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Joscha Bach, cognitive scientist known for MicroPsi architectures, states that computation matters for understanding life and cognition due to causal insulation in self-contained systems

AI safety researcher davidad replies with complementary principle of acausal non-isolation.

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What makes computation important to understanding life and minds is not the Turing machine, but the principle of causal insulation. Computers create their own, self contained world, fully governed by rules that are independent from the dynamics of the substrate.

1:58 PM · May 18, 2026 View on X

@Plinz And, dually, acausal non-isolation!

Joscha BachJoscha Bach@Plinz

What makes computation important to understanding life and minds is not the Turing machine, but the principle of causal insulation. Computers create their own, self contained world, fully governed by rules that are independent from the dynamics of the substrate.

8:58 PM · May 18, 2026 · 14.7K Views
8:53 AM · May 19, 2026 · 290 Views

Just as text keeps information stable, computers keep transition functions (information dynamics) stable. For text, it is not important whether we write it on clay tablets, paper or hard drives. For the computer, it is not important whether it's biological, chemical or electric.

Joscha BachJoscha Bach@Plinz

What makes computation important to understanding life and minds is not the Turing machine, but the principle of causal insulation. Computers create their own, self contained world, fully governed by rules that are independent from the dynamics of the substrate.

8:58 PM · May 18, 2026 · 14.7K Views
8:58 PM · May 18, 2026 · 3.2K Views