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- ennTOXX, on 04/14/2008, -6/+142I love it when the World Wide Web gets together & shows what people can do in numbers, though Governments try to shut everything up. I just don't understand why most people are not willing to take these numbers into the streets... :||
- HenvY, on 04/14/2008, -2/+69Horrible pictures, definitely NSFW.
- tburke261, on 04/14/2008, -0/+53Mirror: http://tmichaelburke.com/mirrors/tibet/
- HalfGiraffe, on 04/14/2008, -3/+49Mirror? Wikileaks has sprung a leak (unless it's a DOS attack from the Chinese)
- HyperJack, on 04/14/2008, -0/+45Quick Mirror...
Just download file and open index.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/107512942/tibet.rar
Anyone is welcome to put them in a more accessible place. - bitcloud, on 04/14/2008, -11/+48this made me feel as sick as I did when i first saw the (censored) images from gitmo...
this is unacceptable and anyone who refuses to boycott atleast the opening ceremony gives a nod of approval to these actions in my opinion. - nfulton, on 04/14/2008, -5/+41WHY take it to the streets?
On the streets we can be shot at.
On the streets they have the advantage.
In Cyberspace Millions (billions) matter because they can shut down sites with traffice, raise money, initiate contact with leaders.
The streets are where poor people have wars . . . - Snakedal337, on 04/14/2008, -1/+34Wikileaks went under. Mirrors anyone?
- floort, on 04/14/2008, -11/+42One problem here... most of the gory photos at top are of the same 2 or 3 people. There is more gore than this every day in Iraq. But China must be stopped. No-one but the USA is allowed to invade another country without cause.
- bsdboy, on 04/14/2008, -2/+30Bless you wikileaks
- corfe83, on 04/14/2008, -4/+29"They killed many innocent Chinese, burned shops, caused havoc over there, but yet it is the Chinese that are terrible.."
The Chinese people aren't terrible (my wife is Chinese), it's the Chinese government that's doing this. I think it's important to separate the two.
If the Chinese government were really innocent as you say (only using violence in defense against violent protestors, not harming or imprisoning those who are simply speaking their mind) then the Chinese government would've happily let journalists into the city to confirm the situation. Of course, they didn't. Even before this incident, traveling to "unauthorized" areas of Tibet was not allowed - this has gone on for more than 50 YEARS.
3 years ago I lived in China for 6 months, and I know that speaking your mind publicly (non-violently) is not allowed, especially not in Tibet, Xinjiang, or other sensitive areas.
Pre-emptive replies:
By the way, China gave up all rights to say "don't politicize the Olympics" when they disallowed Taiwan from participating.
Also, for those who say "but America did this..." whatever you're about to say ("Guantanamo", "Iraq", etc.) I probably agree with you. What the US does has nothing to do with what China does; both deserve criticism, and should be criticized independently. - inactive, on 08/11/2008, -1/+23[root@localhost ~]# ping wikileaks.cx
PING wikileaks.cx (88.80.13.160) 56(84) bytes of data.
--- wikileaks.cx ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 6999ms
Uh oh. This is a whole lot more than just the Digg effect... - crowbar77, on 04/14/2008, -0/+21NSFW and definitely don't look at it if you cant stand blood.
- BigManOnCampus, on 04/14/2008, -3/+22mirror for those country-blocked?
- SirPopper, on 04/14/2008, -8/+25Human Rights are important, right?
- Railz, on 04/14/2008, -5/+20Amazing to see the protests taken worldwide over it. Glad the American ones weren't littered with detainment. I would hope the Indian Government would be far more sympathetic.
- Quick2822, on 04/14/2008, -3/+17This makes you wonder how much longer we will have our internet freedom as more and more governments realize that they will lose against the internet, every time.
- compu73rg33k, on 04/14/2008, -0/+12"Quick Mirror...
Just download file and open index.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/107512942/tibet.rar
Anyone is welcome to put them in a more accessible place."
Comment hijack. Originally posted way down: - corfe83, on 04/14/2008, -2/+14All you who are saying "Free Tibet", please note the Dalai Lama isn't asking for an independent country, he's just asking for autonomy and self-rule within the country of China, like they enjoyed back in the Qing dynasty.
