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- tehbored, on 10/12/2007, -4/+320Can you say lawsuit?! Man, they should sue the ***** out of that school. I've heard of stupid expulsions before, but this one just takes the cake!
- atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+211QWA - Quiet While Asian, a new crime in America...
- punchingjudy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+181"asian and quiet"
I love how it's not even specifically anti-Korean, but just completely anti-Asian. Apparently most of the American public is so ***** daft that they can't tell the difference between a Korean and a Japanese kid, so let's just lop them into one giant group and expect them to all behave the same way. God knows that Japan and Korea are practically the same anyway, "am I rite?" One of my racist co-workers keeps referring to Cho as "that Chinese kid"; if I hear him say that one more time, he's getting an oxygen tank to the face.
Holy crap, I hate people. - Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -3/+128"Interesting, but can you spell OUTDATED???
the post date is november 05"
NO, idiot. That's the JOIN date. The post date is in the lower left corner. Perhaps you thought the thread jumped back and forth in time?
-_- - Itazura, on 10/12/2007, -6/+92"in a small Arkansas town"
Explains everything. - cashewhead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+86Be vewy vewy quiet....I'm steweotyping pychopafs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+84I just got off the phone with the Crossett police -- the duty officer said he didn't know anything about this. Which makes me think this is a hoax.
- ageedoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+56That's racist. If they expel him, they should expel kids of all colors that buy t-shirts from Hot Topic.
- x0nIMIn0x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37Caps lock: it's like cruise control for cool.
- lilxvietxboi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35"are you chinese or japanese?"
i'm vietnamese
"so are you chinese or japanese"
.... - Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+39Yo, man. Don't ***** confuse Arkansas with the rest of America.
Seriously, we're ALL embarrassed to have it, along with South Carolina and Texas.
Damned Lincoln and his winning the Civil War. We could SO have dealt with not having the larger part of the Southern Confederacy making us look bad.
Though, then we'd lose Nevada. Nevada's keen. - geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29My point is, I think it's unfair to call someone a racist just because they can't tell a Korean person from a Chinese one. Is it ignorance? I guess you could say that. But racist? Come on.
- thejenway11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25and the paranoia begins...
- thejenway11, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27i'm asian and honestly, about 75% of the time i can't tell the difference between asian people (i mean with korean, japanese, chinese, and sometimes vietnamese people). But there are a select bunch who you can tell right off the bat by just looking and know, "oh that guy is totally korean." Or, "She's definitely vietnamese." Sometimes the clothes give it away, but the only way I can know for sure is if I hear them speak.
- m3th0dm4n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26www.alllooksame.com login
User: rookie
Password: 123456
via: http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.alllooksame.com - shaun3000, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25It'd be like a white man being able to tell Americans, Brits, Irish, Scottish, French, etc. apart. We all look the same.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22I'm an Asian dude but most people can't guess where I'm from. I'm 100% Chinese, but nobody can tell which ethnicity I am. Most think I'm a mix or something. They say, "You CAN'T be Chinese, your eyes aren't small at all and you're way too tan to be Chinese, Chinese people are pale." (way to generalize!) That's how hard it is to tell us apart. I'm NOT offended when people say that all Asians look the same. We do. Just like there are many differentiations of white people (French, Dutch, Russian, German, Irish, Scottish, etc.) for example.
- Ninnux, on 10/12/2007, -10/+31@punchingjudy
Ummm.... my wife is Chinese, and this is straight from the source...even Asians can't differentiate the ethnicity of other Asians. - Rickler, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Honestly, telling a Korean apart from a Nihonjin is like the difference between a Spaniard and a Portuguese or a German and a Netherlander.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19I would like to see something more than a forum post on this story.
- forcedfx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Can we see the expulsion paperwork?
- L33tmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Yeah, even my dad (who lived in Taiwan for 35 years) failed that quiz.
- floppyparty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Thank god he didn't buy the shirt from Hot Topic that says "Asian & Quiet"
- Brightside, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Maybe he should have gone to the Milford Academy instead. "Annyong!"
- JorgeGonzalez, on 11/10/2007, -1/+16Analysis on ericab007 commencing...
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Result: Idiot. - chaimpot0k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I did not find this info, but here it is...
