A federal jury in Oakland rejects Elon Musk's 2024 lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman after finding the statute of limitations expired on all claims
Decision ends immediate legal threat to OpenAI's $730 billion valuation.
#76Elon Musk@ELONMUSKThis illustrates why the ruling by the terrible activist Oakland judge, who simply used the jury as a fig leaf, creates such a terrible precedent.
She just handed out a free license to loot charities if you can keep the looting quiet for a few years!
Beff (e/acc)@beffjezosAnyone wanna go out together to raise $1B seed @ 0% dil with me now that this precedent is set?
#76Elon Musk@ELONMUSKRegarding the OpenAI case, the judge & jury never actually ruled on the merits of the case, just on a calendar technicality.
There is no question to anyone following the case in detail that Altman & Brockman did in fact enrich themselves by stealing a charity. The only question is WHEN they did it!
I will be filing an appeal with the Ninth Circuit, because creating a precedent to loot charities is incredibly destructive to charitable giving in America.
OpenAI was founded to benefit all of humanity.
#87Edward Grefenstette@EGREFENB-but I thought you should nEvEr BeT aGaInSt ElOn 🤣
#153Gary Marcus@GARYMARCUSthe AI trial of the century ended with a procedural whimper rather a bang; the jury agreed that Musk was too late but never weighed in on the questions of whether OpenAI did was legitimate.
and so we will never know what the world might be like had OpenAI been forced to fully follow its original mission.
#153Gary Marcus@GARYMARCUSa very procedural end to the AI trial of the century.
we will never know what the world might be like had OpenAI been forced to fully follow its original mission.
#153Gary Marcus@GARYMARCUSthe AI trial of the century ended with a procedural whimper rather a bang; the jury agreed that Musk was too late but never weighed in on the questions of whether OpenAI did was legitimate.
and so we will never know what the world might be like had OpenAI been forced to fully follow its original mission (as reprinted below).
#167Emad@EMOSTAQUESo would this be legal under the ruling:
Set up a charity, raise $100m etc
When setting it up say you may set up a for profit & raise billions
Three years later set up for profit with IP transferred from foundation
Give yourself equity
Profit?
Elon Musk@elonmuskRegarding the OpenAI case, the judge & jury never actually ruled on the merits of the case, just on a calendar technicality. There is no question to anyone following the case in detail that Altman & Brockman did in fact enrich themselves by stealing a charity. The only question is WHEN they did it! I will be filing an appeal with the Ninth Circuit, because creating a precedent to loot charities is incredibly destructive to charitable giving in America. OpenAI was founded to benefit all of humanity.
#517Andrew Curran@ANDREWCURRAN_Verdict.
Hadas Gold@Hadas_GoldJury verdict, Musk loses Claims barred by statute of limitations REMEMBER this is advisory
#517Andrew Curran@ANDREWCURRAN_Elon will be appealing:
Elon Musk@elonmuskRegarding the OpenAI case, the judge & jury never actually ruled on the merits of the case, just on a calendar technicality. There is no question to anyone following the case in detail that Altman & Brockman did in fact enrich themselves by stealing a charity. The only question is WHEN they did it! I will be filing an appeal with the Ninth Circuit, because creating a precedent to loot charities is incredibly destructive to charitable giving in America. OpenAI was founded to benefit all of humanity.
@haydenfield I thought everyone came out looking worse, unfortunately.
Hayden Field@haydenfieldPublic opinion of the AI industry is already sinking. A parade of seemingly untrustworthy executives makes it look worse. Ultimately, Musk v. Altman was a battle about control—and even though claims were dismissed, some of the trial takeaways were damning. https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/932464/musk-v-altman-proved-that-ai-is-led-by-the-wrong-people
@GaryMarcus Why are there two spaces after "with" before "a"? That usually happens when someone copy+pastes, often from a chatbot.
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcusthe AI trial of the century ended with a procedural whimper rather a bang; the jury agreed that Musk was too late but never weighed in on the questions of whether OpenAI did was legitimate. and so we will never know what the world might be like had OpenAI been forced to fully follow its original mission (as reprinted below).
#609Will Knight@WILLKNIGHTMusk has lost his lawsuit against openai, by @peard33 and @ZeffMax https://www.wired.com/story/musk-v-altman-jury-verdict/
#687Bojan Tunguz@TUNGUZIt’s over.
#837Jimmy Apples 🍎/acc@APPLES_JIMMYHe also lost another case in February when he accused openai of poaching his employees.
You’re not going to have a better lab by trying crap lawsuits bro.
#839Beff (e/acc)@BEFFJEZOSAnyone wanna go out together to raise $1B seed @ 0% dil with me now that this precedent is set?
#1245Alex Volkov@ALTRYNEBREAKING: in Musk v. Altman, a unanimous nine-person jury found OpenAI not liable! determining that Elon Musk brought his claims past the legal statute of limitations.
Judge Yvonne Gonzalez indicated she'll likely side with the jury.
@OpenAI avoids a potentially devastating mandate to dismantle its commercial structure, unwind its multi-billion-dollar partnership with Microsoft, or revert entirely to its original 2015 nonprofit model.
@ShakeelHashim I guess it bought us a few days more runway to the singularity, so I'll take it.
Shakeel@ShakeelHashimWell that was a good use of everyone’s time!
