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- newprohibition, on 01/24/2008, -68/+28[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology]
- Rhythmix, on 01/24/2008, -8/+13[This reply is no longer available due to exploding yellow vans and overloaded buses by the Church of Scientology International.]
- fkr3, on 01/24/2008, -7/+3[This 'war' no longer available due to 'fighters' finding an even lazier way to participate .... no mouse click instead of one]
- Nitesmoke, on 01/24/2008, -1/+206pm tonight. I hope they have their DC8's ready.
- stoanhart, on 01/24/2008, -4/+60[That comment is no longer funny, due to overuse on all Scientology stories]
- LilJimmyNordin, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Writing it off as a joke is a mistake. The CoS routinely censors dissentious speech, and rarely leaves a trace as clear and evident as the one people are posting. It's a good reminder of what Anon is fighting against.
- treeflappa, on 01/24/2008, -2/+5They have copyrighted words?? Control freaks
- CoolWind, on 01/24/2008, -10/+8After you crush Co$, who's next?
Ever heard of live and let live? Ever heard of mind your own business?- williamdyer, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6The neocons are next. Any other questions?
- RAEP, on 01/24/2008, -1/+5I agree, let's just ignore all of the world issues. It isn't our business to try and bring down an exploitative money hungry cult who brainwashes their members and threatens any opposition with legal action or otherwise. I mean it's their choice right?
- s810, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Hey guys I heard Hal Turner was back on the e-air.
er.. wait , nvm
http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/
*cough*- cardyology, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Ever heard of freedom of speech?
- s810, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1yeah i read about it in the history books.
- cardyology, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Ever heard of freedom of speech?
- smacksaw, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2You could always go to /b/, ask your question there and leave your contact info and get that answered for you.
- blunted, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Christianty.
Insane clown posse fans.
Then YOU....
...mwahahaha!! - cyberoidx, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Apple Fanboys.
- brundlefly76, on 01/25/2008, -3/+1y'know, all this tom cruise stuff had me reading up a bit on the theories of Scientology.
And although iI have no personal interest in becoming a member, I really didn't seem there is any reason to vilify it more then any other religion.
In fact, I don't think most people who criticize it even know much about it except that it involves alien mythology and requires monetary contributions from members.
and Tom Cruise, everyone gets all over his *****, even though all these actors who actually know him personally (including Oprah) call him one of the nicest people they know. And everyone gets on his case by calling him gay and attacking his faith - seems like both are his personal preference and not a character flaw.- smacksaw, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2hahahahaha nice try $cientologist spy
- Shege, on 01/25/2008, -0/+0Damn dude, you dont have a clue. They brainwash people and force them to give up their life savings, prevent them from using any type of western medicine and also cut of their members from the rest of their families so that if they eventually come to their senses they will have no where to run. You should look up Lisa McPherson and other scientology related deaths. The other thing concerning these fatalities is that the victims usually have an empty bank account around the time of their death.
- arplayer2k, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Scientology can SUCK ON MEI SPICY MEAT BALLZ.
- arplayer2k, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1That is what I will let them do. Just this once. As for the war, enough soldiers. Fight hard, fight dirty.
- Rhythmix, on 01/24/2008, -8/+13[This reply is no longer available due to exploding yellow vans and overloaded buses by the Church of Scientology International.]
- niggerachi, on 01/24/2008, -27/+13xenu
- Battleloser, on 01/24/2008, -7/+4lol
- goplastic, on 01/24/2008, -52/+10[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology]
- falafelkiosken, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4[This joke is no longer funnu]
- d00ter, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1[This joke was funny 48 hours ago]
- Nionignite, on 01/24/2008, -11/+43needs moar xenu
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -1/+9"We have not enough Xenu!"
"More Xenu is required!"- Dokument, on 01/24/2008, -2/+7Spawn more Xenu's
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1"Our Xenu is running low"
Okay, that one sucked...
