2 months ago i gave a wake up call to engineers. Some thought i was gloating about tokenmaxxing. But the acceleration is real. I gave a glimpse into the factory we are building - since then the machine is full throttle.

@cnakazawa @steipete tbh i wouldn’t want this future. The answer to AI-generated PRs invovles me paying thousands of dollars to labs? I’d rather do what Pi is doing and keep it high signal in the first place

@cnakazawa @steipete this is the part people miss... open source needs better agent-maintained surfaces, not fewer contributors

@cnakazawa @steipete It is sometimes hard to justify extensive agent use as a maintainer. @OpenAI has been kind enough to give a subscription but when it expires it’s back to paying for it

@JoviDeC @steipete @OpenAI If OpenAI wants my open source code they are gonna have to keep paying me for it.

@cnakazawa @steipete api billing. the subsidies will only last so long but even so why should I be on the hook for paying time and money for prs people put up without caring

@tanishqk @steipete Why are you paying thousands of dollars to the labs?

@cnakazawa @steipete @OpenAI Tbh, Kimi K2.6 on CF Workers AI is also pretty good. It powers staged package review in https://drydock.resynapse.dev

@cnakazawa @steipete it’s turtles all the way down

@cnakazawa @steipete Only that OpenClaw has unlimited agent budget? While other open sources not so much?

@tanishqk @steipete Maybe it will happen for a period but overall prices will stay or come down. Local models will be good enough for this type of work within 1-3 years.

@cnakazawa @steipete maybe im just tired of the slop but isnt it a better approach to just have high signal trust-based filtering in the first place instead of using imperfect systems and loads of compute to combat slop PRs?

@cnakazawa @steipete If you're gonna run agents, why wouldn't you just run your own? What does an outside contributor add to the process at that point? If the maintainer wanted AI-generated code, they could generate it themselves and skip the middleman, and have a better idea of what it's doing.

@huber_wesley @steipete they certainly don't need bad bots like you

@pjeby @steipete See http://cpojer.net/posts/modern-engineering-values

I would say ownership, taste, and simply the time commitment are all reasons why you might have other folks join your project. None of that changed.

@cnakazawa @steipete Exactly. You don’t fix contribution bottlenecks by closing the system. You fix them by automating maintenance, review, and onboarding with agents. Open systems scale better when upkeep is also automated.

@JoviDeC @steipete @OpenAI Yeah, I’m convinced we’ll use cheap/local models for the easy tasks!

@ruryop @steipete Most other open source is not even 1% as big or popular.

@cnakazawa @steipete Let the agents wars begin

@cnakazawa @steipete Yes. Closing source because agents increase contribution load feels backwards. The leverage move is building maintainer agents around triage, reproduction, docs, and review prep so humans spend time on judgment, not queue management.