It's just too bad the Chinese media doesn't let the Chinese people hear him say this... - orangetiki, on 04/14/2008, -0/+11because some people feel like writing on the internet is enough. and obviously it isn't. The internet is a clique of society. An aspect. It isn't an entire society. that's my guess
- admantor, on 04/14/2008, -5/+15dugg for knowledge
- fmSkewl, on 04/14/2008, -9/+19Yup let's polarize the reporting because one side is always 100% correct. How would you manage the situation given the "peaceful" riots?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLzKBvvGMg
Background story at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/15/tibet. ... - notouch, on 04/14/2008, -2/+11The first few pictures were very bloody and gruesome. But, I counted, assume the images that contains gun shot wounds were Tibetians, it's different photo of 3-4 tibetians. Tibet claim there were hundreds killed, wonder why they couldn't manage to catch a picture of the "flying bullets", and hundred death.
Not saying China's government is innocent or right. Just to tell you, conspiracy comes from both ends. - karan1003, on 04/14/2008, -2/+11Dugg for truth
- DelayedEraser, on 04/14/2008, -3/+12the existence of a god doesn't preclude the existence of evil. that's a really self-indulgent attachment to your statement.
- tomazkovacic, on 04/14/2008, -3/+12http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:YNM4AAnp6ZAJ: ...
google cache has the content and w/ the pics posted above, you can get yourself a clear view of the downed site - terencec, on 04/14/2008, -1/+10digg should implement some kind of title that stands out when there are shocking or NFSW stories... maybe a big red title would work.
Nevertheless, I stopped on the third image, I dare not to go further.. - Jackjoe500, on 04/14/2008, -1/+10Wikileaks just went down what happened?
- 007kz, on 04/14/2008, -0/+9How ironic. What about the censorship that the western media has been implementing? Why's no one complaining about that? I'll tell you why: Because the western media provides footages and information that the people WANT to hear, not footages and info that people NEED to hear.
The western media is doing the EXACT same thing that Chinese media's doing; the only difference is that they're doing it to a way less extent. But is "we're not AS bad as the Chinese media" a good enough excuse? I don't think so.
And before you go all "omg u lie we're a free country teh media wuld never betray us!!!" on me, please go look at some of the footages that the chinese media shows. They're incredibly biased, yes, but they also show a lot of stuff that isn't show, or is rarely shown, on western media. - evilcaptain, on 04/14/2008, -5/+14Sarcasm is easy, right?
- loveddevol, on 04/14/2008, -1/+10if only
- Wrangler76, on 04/15/2008, -3/+11It's funny how in 1989 when 100,000 students marched and hunger striked peacefully only to be slaughtered in the thousands - they world looked on in outrage and gave their support to the protestors. Now, in 2008, when a few thousand Tibetans violently riot, burning down and looting the shops of innocents, stoning and beating innocent people including children, attack police, and force the police to respond with shooting a couple dozen protestors in self-defence while using mostly tear gas, batons and warning shots, the world still looks on in outrage and gives support to the protestors. Good job world community. You've now said to China that no matter what it does and what the protestors do, the Chinese government will always be the ones condemned. The most ironic part? China will NEVER give Tibetans a referendum now since it would be showing other small extremist groups in China that using violence will get them what they want. These violent riots and the subsequent Western support has now increased nationalism and government support amongst a huge number of the Chinese citizens. Now, none of them support the Tibetan cause.
So good job World Community and Tibetan Protestors, you've ***** the Tibetans over. - sovietninja, on 04/14/2008, -1/+9DDOS.
- arclite, on 04/14/2008, -6/+14Reply buried for being either a troll, or a Chinese surrogate pleading the case of a regime that has record on human rights that cannot be adequately described as "horrific". It doesn't matter if these people were "the damn rioters" or not, tear gas and rubber bullets can disperse people even more effectively than batons, and far better than post-riot games of round-up-and-torture.
- terracottapai, on 04/14/2008, -2/+9Yet more proof Diggers suck at detecting sarcasm.
- Wrangler76, on 04/14/2008, -1/+8http://kadfly.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2008 ...
Seems real since he has pictures that no one else has. Interesting is that he notes that people were manipulating the photos he has released (ex: removing the tibetan with the knife)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_unrest_in_Tibet
IT's wikipedia, but hundreds of wiki editors have been working to keep it neutral. It grabbed info from sources like Western tourists and the few Western journalists like Georg Blume and James Miles who were in Lhasa:
http://www.economist.com/daily/news/displaystory.c ...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/20/tibet. ...
