Hypers got hype but this is an embarrassingly bad piece of analysis that sets up a false dichotomy and ignores the fact that Terence Tao also signed the Leiden Declaration. 🤦‍♂️

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/over-150-mathematicians-warn-governments-100000243.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&segment_id=DY_VTO_50_Supernova&ncid=crm_19908-1475736-20260607-0--A&bt_ee=MEbzd%2FT3CK9hBFZUv6x%2BXxtzL%2B1%2B%2BKmVwclWdPE4ceWgse1VAnaUOsvcOk%2BPZovJ&bt_ts=1780835533932

@kimmonismus I don't think this skeptics vs optimists split is a good summary of the current situation. In fact, Terrence Tao is one of the signatories of the Declaration:

@patrickDurusau @nasqret The memetics of this matters. Mathematicians didn’t seem to care in any critical quantity until terry tao started speaking out. The genius of an individual is palpable, but there is also the genius of 10,000 mathematicians.

In my experience there’s a lot of heads in the sand.

@kimmonismus so misleading you should issue a correction:

update: the person who posted the original has (rare!) acknowledged the error and delete the original post.

@kimmonismus @mrdj1968 All doubts are because of money and status.

Period.

“Scientists” that would rather lie to keep their status are not scientists. They are corrupted fools who would rather keep everyone else down for their comfort.

Tao, Hinton… Dawkins… those are real scientists. •

@kimmonismus @antonpme please. i don’t think Tao needs to worry about that.

@GaryMarcus you are right, i delete the post. I didnt check it correctly. My bad, i appologize

@nasqret So play it, don't sign petitions and talk about it. Those will be small comfort after others have made critical decisions. Assert yourselves! Cold call projects and AI researchers, learn their terminology.

@antonpme And maybe even worried about their profession and an artificial intelligence becoming more intelligent than they are

@kimmonismus i think the article is just bad framing, as terrence tao endorsed the declaration that is being discussed there.

@kimmonismus being skeptical one year ago was understandable, but today? weird

specially given all the advancements reached thanks to AI in many industries including biology and maths

@kimmonismus 150 scientists vs a guy who actually works with the tech

kind of tells u where this is headed

@GaryMarcus "signer of the document" getting wielded like a dunk is funny when the whole point was the camps arent mutually exclusive

@kimmonismus bro did you hear about the "physicists" that are gate-keeping other physicists i.e. doing seminars in public - or make it super hard/black list them? there was a whole episode where @ericweinstein discussed this - i forget exactly what he said @grok can fill the gaps

@kimmonismus My guess is that this is just special pleading. Currently bargaining. You can see the stages of grief play out in real time:

@GaryMarcus My bad, i didnt look carefully. I apologize for didnt do enough reserach.

@kimmonismus pretty good on logic as it is bear mathematical. So I suggest you take note of what it says here.

We already know this because millions of us are being harmed in real time.

@kimmonismus Oh… oh… oh… how soon they will see That you should not have underestimated me

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