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    AI labs are said to pay data vendors millions for training environments

    One poster links data companies' earnings to frontier labs' lack of access to what they call “product surface.”

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    4 Sources, 1h ago, first seen 1h ago

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    A poster argues that frontier AI labs lack access to “product surface,” which they see as important to data companies' earnings. Another says labs pay data vendors millions for environments, with higher prices for ones closer to real people's digital worlds. A reply points to Google as an exception with product access and speculates that this may also make getting things right harder.

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    Shubhendu Trivedi@_onionesque@sarahookr Not with google though. They do have the product surface, which I think makes the situation there interesting. I have a theory that that partly makes getting things right more difficult too.1h
    Sara Hooker@sarahookrRT @tanmay2099: Great take and quite true! Basically all labs have an RL-shaped hammer and are paying data vendors millions for env-shape…1h
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    Shubhendu Trivedi@_onionesque@sarahookr Not with google though. They do have the product surface, which I think makes the situation there interesting. I have a theory that that partly makes getting things right more difficult too.1h
    Sara Hooker@sarahookrRT @tanmay2099: Great take and quite true! Basically all labs have an RL-shaped hammer and are paying data vendors millions for env-shape…1h
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