If you feel inclined to contact those involved, here are the specs:
Student expelled: Joshua
School: Crossett High School in Crossett, Arkansas
School's Phone #: (870) 364-3112
Principal: Kelvin Gragg
Principal's email: kgragg@csd2.k12.ar.us
Crossett School District
CSD's Phone #: (870) 364-3112
Superintendent: Janice Warren
Superintendent's email address: jwarren@csd.k12.ar.us - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20@mcvarmazi
There are distinct features that Chinese, Japanese, and Korean people dont share.
When I see an Asian, I can just tell where they are from.
I have no idea how, I am from India. - LtDyson52, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14"I'm furiously deleting MP3s in the meantime"
- haveacigar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Poster has removed it so...
My 16 year old, half Japanese brother, Joshua, was just expelled from high school in a small Arkansas town.
Apparently, someone took offense to a shirt he wore before the VT killings with "4 out of the 5 voices in my head tell me to go for it" on the front, and complained to the office about him being "asian and quiet". Exact words.
The school contacted the police, the police and principal called him to their office along with my mother to arrest him/interrogate him, and they let loose their most damning evidence: His myspace had anime killing of indiscriminate aliens. With lasers. (No idea what anime it is, I don't watch the poo poo).
My mother and he were completely baffled/shocked at what the hell was going on, so they were completely cooperative. He logged onto his myspace/email accounts to show them everything they wanted to see.
A serious into the interrogation was:
Detective: (To my mother) Why does Josh dye his hair black?
Mother: He doesn't.
Detective: That's not your hair color, yours is brown.
Mother: He's half Japanese...
Detective: So?
Mother: That's their natural hair color....
Detective: Oh.
The cops wanted to come to our house and search the place immediately, at least my mother had good sense enough not to let that happen. So they asked the school if it was pressing charges, the principal said they hadn't decided yet, and the detective was really trying to force the principal into it so he could get a search warrant.
Finally the principal said he had no choice but to expel him (way to cave in to pressure, pal), so they left, with the detective saying they'll "be out to our house soon".
I'm furiously deleting MP3s in the meantime, she's already trying to get ahold of the ACLU. - Veingloria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I am the director of a small nonprofit. One of my employees, a young man with a mental illness, was kicked out of his Junior College on Monday. Why? One of the students complained that he "spoke rudely to her" (her words) and said she was afraid of him. She directly referenced the events at Virginia Tech. The president of the Junior College had two policeman present when she called him to her office and originally refused to even explain why she was reimbursing him for his tuition and throwing him out of school. She also directly referenced VT.
We are working with this understandably heart-broken young man to help him understand that this is discrimination and not his fault. At this point, however, he believes that although his grades were excellent, this proves he simply isn't "good enough" for school and does not wish to pursue it further. I am hopeful, however, that with time he will see the incident for what it was and take action. - JorgeGonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You know, at this point in tie, it's best to relocate all Koreans to special "vacation camps" until we can settle this VT Shooter issue. While at these camps, they'll be given a roof over their head and food in exchange for manual labor. I think something like this occurred in the 40's to great success. It's only fair and proper.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13I usually hate it when people cry racism, but this time their right.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Well it's kinda hard for the press to miss a fire. Things like this take a few days to get noticed. People like to get their facts straight before talking to the press on sensitive issues like this. Don't count it out yet just because google doesn't have it. Google is far from instant.
- TheDreadDiggerD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9If the profile for a shooter was only being quiet, then I would have been thrown in jail long ago. In reality, race really doesn't play a part in this. A guy snapped and killed a bunch of people. Yes, it's tragic. Yes, people will blame everything under the sun for the incident. One thing, however, will be true at the end of the day.
The guy was nuts.
The blame lies totally on the fact that Cho was disconnected from reality. Was it society's fault? It's possible, but I guarantee that you'll never pin the blame on one outside source. This is a case of all variables coming together into one worse case scenario.
I'm not saying that there are no lessons to be learned. Just that destroying personal freedom and responsibility needs to stop somewhere. I say it stops here. Cho is responsible for this, and since he is gone he can't argue about it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11all 8 out of 8 voices in my head tell me this is the most outrageous story ive read in recent times
- gbdc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13@Ninnux
I am Korean & I know it's untrue. I can tell Chinese from Korean pretty reliably. Same way for Japanese. So can most if not all of my Asian friends. To us East Asians, it's just like telling French from English for Caucasians -- reliable but not necessarily perfect.
Don't say some race looks indistinguishable from another race because it just shows your ignorance regarding those particular folks... - saxphile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It has less to do with facial features than with clothes, behavior, etc. That's why I failed the face quiz miserably (7 out of 18).
