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- Hoboking333, on 11/09/2008, -6/+69Really? Who would have thought people with less money and experience would have trouble finding jobs in a time of recession? Thankfully we have studies to inform us of this kinda stuff!
- Skooma714, on 11/10/2008, -3/+54Apparently people that do studies that ultimately state the ***** obvious still have jobs.
- AManWithNoName, on 11/10/2008, -0/+46Speaking as a young person who has spent the last 5 months looking for a job, and has been turned down by McDonald's for not having enough experience, I can say this is all true.
- SpykerSpeed, on 11/10/2008, -2/+33Politics is war against the young. Old people vote for instant gratification, and they shove the debt and side-effects onto future generations. Anyone who was lucky enough to educate themselves beyond what the public school system taught them can see Medicare and Social Security costs are growing faster than they can be paid for.
- crashbang, on 11/09/2008, -2/+30True.
But how many articles have you seen on digg talking about how billionaires have to tighten thier belts versus the number of articles about how the working poor and young have to tighten thier belts?
There hasn't really been much discussion of that. - Khast, on 11/10/2008, -0/+27I lived in an area which you needed at least $12/hr to just have a Studio Apartment. Problem? Well, considering most jobs paid less than $10/hr in that area. When we had the high fuel costs ($4.75/gal), it wasn't like one could commute to another city, where the wages were similar. And most of the jobs in the area, were being outsourced from technical requirements, to high school degrees, with high turnover..to save on costs. (No medical, no benefits, and no vacation pay....hey, you said you needed a job, how bad did you say you wanted it?
Another thing businesses in the area did was cut all full time work, to part time....and to help save money even further, they wanted you available full time, on call..as business called for. (Making getting a second part time job more difficult to get....hey you don't know what your schedule is going to be...how do you work around that?) Oh, and in some of these jobs...if you were called to come in to work (on call), and you weren't able to....you were fired, and replaced with someone who could.
Yes, there is better paying jobs, but sometimes to make the difference, jobs like McDonalds would hire someone with a college diploma, over someone with a High School Diploma....same wage, same job...but it was how to make hiring decisions, when there was an abundance of applicants.
Moved since then, to a better place. ;P Lower cost of living, with same crappy wages. (Although with low rent (Not talking crappy house, I am in a 3 bedroom HOUSE)) working at $10/hr. And I don't even have to drive, I can walk to work if I desire. - AManWithNoName, on 11/10/2008, -0/+27It wasn't even assistant manager...It was just burger-flipping, regular employee position. It's just that so many older people are needing second jobs nowadays that they're stealing the entry-level jobs away from us young people. At least, that's the main problem where I live.
- AManWithNoName, on 11/10/2008, -0/+19I'm in the process of getting that education, and paying for it by doing odd jobs anywhere I can. I'm pretty sick of people saying that (or acting like) poor people put themselves in their own position--Anyone who's ever said that has NEVER had to face any real problems in their life, I can guarantee.
- nesagwa, on 11/10/2008, -0/+16Gotta have a degree to be an assistant manager in fast food now.
- somesthetic, on 11/10/2008, -5/+20our president is black, nothing we do is racist anymore.
- stillasleep00, on 11/10/2008, -0/+15I went through the same experience a few months ago. Applied all over, dressed up, 4.0 GPA, community service, Eagle Scout... and I ended up at Sonic.
- bookkitten, on 11/10/2008, -1/+16Really!? I had no idea, thankfully I spend 30K on this piece of paper that everyone would say would help... oh wait... I'm still selling coffee...
- Typhoon2009, on 11/10/2008, -0/+14Go into the coffin business. People are always dying. Bars work too, people love to drink. If we aren't in a recession, they drink cause they can afford it. If we are in a recession, they drink to clear their troubles.
I luckily got a job at an ice cream store about 1 month before the ***** truly hit the fan in the form of $700 billion being given away to ***** bankers. I'm probably the best damn worker there so they hopefully won't lay me off. - akchrs, on 11/10/2008, -10/+24Democrats have controlled Congress for 2 years and have done nothing but fail the American people.
- TheFoshizzler, on 11/10/2008, -1/+14what the hell are you talking about?
- modgirl17, on 11/10/2008, -0/+12hell. I'm a recent college grad, and i still haven't found a job. The US has the best damn economy in world!!!
- kirbs2001, on 11/10/2008, -0/+12***** rolls downhill
- greeniemeani, on 11/10/2008, -1/+12I don't know though, you would hope that some middle management with really high salaries would get laid off. I mean the ones who only go to meetings and make excel spreadsheets without really do anything.
- ssjbriguy, on 11/10/2008, -1/+12I graduated from college 5 months ago and I'm finding nothing. And after all that ***** that was drilled into me of why you have to get an education. I feel like I've been lied to.
- thegreatgazoo, on 11/10/2008, -0/+11Generally newbies can do well in a recession, as they can be hired easier as they get paid less. It can be easier to justify paying $40,000 to a newbie versus $60,000 for a veteran person. It depends on the industry of course.
