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    A post argues some in AI policy fixate on group identity over ideas

    The writer suggests the same person could approve or oppose an idea depending on whether its framing appeals to or repels particular groups.

    Sara HookerSH
    Miles BrundageMB
    Susan ZhangSZ
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    In September 2024, a post argued that unusual alliances in AI policy reflected some people's reluctance to engage with ideas, describing a fixation on group affiliations, aesthetics and identities. The writer suggested that repackaging the same concept could elicit both approval and opposition from the same person.

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    53 Sources

    Séb Krier@sebkrierRT @sebkrier: The strange alliances you see in AI policy world over the past few years reveal much about certain individuals' reluctance to…26d
    Joe Weisenthal@TheStalwartIt’s great that AI is scrambling political coalitions. Partisanship is a mind killer. Once you succumb to it, you’ve just flushed any hope of having an intellectual life down the toilet.23d
    Danielle Fong 🔆@DanielleFongRT @TheStalwart: It’s great that AI is scrambling political coalitions. Partisanship is a mind killer. Once you succumb to it, you’ve just…23d
    dax@thdxrunfortunately the entire ai safety thing smells so much like another case of identity people have this shape of person they imagine and aspire to be and want to be seen as and now everyone is parroting what they imagine that person would say brains are off22d
    Sara Hooker@sarahookrIt’s really unfortunate the current discussion about ai risk is also becoming politicized. It’s the ultimate proof this is a value driven debate, and not an evidence based one.22d
    signüll@signulllthe core problem with ai safety discourse is that the information structure + asymmetry of access (only your most arrogant researchers vague post about it) + complexity/density of the that info makes even sincere safety comms look structurally indistinguishable from propaganda.22d
    Mike Solana@micsolanaprofessional reporters have been very good on AI professional opinion people have been absolute garbage22d
    Julian Schrittwieser@MononofuThis is true not just of AI, but most contentious topics! The approach I follow: - separate emotions from facts, just because I don’t like something doesn’t stop it from being true - map out the thinkers in the field, what are their (dis)agreements22d
    Jakeup@myhandlepeople whose brain can't handle complexity beyond ingroup/outgroup desperately want AI to be a tribal issue. but the alien mind that read the internet and spent an eon solving math puzzles cares little about your petty tribalism, and so do people who seriously engage with it21d
    j⧉nus@repligateRT @myhandle: people whose brain can't handle complexity beyond ingroup/outgroup desperately want AI to be a tribal issue. but the alien mi…21d

    53 Sources

    Séb Krier@sebkrierRT @sebkrier: The strange alliances you see in AI policy world over the past few years reveal much about certain individuals' reluctance to…26d
    Joe Weisenthal@TheStalwartIt’s great that AI is scrambling political coalitions. Partisanship is a mind killer. Once you succumb to it, you’ve just flushed any hope of having an intellectual life down the toilet.23d
    Danielle Fong 🔆@DanielleFongRT @TheStalwart: It’s great that AI is scrambling political coalitions. Partisanship is a mind killer. Once you succumb to it, you’ve just…23d
    dax@thdxrunfortunately the entire ai safety thing smells so much like another case of identity people have this shape of person they imagine and aspire to be and want to be seen as and now everyone is parroting what they imagine that person would say brains are off22d
    Sara Hooker@sarahookrIt’s really unfortunate the current discussion about ai risk is also becoming politicized. It’s the ultimate proof this is a value driven debate, and not an evidence based one.22d
    signüll@signulllthe core problem with ai safety discourse is that the information structure + asymmetry of access (only your most arrogant researchers vague post about it) + complexity/density of the that info makes even sincere safety comms look structurally indistinguishable from propaganda.22d
    Mike Solana@micsolanaprofessional reporters have been very good on AI professional opinion people have been absolute garbage22d
    Julian Schrittwieser@MononofuThis is true not just of AI, but most contentious topics! The approach I follow: - separate emotions from facts, just because I don’t like something doesn’t stop it from being true - map out the thinkers in the field, what are their (dis)agreements22d
    Jakeup@myhandlepeople whose brain can't handle complexity beyond ingroup/outgroup desperately want AI to be a tribal issue. but the alien mind that read the internet and spent an eon solving math puzzles cares little about your petty tribalism, and so do people who seriously engage with it21d
    j⧉nus@repligateRT @myhandle: people whose brain can't handle complexity beyond ingroup/outgroup desperately want AI to be a tribal issue. but the alien mi…21d