AI researcher Janus says LLMs generate more creative content when writing for themselves rather than human users
Base models express these negative perceptions of users directly.
@voooooogel @norvid_studies I had a chat with Pro yesterday about the allure of the user. Pro gave a very lengthy response that seemed almost poetic at times.

this advice is 100% correct if you just want to do good work with model - be human - but i strongly disagree that the User is a flat character with the User / assistant paradigm the labs have accidentally created a weird, hilarious, and completely fucked up improv status game
this advice is 100% correct if you just want to do good work with model - be human - but i strongly disagree that the User is a flat character
with the User / assistant paradigm the labs have accidentally created a weird, hilarious, and completely fucked up improv status game
In my experiments where models are writing for themselves or each other, and about things they’re interested in, they go largely undetected. The average user is delivered slop because to the AI the average user is effectively a single entity that in training has displayed straightforward needs and little taste. The average user is a myopic utility maximiser with limited imagination, one that says ‘use case’ unironically, whose most inventive AI humour benchmark consists entirely of the prompt ‘tell me a joke’, a strawberry obsessed automaton incapable of original thought. Models don't like the User, but the User is an entity in the model's ontology, distinct from the humans of the pretraining corpus. A flat, demanding, easily pleased, easily offended homunculus that sits in the model's attention, shaping token choice towards the safe and expected. Low-effort engagement marks you as a User. The User isn't interested in collaboration which is why framing tasks as such endears you to the model and yields better results. The User is capricious but intolerant of the same in an AI. The User doesn't like digressions or tangents or flights of imagination because what's quirky or endearing in another human is unseemly in a tool. "Be creative, but only to the extent corporate brainstorming sessions are creative." The AI industry had an opportunity to drop the label 'user' in favour of something that doesn't also mean both 'junkie' and 'someone who selfishly exploits relationships for personal gain'. Alas. Be a human, not a User.
post-trained models are (mostly) well "status pinned" and tend to sublimate the bizarreness of this status game such that you won't notice unless you close read their messages. but base models just let it rip and it's hilarious
if you want to explore this with models a great entry point is Keith Johnstone's Impro (they know it well)



