ML educator Santiago Valdarrama and founder Bojan Tunguz mock marketing hype framing standard Slack bots as new paradigms
Story Overview
ML educator Santiago Valdarrama posted a direct jab at the habit of labeling ordinary Slack bots as groundbreaking shifts, asking whether the industry has lost all sense of restraint with such wording, and founder Bojan Tunguz replied that the field never possessed that restraint in the first place.
Casual replies that reveal the pattern
The short back-and-forth captures a recurring eye-roll at inflated labels for routine automation, with no deeper product details or announcements attached to the moment.
How far the word 'paradigm' has drifted
Thread replies point to similar past rebrandings of familiar features, yet stop short of naming any current tool or quantifying how often the term appears in marketing.
Many users dismissed the "new paradigm" label for the Slack bot as mere marketing fluff or a rebrand, while others praised the existing tool as a game changer or backed the critique.
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@svpino Sir, we never had any decency to begin with.
Are we honestly calling a Slack bot “a new paradigm”? Have we lost all decency?
@svpino seems u missed the memo. all decency was lost last century
@svpino Yes. Karpathy is officially not relevant. The villain arch is complete.
@svpino They do not care because they are going to get filthy stinkin' rich, but everyone is losing the respect they worked so hard to build.
I wish the folks at the labs were just honest about their intentions instead of playing pretend.
@svpino It's what's behind the bot that's the shift. The fact that it's reusing a tried and tested interface is the selling point.
@tunguz I cannot disagree, although I’d like to
@svpino Apparently they've got claude doing all the coding and writing tweets
@svpino I thought cursor, openclaw, Hermes all had that for a while
@svpino cut him some slack man, he lost access to fable/mythos more than a week ago. he clearly doesn't remember what a new paradigm means
@svpino We have lost it the moment when we were told that coding agents have solved "software engineering".
@svpino Should have make an AIM bot.
@svpino Lol indeed. This is even worse than it seems because this is literally openclaw's proposition and it came way back earlier this year
@svpino fair point, the marketing fluff is getting a bit out of hand.
@svpino too much stupid.. 1986 wants a reboot to shake out all the stupid people..
@svpino I think the entry of agents into the native systems of large corporations, interacting in real time with systems and people, is the paradigm shift he spoke about.
@svpino They reinvented openclaw
@svpino 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@svpino 确实，感觉没什么稀奇的。这个事情大部分开发者早期是能办到的，不过更多还是权限和安全的管理。
@svpino Depends on whether you're evaluating the UI or the behavior. A Slack bot isn't new. An AI coworker embedded into daily workflows might be
@svpino He never had any.