I'm glad you ask because there's way too many people (especially on DIgg) who've only been hearing CNN/FOX talk about the "crackdown" in Tibet. It's funny because Blume and Miles both have concluded that a big part of the riots was due to the youth complaining about uneven socioeconomic conditions and ethnic hatred rather than calls for independence, yet the MSM mostly ignores their reports and portrays the riots as the population trying to free themselves from the oppressive communists and running back to the Dalai Lama. They also concluded that in Lhasa at least, the police used minimal force, yet MSM and the Tibetan Exile Gov't will always spread around pictures of a few people shot (for which of course there's going to be a biased caption). Honestly, if the police wanted to, they could've mowed down the crowd of a few hundred with guns and ended the looting/burning but didn't because the Olympics are coming up and they don't want some international outrage for stopping violent looters using guns.. - guiltyblade, on 04/14/2008, -6/+13Insane that this is going on. Even more insane that our current president could give a ***** less, but rather start another useless war.
- TheRealToma, on 04/15/2008, -1/+8Why use root to ping someone :|
- sgtpppr, on 04/14/2008, -0/+7We also need to build a moon base, holodecks, and break the speed of light. Doesn't mean it'll happen overnight by saying it.
- terencec, on 04/14/2008, -5/+12I completely disagree with your viewpoint, and I think that being Chinese is more than enough to back myself up.
One question for you khail, why CANT hey ask for independence? does 700 years mean anything. Just because they were literally forced into being part of China does not grant the China the right to prevent the tibetians in seeking their own interests, and neither does 700 years grant China the right to censor everything that is going on in Tibet.
By the way, if you are claiming that you are coming from an American perspective, and that "we" (as in Americans I assume) only know 10% of what the place is really like. Who are you to judge the actions and opinions of others? I mean, how would you know that the "PROTESTERS" (not protectors as you spelt it) were violent? How do you judge a government that says nothing but "the situation is under control?" Censorship kills, remember the SARS situation several years back? It is because the Chinese government that kept everything under wraps which caused Asia, and parts of North America to live under constant fear. - Hetman, on 04/14/2008, -1/+7They agreed after all the mexicans and indians were either killed or shipped south.
- corfe83, on 04/14/2008, -4/+10"I was talking to a friend about this issue, and he told me he noticed the bashers are the ones never been to China, never bother to looked up the history and full story behind the whole riot thing."
FYI: I lived in China for 6 months, have visited many times besides, and my wife is Chinese (from the PRC).
I don't think that it's OK for ANY government to ban all foreign journalists from a city, send soldiers and tanks there, and claim that "the protestors were so violent, we are just trying to preserve the peace". Why would you ban the very journalists who could confirm your story? Why have journalists been banned from most of Tibet for the past 50 years, for that matter?
I don't see how any reasonable person educated in politics can not be outraged at this.
Yes, I'm outraged at many things the US (and other countries) do too, but that's a separate issue. - pighead77, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6First, I'm a mainland born Chinese living in USA for 10 years. Don't want to pretend to be American or any other nationals. And almost certainly I'll be marked down because my post isn't going to be popular -- well I accept that just like 5 years ago saying not going to wage war against Iraq was not patriotic by majority population's view and deemed extremely unpopular.
One-sided media propaganda is always harmful. I challenge everyone of you before throwing rotten tomatos and angrily asking "How dare you speak for Chinese government...", please spend at least 30 minutes reading through some readers and experts comments about Tibet/China affairs on PBS network:
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=68073&p ...
I know many of you have never ever been to China, let alone visiting Tibet; yet some people here acting like the subject experts, which is very concerning even if this is individual bassis; certainly disastraous if this is reflecting on the nation as a whole.
Jin - Buddhaismybuddy, on 04/14/2008, -11/+17Free Tibet!
- dexter411, on 04/14/2008, -5/+11What's scary is how the American education system has failed you so completely...
- InspectorGadget, on 04/14/2008, -0/+6Oh, the irony.
- evilcaptain, on 04/14/2008, -5/+11addendum:
They obviously are NOT important.
Let's measure how far you can jump over some sand. Prffft!
Nonsense! - roboticrickshaw, on 04/14/2008, -0/+5What an idiotic comment.
- tomazkovacic, on 04/14/2008, -4/+9Thx for the mirror buddy!
Horrifing photos! FREE TIBET! -
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