As someone who has been on the interviewing side of the table, here are some suggestions:
1- Have a nice clean resume. Nothing too cutesy, nothing too plain. One page is best, maybe 2 pages. Make sure there are to typos or hints at anything controversial.
2- When you are at the interview, be there for the interview. Leave your cell phone in the freaking car or turn it off prior to going in. I've had people answer the phone during interviews and that was pretty much the end of them being considered.
3- Make sure you are presentable. Get a haircut, and have nice clothes.
4- Smile during the interview. Have a nice handshake.
5- Don't be offended about taking tests or things like that. I've had people who refused to take a test during an interview. If you are doing that it shows that you are either a) not a cooperative person or b) don't think you can pass it.
6- If you don't know something, admit it but put out the attitude that you are willing to learn.
7- Be careful about being a job-swapper. Where I work now it's a good way to not even make the interview. If the average time you are at a job is 9 months, many companies won't want to bring you on board because by the time you are trained and useful you will be leaving. If it is companies who had massive layoffs or went out of business, or it was contract work that is different. If that is the case mention it on the resume.
8- If at all possible, center your resume about what you have done to help improve revenues or cut costs.
For the most part, getting seriously considered for a position is not screwing up the resume and interview process.
- ssjbriguy, on 11/10/2008, -2/+13Those are pictures of the people who were interviewed.
RTFA - somesthetic, on 11/10/2008, -0/+11true indeed.
if you want money, don't follow your dreams, learn something useful instead. - Mykonos08, on 11/10/2008, -5/+15The baby boomers are seriously going to make things tough for us young people who are working to pay off their entitlements. What makes me sick is that I know so many who are using their social security checks to buy golf clubs. Seriously, ***** them.
- cmp1966, on 11/10/2008, -0/+10The young and poor are always hit first and hardest. Especially in the current economy which values neither families nor anyone who isn't rich. There aren't nearly as many jobs which pay a living wage as there are people who need them. Jobs today have no interest in paying living wages nor in any way benefitting their communities; they merely want to exploit them. When they can't exploit people here enough, they take the jobs to other countries, particularly ones that have even less safety requirements where they can rape the environment as well as the people. And have you noticed the lovely little "Sun Cities" those whose jobs actually provided retirement benefits for have built? They don't even pays school taxes in a time when our educational systems are in such horrible need! Yet, businesses complain about the education levels of their applicants and the old use it as an excuse to further depress the young.
- AManWithNoName, on 11/10/2008, -4/+14Democrats controlled congress with a slight majority while Bush controlled the executive branch. Most of their time was spent cleaning up after that ***** president, so of course they didn't do much. I'm not saying they did well, I'm saying they could've done better if Bush weren't in office.
And besides, blaming it on all democrats with a blanket statement like that is retarded. I never blame things on 'all republicans', I always specify which republicans suck and which ones don't. Quit being bipartisan, then come back to talk. - AManWithNoName, on 11/10/2008, -1/+10Obama will HELP, if he keeps his promises. Even if he does everything he says he plans to, we, as a society, need to do our fair share as well. If we leave it all to one man, not only will we fail, but we will be unable to walk on our own in the future.
- diggstown, on 11/10/2008, -3/+12Perhaps you should have studied something more viable than philosophy.
- odkin, on 11/10/2008, -4/+13Finally the NY Times fullfills it's destiny, as foretold in the very old joke about a future NY Times headline:
"World Ends; Women, Poor Hit Hardest" - freehunter, on 11/10/2008, -0/+9I am in a similar situation, I'll most likely be losing my job in a month and losing my apartment in two months. My dad was making $300,000 when I was in high school a few years ago, the past year he's been running the business he owns out of his own pocket, losing a steady $5000 a month. He can keep it running for 6 more months before he's out of money. It's a tool and die design firm, and the car makers are just not calling for new designs anymore.
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -0/+9Tell me about it, I went to apply at some local fast food chains for a summer job and found that the a large portion of employees were all senior citizens.....and I've been passed up quiet a few times for middle age employees....in jobs that have traditionally been teen/college...
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -0/+8Hah, I went through the same thing. I'm a senior in a college that was rated by Forbes as one of the best colleges in the country, with a 3.5 GPA, a ton of volunteer work with children and the community, awards, scholarships, a preservice teacher, no criminal or drug background, well groomed, bilingual in Spanish, and I was turned down by 5 fast food chains over the summer, including McDonalds and Taco Bell. Apparently, I'm only good enough to be a teacher and be trusted with the welfare of the nation's children, but not a fry cook....::sigh::
- wazzledoozle2, on 11/10/2008, -3/+11The Fed are to blame for the social security mess. Theoretically, social security should work. Just like a savings account you pay into your whole life. Problem is, every penny in that account has been sucked dry by those bastards in congress.
