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- TheSlup, on 10/10/2007, -3/+42Not only is it now sold out, but Best Buy has changed the price to $179.
- dunlop, on 10/10/2007, -11/+32some of us are not 12 year olds. while I believe that Blu Ray will win the format war. If I can get a HD-DVD drive for $150 with 5 free movies and a good 2 years of support then super duper. After 2 years when HD-DVD is dead I'll buy myself a $99 BluRay player.
it's called employment. - BrandonMills, on 10/10/2007, -14/+32Too little, too late. Leaving the HD-DVD drive out of the Elite will still come back to haunt Microsoft. People don't buy addons. If Bluray wins, M$ will wish they forced HD-DVD down the throats of XBox 360 users just like Sony.
- KingGoonie, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19Again, I don't get this.. i was just in Target yesterday and they had more HD
- mntbikeracer1, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17Maybe you cannot read or maybe you are just ***** laze but the rebate is for the Xbox HD-DVD player, it is similar to the Toshiba rebate, yes, but this one is specifically for the Xbox HD-DVD player!
- mrgreen4242, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19It's a piece of FUD Sony is spreading. They have a deal with Target to "feature" BD players on end caps, etc in their stores. Sony then had a press release which worded this to sound like Target was going BD exclusive, which it's not. They are still selling HDDVDs and the 360 HDDVD drive in stores, as well as selling all of that and Toshibe HDDVD players online.
I've not seen a Worlworth in decades, so I could care less about them. Never heard of BJ's, doesn't sound like a significant player to base any kind of decision on. I'm still waiting for Walmart to get in the game. I'm pretty sure they will decide who wins... a cheap player and exclusive disc sales at the worlds largest seller of DVDs (and just about everything else) will lock up the win for either side, regardless of how it looks up till that point. - westers47, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15If you look at history sony has made more mistakes than any one, when it comes to format. For example Beta, Minidisk and not to mention memory sticks which only work with sony products. When it comes down to history usually sony looses out. I ll put my money on HD DVD
- mrgreen4242, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The 5 free offer has been expanded to the 360 add-on as of a week or so ago. The complain about the "Blu Ray camp doing the same thing" was about Sony, et al claiming a certain number of BD "shipped" while insinuating they were sales, but including the 5 free with any player, including the PS3, in that number.
- chocobomog, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Yea, people misread the Target announcement. Prior to now, Target has not sold a stand-alone HD player (Blu-ray or HD) in store, but they have sold both types of discs. The announcement was that they were only going to sell Blu-ray stand-alone players this holiday season. They will still sell both types of movies, and they will still sell the 360 HD add-on and the PS3.
- shelbygt33, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Blockbuster online allows you to rent HDDVD.
- themastersb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I hate how things in Canada have begun to cost so much more over the past few years. In case people haven't noticed.... OUR DOLLAR IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME AS THE USD SO LOWER PRICES UP HERE!
- dunlop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12seems to be US only, still $199 Canuck dollars up in the Great White North...plus I do not see anything about the 5 free movie promo : (
- mashedpotatoes, on 10/10/2007, -7/+16When they drop to $99, kiss blu-ray goodbye.
- C0lMustard, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I think MS was hedging their bets in coming out with a seperate HDDVD drive anyway... by seperating the movie playback from gaming they aren't considered a failure if blueray wins. If blueray wins toshiba will have an xbox drive. IMO by the time HD movie playback becomes mainstream MS will have another generation of console.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9It is also the main reason PS3 more people don't buy it.
- jacksons98, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6@KingGoonie I did some reading apparently it looks like Target is going to still carry HD-DVD movies, and X360 addon, but they won't be carrying stand alone HD-DVD players instore. HD-DVD players will only be available online.
- NavS, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8It's back up to 180... too late... buried...
- Andrew07, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I had one in my hands today, at the 159, and was going to pick it up. I decided not to. I'm sad.
- DCstewieG, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Netflix, my friend. Netflix.
- vincenzo7, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8the 5 free discs is available to xbox hd-dvd buyers. also, ye, bestbuy cancelled the deal. i called up to see if they would pricematch their own site and they sad yes. 20 minutes later, bestbuy.com was changed back to 179.
http://gameimpressions.com/word/?p=10 - lordtyros, on 10/10/2007, -8/+12When they drop the price to $99, I'll pick one up to use for my PC.
- vincenzo7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4good idea! just like joystiq and kotaku. NOT digging blogs is so 2005.
- riddlebox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5This goes to "LETSGOHAWKS"
The XBOX HD-DVD add-on has a rebate now so that when you buy them you get 5 free movies via a mail-in offer.
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/26/xbox-hd-dvd-player-now-179-includes-5-free-movies/
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9750537-1.html
Here is a link to original offer mail-in for toshiba(WARNING PDF FILE). "http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/pdf/rebates/12960.pdf" - gwolf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I wonder if both formats might coexist; mostly because I don't see either of them displacing DVD9 before Internet bandwidth improvements and much lower cost to the consumer make them obsolete. They may never achieve the market penetration they are hoping for and if HD players cost $150 SD players will cost $50.
