I bought Figma stock during the SaaSpocalypse panic. Talking to @mcolyer, Figma's director of product management for developers, made me wish I'd bought more.

He joined me on @every's AI & I to make the case for a SaaS resurgence—and to explain why chat-based tools are the wrong interface for design. We get into:

- Why running your own agents makes you more willing to pay for SaaS, not less - How Figma's MCP server allows you to approach design work from two directions: Take a live web page and reconstruct it on the Figma canvas, or hand a Figma design over to an agent so it can makes changes via pull request - The inherent limits of chat-based design, a format that isn’t equipped to generate lots of new ideas -Why review is the next bottleneck, and potential solutions for helping teams scale evaluations

Watch below!

Timestamps 0:01:03 - Introduction 0:02:15 - The SaaSpocalypse narrative has it backwards 0:05:27 - Matt’s email-agent origin story 0:13:21 - Divergent vs. convergent design thinking 0:17:39 - Figma’s MCP server 0:19:45 - Why design agents need personalization 0:22:09 - Every problem is a context problem 0:25:12 - Apple and Google as the reigning kings of context 0:28:18 - Why review is the new bottleneck