- xstarsprinklesx, on 11/10/2008, -0/+8Nice try. I've had a bachelor's for 4 years and I still can't find a decent job. No one is hiring.
- sereusx, on 11/10/2008, -1/+8Not if you ***** up and were born into family $$
- whorunbartertwn, on 11/10/2008, -1/+8That's some ***** man here in Phoenix most workers at McDonalds can barely speak English.
- chadadams, on 11/10/2008, -0/+7My first year out of school was heck! I got married right when design school ended and moved into a low cost apartment had my credit cards paid off, no car loans, and just some student debt to pay, and I worked as a contractor as my first post grad job. It lasted one month, at about 15.00/hr, got another 3-month contractor designer gig soon after that with a month in-between (it lasted 6!). Got hired full time as a web-designer after that for about 16, working from home, however the company went under and I worked two months without pay, and no unemployment pay either!
Then came my own personal hell, spent 4 months job hunting, tried call centers and Wal-Mart even, the latter claiming they wanted part time and no degree. As you can guess that drained my credit cars and personal savings rather badly... Worked again (but moved across state) as a design contractor with excellent pay for a month which helped until that contracted ended early as well, and my car committing seppuku going to interviews.
I moved back to my hometown and now work as a full-time web designer and love it! I'm slowly but surely paying those bills down as well as my loans. The point of this story is partly my frustration with this job market, I easily did around 1,000 interviews with companies looking for talented IT people. The real problem is very few are paying excellent wages, livable wages, and sadly many shipping *insert industry* jobs overseas, and that is a scary prospect for college grads. To make matters worse by not going to college you risk even more potential to earn money, or even find a steady job.
I don't blame my college for the crap of last year, I love working in design and it has brought me a livable income, I blame the leaders and the economists who steered this world-leader of a country to a potential third world country by 2020, and the lack of improving educational standards, and the negative view of intelligence and free thinking by our society. - BJF9999, on 11/10/2008, -0/+7Yeah I know where you are coming from... I have an undergrad in business from a good school and I am still looking for a good full time job.
- ButterLoyalist, on 11/10/2008, -0/+7Bush is black?
- kirualeorio, on 11/10/2008, -1/+8If you don't like the check then please donate it to charity.
- vvelox, on 11/10/2008, -3/+10In regards to every one pointing the finger at one specific party, get fragged.
Both parties deserve equal derision for the last decade and a half or so.
Frag them all. Time for a third party. - pinchduck, on 11/10/2008, -2/+9Tens of thousands of white and blue collar workers have lost their jobs in the auto industry. They are now not paying their mortgages, shopping at the corner stores, not paying their credit cards, etc. They are feeling the hardships acutely. The ones that played with excel and didn't do things were gone years ago. These aren't guys who sat around smoking cigars trying to make the hummer less efficient. These are guys who would design, build, and manage the braking systems that keep your family safe, the electronics that keep your vehicle in tune, and the airbags that deploy in a dire emergency. The idiots who demanded that Hummers be made are still in charge, amazingly. The people who worked underneath them are now getting laid off by the thousands.
- Richandler, on 11/10/2008, -0/+7Good thing this whole downturn isn't over, the middle class is going to get their hard hits and all the people making over $250,000 like lawyers, doctors, and small business owners will then get screwed equally when new taxes hit them in economic down turn. Looks kinda like an expanding gap between rich and poor...
Now if only we would let all these corporate shills go under instead of bailing them out we might see a ray of hope. - fluxion, on 11/10/2008, -0/+6on the upside, sonic is probably the more "hip" of the fast food places and tends to have the hottest chicks
- tobikow, on 11/10/2008, -0/+6On a similar note, sell drugs. People in recessions like drugs.
- faithhealer, on 11/10/2008, -1/+7For the past 2 years, the Democrats have has only slim majorities in both houses. And the President can veto any bills he doesn't like. And in the Senate, the Republicans filibuster anything they don't like. That's why the Democrats haven't been able to do as much as they wanted.
Starting the January, they will be able to get a lot more done (although Republicans will still be able to filibuster). - chiefbandit2200, on 11/10/2008, -0/+6Same situation here. No experience.
I'm 18, and have been looking for a job since i was 16. No ***** jobs anywhere. ANYWHERE. It doesn't help living in ***** Michigan either, I guess... - modgirl17, on 11/10/2008, -0/+5dugg for history of the world reference.
- pintomp3, on 11/10/2008, -0/+5LOL, the democrats had a slim non-veto-proof majority in one branch while the republicans had the other two. before that, the republicans had all 3 branchs for 6 years. yet you find a way to blame it all on the democrats?
- diggstown, on 11/10/2008, -4/+9Sad story. When unemployment goes up to 10% though, knowing the difference between there and their might help you differentiate yourself enough get a job. Coherent writing could help too.
- zhaojon, on 11/10/2008, -0/+5Word. It sucks not having a job after going through 4 1/2 years of school at ~$7,000 a year.
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