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- scoottie, on 10/27/2009, -0/+10The US has plans in Iraq?
- AmazingA, on 10/27/2009, -1/+6Until the end of 2011, not indefinitely.
"However, up to 50,000 of 142,000 troops now there will stay until the end of 2011 to advise Iraqi forces and protect US interests, he said."
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7916339.stm
Take anything your brain tells you with a grain of salt. - joaquine, on 10/27/2009, -0/+5The more U.S. babysits Iraq it will get worse. Let them protect and defend themselves. Time to take the training wheels off.
- iridesce, on 10/27/2009, -2/+6" It's unlikely that the attackers were sending a message to President Obama, but if they were, they've failed in that too. It is no longer in the White House's power to significantly alter the withdrawal timetable, which was set by the Status of Forces Agreement that the Bush Administration concluded with al-Maliki."
That's right, our federal government has a great record of following such agreements. - Mujokan, on 10/27/2009, -0/+4There's no reason it should change US policy.
- judicar, on 10/27/2009, -0/+3Do you have an references of instances where the U.S has violated a SOFA?
- BotchaMcCoola, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2So that will be OK with the Sunnis then?
- DirtPile, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2Maliki-liki-moka is a wise way to say Merry Christmas to you, and to the President of Iraq.
- rizzo2008, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2Its got a freakin' pool!
- ajkrik, on 10/27/2009, -1/+3Bad ***** has been happening in Iraq for decades. A lot more people died when Saddam was running the show. But! Because US troops are there, the media cover bombings and killings. It will still be there after our troops leave, it's just that the US media will be on to some other crusade of "news". So, let's just get the hell out as we should have in 2004.
- SkinnerBox, on 10/27/2009, -1/+3I take severe umbrage at your attempt to tacitly coarsen the national dialog through the chilling effect of community censorship.
Or rather, way to contribute to the dumbing down of America, douchebag. - acknotSW, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2Option one will happen the instant the rest of the world figures out how do without their oil, until then......
- 23Diggs, on 10/27/2009, -1/+3I think that the fundamental problem with the Iraq - US situation is that the US is so disconnected from the Middle East culture and what and how people in the middle east, far east, etc. are motivated, what's important to them and how they view their world on a day to day basis. Until the US understands and comes to terms with these differences there will never be a meeting of the minds or a solution. I think that the best way to bring about change in the middle east is to create a mechanism for them to be able to support themselves in a way that makes sense to them. The US needs to be an innovative leader by aligning itself with their culture instead of shoving our ideals down their throat. I realize we need to protect our investment there, but there is a better solution.
- rrife, on 10/27/2009, -1/+3Yes and we used the [over used South Park reference] plan of 1. Invade, 2. ????, 3. Profit. Step 2 has changed a few times.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2As much as Al Qaeda would love to reignite the sectarian hatred in Iraq, neither party has anything to gain from such violence. The Shia don't need violence to stay in power, they have the democratic votes. The only reason for the Sunnis to pick up arms again would be to protect themselves against Shia violence, but the most violent of Shia have already been taken out of commission when Maliki kicked Sadr's butt all the way to Iran.
- thcobbs, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1So, you're saying we should stay the course?
- neoauteur, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1Why wasted their bombs, I am not sure.
- roodammy44, on 10/28/2009, -0/+1Business speak is dumbing down America just as much as the 'hey scro, you got a min' talk.
http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/engli ...
If you feel like getting to know the English language, read this essay by George Orwell.
Long, unnecessary and complicated words make things hard to understand and horrible to read. Language should be short, clear and to the point and longer, less well known words should only be used if they have something to contribute to the dialogue.
If we keep using unnecessary and pointless words instead of simple ones in order to make ourselves appear more intelligent, the result is a race to *****.
In short - don't try to out grammar-nazi me, SkinnerBox :-) - harpoonhank420, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1why would they decide? The shiite have massive numerical superiority and may dominate the upcoming election
- gizram84, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1Barack Obama cannot perform miracles. It's not like he can decide when to pull the troops out. Why is everyone expecting him to fix everything so fast? Let's give him a few more years. He'll be a better president during his second term after he gets some experience under his belt.
- rizzo2008, on 10/27/2009, -4/+5When will you all get it into your heads that Obama never promised a permanent withdrawal from Iraq...he even said he will keep a contingent of 50,000 soldiers there indefinitely so of course this won't change his plans
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/washington/26tro ... - BotchaMcCoola, on 10/27/2009, -4/+5The Sunnis will decide that.
- regeya, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1For raisins in heaven, I'm sure.
- Mujokan, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1Withdraw 90% of it.
- Fleagleman, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1The troop withdrawal 'timetable'. Yes, yes of course. I'm using the same timetable to rake the leaves in our front yard, because it's my favorite thing to do.
- iridesce, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE53P1ST2009042 ...
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2009/06/european-com ...
just what I was able to find in a couple of minutes of searching - Lefts, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1Sometimes, I wish America could just be an ***** and leave Iraq to the dogs. After all, why should America care? Iraq isn't America.
But then we wouldn't have been there in the first place. - roodammy44, on 10/27/2009, -1/+1I agree with your main points, but didn't give you a digg because of the business-speak. People don't talk like that in real life.
- Quaterni0n, on 10/27/2009, -1/+1There are other alternatives. Such as the status quo. A lovely quagmire with no end in sight. You can't stop that many people from wanting to destroy eachother overnight. Unless you like being in the crossfire, just leave the kids alone until they grow up.
Maybe I'm just a realist who doesn't live in la la land. - SchmuckofNI, on 10/27/2009, -2/+2I highly doubt we will ever really be completely out of Iraq. Seriously, look how huge the U.S embassy is there: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www. ...
Need I say more? - thcobbs, on 10/27/2009, -1/+1So, because you don't particularly like an option is shouldn't be counted as one?
Now, who's living in la la land... and there's still more after that other one you picked... Including dividing the country, oil wealth payments directly to citizens, etc... etc... ad nausea. - thcobbs, on 10/27/2009, -1/+1Obviously, you don't understand the logical fallacy of a false dichotomy.
- Quaterni0n, on 10/27/2009, -5/+3The situation in the middle east will never change. They've been fighting for generations and will continue to do so for many more, with or without our involvement.
The way I see it, there are only 2 valid options:
- Completely leave the area and stop all humanitarian aid. You guys want to keep your ***** up, well ***** you. Kill yourselves off if you want to. We're cutting off all ties and communication with you. If you want aid, then grow the ***** up.
- A world war ending with a completely crushing defeat of those countries. Send them back to the dark ages.
Obviously, the first option is more sensible.
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