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    An internal post-Astra model’s claimed mathematical edge draws skepticism

    A post quotes Sam Altman saying the model can do things the world’s best mathematicians cannot. A critic questions whether current systems have produced new mathematical insights.

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    A post quoting Sam Altman’s conversation with Salesforce CEO Benioff relays his claim that an internal model beyond Astra can do things the world’s best mathematicians cannot. A critic sharing those remarks argues that solving challenges is different from developing new ways of understanding math, and says they know of no new mathematical insights from current systems. The critic also questions whether math results that rely on symbolic verification tools generalize well beyond math.

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    @rohanpaul_aiSam Altman just said an internal post-Astra model can solve things the world's best mathematicians cannot. in his conversation with Mark Benioff (co-founder and CEO of Salesforce) "GPT 5.5 was maybe as good as like an average math professor. 5.6 was as good as like a maybe top one or two percentile math professor. Astra was a little bit better than that. And then this internal model past Astra is one that can do things that the best mathematicians in the world cannot." ---- From "Salesforce" YouTube channel, (full video link in comment)
    @GaryMarcusAnd yet so far as I know not one new actual mathematical insight What this really reveals is that Altman doesn’t know the first thing about math. Math is, as Terence Tao has pointed out repeatedly, not just about the kind of challenges that current models can solve with brute force, but coming up with new ways of understanding math. AFAIK current systems haven’t done that. Moreover what they have done in math – where they rely on symbolic verification tools – probably doesn’t generalize all that well to the rest of the life. Altman doesn’t want you think about that, either.

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    @rohanpaul_aiSam Altman just said an internal post-Astra model can solve things the world's best mathematicians cannot. in his conversation with Mark Benioff (co-founder and CEO of Salesforce) "GPT 5.5 was maybe as good as like an average math professor. 5.6 was as good as like a maybe top one or two percentile math professor. Astra was a little bit better than that. And then this internal model past Astra is one that can do things that the best mathematicians in the world cannot." ---- From "Salesforce" YouTube channel, (full video link in comment)
    @GaryMarcusAnd yet so far as I know not one new actual mathematical insight What this really reveals is that Altman doesn’t know the first thing about math. Math is, as Terence Tao has pointed out repeatedly, not just about the kind of challenges that current models can solve with brute force, but coming up with new ways of understanding math. AFAIK current systems haven’t done that. Moreover what they have done in math – where they rely on symbolic verification tools – probably doesn’t generalize all that well to the rest of the life. Altman doesn’t want you think about that, either.