Anthropic declines Chinese request for newest AI model
Anthropic declined a request from a Chinese think tank for access to its newest AI model at a Carnegie Endowment meeting in Singapore last month. National Security Council officials were briefed and expressed alarm. The latest models from Anthropic and OpenAI have extended the US lead. President Trump is scheduled to meet Xi Jinping in Beijing. Related posts discussed AI safety protocols and possible changes to NVIDIA GPU export controls.
I wonder how many people have a guess why it's these two specifically, besides lobbying or quirks of personal chemistry. I think the idea really is one of a "grand bargain" – which is unlikely to be realized but makes sense.

@RyanFedasiuk et al say there's no need for bargains; the US has got compute, has got Mythos, it's stronk, it can dictate the terms. But the US actually still sucks ass in physical manufacturing. At this rate it gets AGI/ASI before 2028, and… then what? Does this guarantee a robust advantage over China? Perhaps; if they play their cards right with cybersecurity, perhaps not. What's the doubling rate for near-completely automated industry? We'll see the answer in the Yangtze Delta before California or Texas. Or what's the timeline for high-N rare earth refinement and high volume manufacturing of actuators and all other components in the US? That seems a bit longer than 2028 to me. China meanwhile will have "good enough" AI, exponential scaling of their robotic industry, and it can currently *cripple* American production of industrial hardware, in particular – Musk's entire Optimus project. Ironically, they haven't been throttling American reindustrialization as hard as they could precisely due to the same logic that hawks like Fedasiuk dismiss for AI – preference to keep a dependent customer rather than a full-stack competitor. But if your customer insists… two can play the export controls game. So I guess Elon wants to ensure he will keep his manufacturing contracts going and hopefully expand to more niches (eg his space solar ambitions), and Jensen wants to get a market back, and from the Chinese perspective, this is a give-and-take.
We'll see how it develops, but this is my basic read.

I wonder how many people have a guess why it's these two specifically, besides lobbying or quirks of personal chemistry. I think the idea really is one of a "grand bargain" – which is unlikely to be realized but makes sense.
Summary from GPT 5.5

I wonder how many people have a guess why it's these two specifically, besides lobbying or quirks of personal chemistry. I think the idea really is one of a "grand bargain" – which is unlikely to be realized but makes sense.
@AndrewCurran_ 750K H200s is not going to be enough to buy this concession I'm afraid
May 6th.
Would be funny if the US is willing to give the *Chinese state* compute for frontier AGI on the modest condition that China adopts US-style approach of only releasing weak-ass open models to deny capabilities to *the people*. One hell of a negotiation
Bessent yesterday: 'The two Al superpowers are going to start talking. We're going to set up a protocol in terms of how do we go forward with best practices for Al to make sure nonstate actors don't get a hold of these models.'
From the article: 'The two AI superpowers are going to start talking. We're going to set up a protocol in terms of how do we go forward with best practices for AI to make sure nonstate actors don't get a hold of these models," Bessent told Joe Kernen on Thursday, on the sidelines of President Donald Trump's two-day meeting in Beijing with Chinese President Xi Jinping. "The reason we are able to have wholesome discussions with the Chinese on AI is because we are in the lead," Bessent added. "I do not think we would be having the same discussions if they were this far ahead of us," he said.' 'Bessent told CNBC he anticipates a big "step-function jump" in upcoming large language model releases from Google's Gemini and OpenAI. When asked about a Reuters report that Washington had cleared sales of Nvidia's H200 AI chips to several major Chinese technology firms, Bessent said there had been "a lot of back-and-forth" on the matter.'
From the article:
'The two AI superpowers are going to start talking. We're going to set up a protocol in terms of how do we go forward with best practices for AI to make sure nonstate actors don't get a hold of these models," Bessent told Joe Kernen on Thursday, on the sidelines of President Donald Trump's two-day meeting in Beijing with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
"The reason we are able to have wholesome discussions with the Chinese on AI is because we are in the lead," Bessent added. "I do not think we would be having the same discussions if they were this far ahead of us," he said.'
'Bessent told CNBC he anticipates a big "step-function jump" in upcoming large language model releases from Google's Gemini and OpenAI.
When asked about a Reuters report that Washington had cleared sales of Nvidia's H200 AI chips to several major Chinese technology firms, Bessent said there had been "a lot of back-and-forth" on the matter.'

May 6th.

An interesting line in Politico’s coverage of the proposed AI executive order, which, at 16 pages, is also much longer than expected. This is still under discussion and not yet finalized, and everything I'm about to write is conjecture, but it appears the administration intends to regulate US open-weight models. Here are the reasons why this will almost certainly happen in some form. Open-weight models are currently about nine months behind the frontier. Once the big labs are subjected to pre-release screening, development itself will not slow down, but the release cadence will. At that point, open-weight development will quickly close the gap - much faster than nine months. When those models surpass the big labs, everyone will switch to using open-weight alternatives. From the administration’s perspective, allowing this option defeats the entire purpose of regulation. If the government is restricting and vetting models beyond a certain capability level, and people can simply switch to open-weight models that are just as capable - and eventually even more capable as the big labs slow down their release schedules under the new rules - then the situation becomes even worse from the government's perspective. They will not allow this to happen. Second, the big labs themselves have almost certainly been covertly lobbying for open-weight models to be included in any new regulations. Allowing the public to switch to a superior, free alternative would completely destroy their business models, potentially bankrupting them all. Given the enormous scale of current investment in these companies and in AI infrastructure, the broader economy would also suffer "significant disruption". That leaves China. If the two dynamics above play out, the same pattern repeats: everyone switches to Chinese open-weight models, which now quickly surpass both US closed and open releases. This produces the same consequences for the big labs, and causes the same issues with regulation. The government therefore has only two realistic options: ban Chinese models from use in the West, or negotiate a deal with Xi Jinping to impose identical regulation and pre-release vetting on open-weight models in China. The first option would mean China pulls ahead and wins the AI race. So the administration will almost certainly pursue the second. Negotiations are likely already underway, because the ideal outcome for the admin would be to announce that China has agreed to similar restrictions to what they are announcing, thereby blunting domestic backlash. China will know it has the US over a barrel and will insist on compromises. Compromises such as lifting all export controls on NVIDIA GPUs.
Would be funny if the US is willing to give the *Chinese state* compute for frontier AGI on the modest condition that China adopts US-style approach of only releasing weak-ass open models to deny capabilities to *the people*. One hell of a negotiation
@teortaxesTex What about Mythos access.
@AndrewCurran_ 750K H200s is not going to be enough to buy this concession I'm afraid
People are saying in the comments that the US has nothing to offer in this scenario that could possibly sway China. But sometimes the Art of the Deal means thinking big.

People are saying in the comments that the US has nothing to offer in this scenario that could possibly sway China. But sometimes the Art of the Deal means thinking big.
@teortaxesTex

@teortaxesTex What about Mythos access.
@teortaxesTex I predicted this exact scenario. I must not let that devil Pride overcome me.
Would be funny if the US is willing to give the *Chinese state* compute for frontier AGI on the modest condition that China adopts US-style approach of only releasing weak-ass open models to deny capabilities to *the people*. One hell of a negotiation
@teortaxesTex very funny 💀🔫
Would be funny if the US is willing to give the *Chinese state* compute for frontier AGI on the modest condition that China adopts US-style approach of only releasing weak-ass open models to deny capabilities to *the people*. One hell of a negotiation