR AI control cultists? Just look at the connections...25d
Dave Spehar@MNHockeyStarBrian has basically been tweeting this stuff out for 4 yrs, way before AI was in our lives. The elite class doesn’t want us peasants to just do whatever we want to do. AI/Robots/Nano-fabrication may take all of our jobs but it will also enable freedom. Open Source is the way.25d
Jonathan Keeperman@L0m3zIt is very important you understand who is behind the AI doomer complex and what is motivating them. Extremely valuable thread here.23d
tae kim@firstadopterHere’s a thought. Let’s not empower the same group that brought us Sam Bankman-Fried “In a bombshell essay titled “We Must Pace the Frontier,” Amodei argued that leading AI firms should commit to allowing “embedded third-party evaluators” from a nonprofit called Model Evaluation and Threat Research, or METR, that would maintain “employee-like access” to oversee safety efforts and ensure advanced AI models don’t turn Terminator and wipe out humanity.” “The would-be John Connors at METR purport to be fully independent, but the group traces its roots directly back to key figures in Effective Altruism, whose Silicon Valley-based devotees once included disgraced crypto boss Sam Bankman-Fried, one of Anthropic’s biggest early investors." "The overlap between METR and Anthropic is rife with potential conflicts of interest, according to critics." "Christiano also served as one of the first five trustees of Anthropic’s Long-Term Benefit Trust." "When reached by phone, a METR official acknowledged that the nonprofit has a lot of overlap with Effective Altruism" "Since its founding, METR and its affiliates have received funding from EA kingpins like Democratic megadonor Dustin Moskovitz and Skype cofounder Jaan Tallinn — both of whom are Anthropic investors." “Saying you want to be audited by the ‘independent’ people at METR is a complete joke,” said Perry Metzger, chairman of Alliance for the Future, a Washington, DC-based AI policy group. “It’s people who are funded by your buddies. It’s completely ridiculous."22d
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    48 Sources

    Ethan Mollick@emollickFor context. OpenAI turned to METR for independent investigation of the hugging face incident and Anthropic is inviting them in as a third-party. (Industry self-regulation is not always the best path forward, of course, and financial services is not AI)26d
    Brian Roemmele@BrianRoemmeleOut soon at http://ReadMultiplex.com. METR was just given super access and super power over AI and its direction. You will not believe who they are. Model Evaluation and Threat Research (METR), pronounced “meter,” presents itself as an independent nonprofit dedicated to scientifically measuring whether frontier AI systems can autonomously complete long-horizon tasks that might pose catastrophic risks. In practice it has become one of the most influential unofficial regulators in the field. I will release this soon.25d
    Chris Selby@art_chris@robbystarbuck @elonmusk @sama @DarioAmodei I really suggest following @BrianRoemmele on ai and all this psyop. It seems like we need to watch out for over regulations that just protect these new ai oligarchs. Here's one of many stories Brian has uncovered on this 👇25d
    @timnitGebru (@dair-community.social/bsky.social)@timnitGebruThank you. But who is going to listen? Some of in the field of "AI" have been seeing this unscientific, pseudoscientific crop of people taking over and speaking up over and over again just to arrive at the most ridiculous timeline the we're seeing right now. Its unreal.25d
    Beff (e/acc)@beffjezosThe EAs want to secure control over advanced AI and spread their soft power beyond a single lab where they have been mostly contained since the Sama coup.25d
    火箭手Neo@fixer82601@BrianRoemmele Imagine Enron hiring ex-executives to 'independently' audit their books. Now swap 'Enron' for AI labs, and 'the books' for the future of humanity. Welcome to AI safety.25d
    HealthRanger@HealthRangerWho are the METR AI control cultists? Just look at the connections...25d
    Dave Spehar@MNHockeyStarBrian has basically been tweeting this stuff out for 4 yrs, way before AI was in our lives. The elite class doesn’t want us peasants to just do whatever we want to do. AI/Robots/Nano-fabrication may take all of our jobs but it will also enable freedom. Open Source is the way.25d
    Jonathan Keeperman@L0m3zIt is very important you understand who is behind the AI doomer complex and what is motivating them. Extremely valuable thread here.23d
    tae kim@firstadopterHere’s a thought. Let’s not empower the same group that brought us Sam Bankman-Fried “In a bombshell essay titled “We Must Pace the Frontier,” Amodei argued that leading AI firms should commit to allowing “embedded third-party evaluators” from a nonprofit called Model Evaluation and Threat Research, or METR, that would maintain “employee-like access” to oversee safety efforts and ensure advanced AI models don’t turn Terminator and wipe out humanity.” “The would-be John Connors at METR purport to be fully independent, but the group traces its roots directly back to key figures in Effective Altruism, whose Silicon Valley-based devotees once included disgraced crypto boss Sam Bankman-Fried, one of Anthropic’s biggest early investors." "The overlap between METR and Anthropic is rife with potential conflicts of interest, according to critics." "Christiano also served as one of the first five trustees of Anthropic’s Long-Term Benefit Trust." "When reached by phone, a METR official acknowledged that the nonprofit has a lot of overlap with Effective Altruism" "Since its founding, METR and its affiliates have received funding from EA kingpins like Democratic megadonor Dustin Moskovitz and Skype cofounder Jaan Tallinn — both of whom are Anthropic investors." “Saying you want to be audited by the ‘independent’ people at METR is a complete joke,” said Perry Metzger, chairman of Alliance for the Future, a Washington, DC-based AI policy group. “It’s people who are funded by your buddies. It’s completely ridiculous."22d
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