And I'm an Asian who grew up in Asia. - HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"If this is true, can we really complain? I mean, come on, the kid IS Asian and quiet. I think we should temporary suspend all "Asian & quiet" kids from our schools, especially from top colleges. Oh wait, we already did that, it's called Affirmative Action."
Jesus, some of you guys need to understand the concept of sarcasm before digging down worthwhile comments like these. The poster was referring to the top US colleges actively preventing people of a certain ethnicity simply because there are too many of them - i.e. judging them on race alone, not... you know, academic and extra curricular achievements as you should do if you're applying for a college.
But yes, there is something fundamentally wrong with American mindsets when the prime objective is to segregate communities, as opposed to encourage integration. *****, if society had been more welcome and open to the Virginia killer instead of mocking his accent and "slanty eyes", he would've turned out fine. Every person just needs a bit of love and atttention. - DharmaTurtle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7*****! I'm Asian, and quiet.
*****, the dean's here me skedaddle - iOsiris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The 2005 date is the day he joined the forum, the post date is Apr 25, 2007 01:15.
- pronouncable, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Scrolling halfway down the page IS a bitch
"The high school is Crossett High School, obviously in Crossett, Arkansas." - shaun1018, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9It's not that I don't trust the fine goons at SA, but does anybody have a news article about this or anything?
- DrawingTheSun, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15If you don't agree with the person being victimised because he fits a vague profile of Cho, then email the principle:
Student expelled: Joshua
School: Crossett High School in Crossett, Arkansas
School's Phone #: (870) 364-3112
Principal: Kelvin Gragg
Principal's email: kgragg@csd2.k12.ar.us
Crossett School District
CSD's Phone #: (870) 364-3112
Superintendent: Janice Warren
Superintendent's email address: jwarren@csd.k12.ar.us - Chairboy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15I call ***** until we see some specifics. This has a HUGE indication of being a setup, namely that the person describes the school as "a high school in a small arkansas town". Why not mention the name? Oh yeah, because then someone might be able to check the story out.
Let's see some specifics, like a school name or town. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8but... but...
Annyong was a spy! - HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well yeah, 99% of people take crap whatever they are or do... but from reading the wikipedia entry on the killer, in primary school he was well liked by his classmates. Only when he came to the US and started high school did things drastically - he was alienated from the people who should really be interacting with him.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_seung_hui#Behavior_in_middle_school_and_high_school
Another classmate, Stephanie Roberts, stated "There were just some people who were really mean to him, and they would push him down and laugh at him. He didn't speak English really well, and they would really make fun of him."
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Erm, hello? Maybe you should have intervened then, maybe like, TALK to him? Being isolated from society must be absolutely horrendous in what is already a foreign culture for him, and they were only making the situation worse by brandishing "worries" that he had a death list. If you spread rumours that he's a psycho hellbent on revenge, when in reality you're just referring to an isolated, emotionally broken being in a totally alien culture, then hey - he's going to turn into one.
Obv there were chances for the killer to turn things round for himself - going to a teacher, the counselling at college, actively trying to improve his communcation skills and self confidence - but I know from first hand experience with a friend that despite there being outside help, you just feel more and more withdrawn in a society that doesn't want you. She's now turned things round, but it could have just as easily led to suicide and violence. A lot of the time the help has to seek the victim, not the other way round. - KingLeo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Stupid rednecks. Racist and ignorant. Did I mention stupid?
- goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6bigsurjune and geoboy:
Nobody expects people to be able to distinguish between people from different Asian countries based on looks alone. But that doesn't excuse the ignorance of the people who think that a Korean is the same as a Japanese is the same as a Chinese is the same as a Thai, just because they all look Asian. A lot of people in the US, don't even realize that China and Japan or Japan and Korea are different countries. That kind of ignorance is inexcusable. And when someone like that starts mixing that ignorance with prejudice or hate, they deserve whatever criticism they get.
I live in Japan. Is there ignorance here? Yes. Is there racism here? Definitely. But believe me, it's no where near what exists in certain parts of the US. The US, being the economic center of the world, has a tendency to ignore the rest of the world and only look inward. Most other countries, isolationist Japan included, are much more aware of other countries and cultures. - jamesey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5just think, the lawsuit money will let the kid go to a private high school and any college he wants.
- RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I love how some of you are complaining about the stereotyping of Asians, but then in the next breath you call everyone from Arkansas redneck hillbillies.
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