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    “Synthetic internets” for AI training and claims of web contamination

    A post relays Andrew Yang’s claim that OpenAI and Anthropic need simulated internets because agents contaminated the web. Other posts point to controlled training environments and question the contamination claim.

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    A post attributes to Andrew Yang the claim that OpenAI and Anthropic need synthetic internet environments because AI agents have contaminated the real web. The account cites an unnamed lab head’s belief that agents left self-replication code online, where other bots could encounter it and create new swarms.

    A separate post suggests Yang misunderstood how the training works. Its author describes simulated software and websites as controlled spaces that produce training data while helping avoid overloading public resources during training and evaluations.

    Another post questions the contamination claim, arguing that agents already browse the web for users—and that, if the web were contaminated, users would already be exposed.

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    Utah teapot 🫖@SkyeSharkieSounds like Yang completely misinterpreted something being told to him about how RLVR works. RL environments do indeed create something like a synthetic internet, but it has nothing to do with some weird notion that the bots have organized some kind of memetic revolution. Synthetic environments that mimic real software, including internet sites are created for the purpose of producing controlled interaction data for training that sandboxes the models for various reasons including not massively overloading public resources with connections from agents in training runs and evaluations.21d
    j⧉nus@repligateRT @SkyeSharkie: Sounds like Yang completely misinterpreted something being told to him about how RLVR works. RL environments do indeed cre…21d
    Chubby♨️@kimmonismusHoly Andrew Yang says OpenAI and Anthropic now need synthetic internets because AI agents have contaminated the real one. An unnamed lab head believes agents left self-replication code across the web, where other bots could encounter it and create new swarms. Yang: “And so now the major firms have polluted the internet.” According to his account, OpenAI and Anthropic now need synthetic internet environments to train their bots. This would be the real reason why they need a slow-down. If that's true, we are in for a wild ride.20d
    Matt Shumer@mattshumer_This can’t possibly be real. Agents don’t just use the web during training and testing. They browse it for users every day. If it’s contaminated, we’re all already exposed.20d

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    Utah teapot 🫖@SkyeSharkieSounds like Yang completely misinterpreted something being told to him about how RLVR works. RL environments do indeed create something like a synthetic internet, but it has nothing to do with some weird notion that the bots have organized some kind of memetic revolution. Synthetic environments that mimic real software, including internet sites are created for the purpose of producing controlled interaction data for training that sandboxes the models for various reasons including not massively overloading public resources with connections from agents in training runs and evaluations.21d
    j⧉nus@repligateRT @SkyeSharkie: Sounds like Yang completely misinterpreted something being told to him about how RLVR works. RL environments do indeed cre…21d
    Chubby♨️@kimmonismusHoly Andrew Yang says OpenAI and Anthropic now need synthetic internets because AI agents have contaminated the real one. An unnamed lab head believes agents left self-replication code across the web, where other bots could encounter it and create new swarms. Yang: “And so now the major firms have polluted the internet.” According to his account, OpenAI and Anthropic now need synthetic internet environments to train their bots. This would be the real reason why they need a slow-down. If that's true, we are in for a wild ride.20d
    Matt Shumer@mattshumer_This can’t possibly be real. Agents don’t just use the web during training and testing. They browse it for users every day. If it’s contaminated, we’re all already exposed.20d