One thing the success of the Wii should tell us is that quality doesn't always trump price and accesability in the mass market. - Renton, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7UMD outsold it's competition ∞ to 1, but that doesn't mean it did well. The average consumer just doesn't one.
- dunlop, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9After a quick search, the cheapest BluRay player (Futureshop in Canada) is $550 (PS3), let's say I already have a 360/wii so am not interested in the games the PS3 offers, only the BluRay drive. I will have saved $400, 2 years from now when(if) HD-DVD is dead I will have to spend $100 to buy a new BluRay drive (yes they will be that cheap within 2 years), so I am now $300 ahead.
Obviously this does not factor in movie selection. The main point is that I am much more willing to pony up $150 dollars now than $550 - inajeep, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I got lucky at lunch and bought one. Circuit City price matched w/ Best Buy which the rep looked up via a web page.. I also had a $25 coupon if I spent $200 so I bought 3 HD-DVD movies. With all 3 movies + King Kong w/ was included and the drive it came to $200 and some change with tax. The price on the receipt for the drive came out to be $116 because they still discounted the drive a bit. Next came Microsoft's revenge, after work I hook it up at home, it worked for about 30 seconds (menu looked really good in 1080i) then it froze and the 360 no longer saw it no matter what I did to reset it or the 360. I'm taking it back tomorrow to CC to exchange it out.
- gomerspile, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5dont forget umd
- inajeep, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yes your missing the ability to read the complete article, that or comprehension skills are seriously lax.
- AwesomeAndy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I do all the time.
- pegisys, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Unlike Sony, MS doesn't make any money(besides profit from the drives, if any) from HDDVD and it wouldn't be used for games since the other SKUs don't have the drives
- dolbex, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Unfortunate this was probably just an error on Best Buy's part... :(
- AwesomeAndy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Last I checked, there's a lot more than five HD-DVD movies available.
- TheSlup, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6They are still going to be selling HD-DVD players in store. The confusion was that Sony has bought an end-cap to tout their warez.
- Nabraham, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow, high definition doesn't make movies better? Best comment all day, stick to VHS then if high def doesnt make a difference. And your DVD collection wouldn't become obsolete, DVD's are backwards compatible on HD DVD players. Do some research before you start spouting endless *****.
- Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A set-top Toshiba player starts at $199 (just $20 more than the 360 add-on). Plus it includes a remote and usually an HDMI cable (and component cable), so there's more than $20 worth of Xbox equivalents right there.
- Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Can't be much more effort to ship to Canada than it would to, say, Michigan or Montana.
- ericrous, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Woolworth's is only supporting blu-ray?!?! But where will my grandmother buy her HD-DVD's in the 1960's?
- byronm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Provantage.com has them for 154.27 again.
- frygar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1TRANSLATION - I am more butthurt than that Mr. Hands fellow from Washington state because I have the add-on HD-DVD player for my xbox 360 console.
- ScionX, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3They can drop it to $50 if they want, unless MS plans to make games for HD-DVD I have no use for it.
- DudeOfJustice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Um... it does play 1080p.
- Toast1185, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Too little too late? Outside of the one person I know that owns a PS3, I can't think of anyone that owns a next-gen media playback drive. This is going to be going on for years, or at the very least until someone gives me a reason why I should care which format wins.
- Stevethegreat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Because of PS3. If the price drop of PS3 become reality, I except HD DVD to practically become an obsolete format. Things are going a lot faster in the media industry now than it was in the 80s. The multimedia industry is a lot more mature nowadays, they know that every given format is going to have less and less lifetime as advancements on technology are faster and faster and they will be forced to find a winner a lot sooner than you would expect. I'm sure about it, in one year time, same day, things will be a lot clearer..
- bastian89, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The link brings you to Toshiba's offer.
- LogicBomB, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Buy from the US - I saved like $300 on a digital camera by doing this.
- aelias, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar company if all those people they don't give a ***** about refused to buy their products. So they spend millions of dollars a year catering to those people they don't give a ***** about in an effort to get people to buy their stuff. We care about a format war because noone wants to drop 3K on a player and a bunch of movies to have them discontinue support for a failed format. See the Neo-Geo CD system for example. In the long run, if all I buy is a Wii, then it certainly does make a difference, since it plays neither format. I volunteer for charity, and when I'm done, I want to watch a movie in HD. If you want to spew corp-hate while jerking off on your betamax player, then cool, but leave those who understand how the world works to our own devices. We don't need your help.
- dunlop, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://thelookandsoundofperfect.com/_pdf/xbox360_offer.pdf
- RAT-Man, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Enjoy this formats swan song.
- LLamaStar, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5they didn't put the HD-DVD in the elite because they know it's going to lose the format war.
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