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1"Our Xenu is running low"
- artofwar420, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Digg me down to oblivion, but I think we shouldn't limit ourselves to Scientology.
- Dokument, on 01/24/2008, -2/+7Spawn more Xenu's
- LilJimmyNordin, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2I gotta fevah... and the only prescription is moah Xenu!
- Boor, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Must construct additional Xenu?
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -1/+9"We have not enough Xenu!"
- zerosuit, on 01/24/2008, -9/+43Collect them all!
http://digg.com/search?s=scientology&submit=Search ...- Teh_Shiz, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6How can one help?
I've got free processesssss
- Teh_Shiz, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6How can one help?
- Kakama, on 01/24/2008, -9/+22http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology
- pirloui, on 01/24/2008, -15/+4Seed.
- Amadeus2490, on 01/24/2008, -36/+7I refuse to get involved with anything having to do with Scientology, including this mess; too immature for me.
I'll still be making lots of great Diggs and comments on this site, though so don't miss me too much.- fkr3, on 01/24/2008, -11/+8They won't miss you... plenty of idiots out there willing to "fight" with their "mouse button".... brave, brave people making the ultimate sacrifice - a mouse click. In hindsight mouse clicks were always destined to be the ultimate weapon against cults..... /sarcasm
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Well, I just had a nice conversation with a 'personality tester' about their cult. They asked me what my name is at one point; I said "Anonymous; just like every other person you're likely to meet from now on."
- fkr3, on 01/24/2008, -6/+3Wow.... that'll learn 'em.
- LilJimmyNordin, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2***** you, idiot. The point is that for every Anon that ties up their lines for a few minutes, that's one more weak, desperate person that can't get through to be brainwashed, possibly giving them another day to find a PROPER solution to their problems. Being an obnoxious sarcastic *****-talker doesn't help ANYONE. Go drink bleach.
- Fordi, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2I didn't state the whole conversation. The tester got pretty pissed by the point when he asked what my name was.
I don't know. It may not have helped much, but I feel a little bit of morale destruction is always helpful.
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Well, I just had a nice conversation with a 'personality tester' about their cult. They asked me what my name is at one point; I said "Anonymous; just like every other person you're likely to meet from now on."
- DestroyFascism, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Gimme a ***** tissue!
- fkr3, on 01/24/2008, -11/+8They won't miss you... plenty of idiots out there willing to "fight" with their "mouse button".... brave, brave people making the ultimate sacrifice - a mouse click. In hindsight mouse clicks were always destined to be the ultimate weapon against cults..... /sarcasm
- donsnyc, on 01/24/2008, -7/+30laughing.
- Dokument, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1i think you meant "lol ing" or due to the recent "lol" epidemic article. "loi ing"
- s810, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1in b4 corruption
- Dokument, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1i think you meant "lol ing" or due to the recent "lol" epidemic article. "loi ing"
- Ramble, on 01/24/2008, -29/+42No, because it is a bad idea. Oppress a religion/cult and it gets sympathy, disseminate information peacefully and it gets none. What you are doing is making Scientology stronger.
- ubergeek09, on 01/24/2008, -5/+49Scientology doesn't get much sympathy, hopefully anon will expose Scientology's many disgusting crimes.. See if it can get sympathy then.
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -21/+0care to list these crimes?
- MacEnvy, on 01/24/2008, -1/+21No need, many others have. Start here:
http://www.xenu.net/ - LilJimmyNordin, on 01/24/2008, -1/+9I love a guy that posts "care to list these crimes?" like it's our responsibility to educate him in the comments section of a Digg article, not his responsibility to seek education (which, in this case, is abundant and easy to find). Snotty indifference is part of the problem here, and the soil in which nonsense like Scientology flourishes.
- MacEnvy, on 01/24/2008, -1/+21No need, many others have. Start here:
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -21/+0care to list these crimes?
- rpayne656, on 01/24/2008, -0/+26It's not really the ethical thing to do, no, but I don't believe they'll gain sympathy. This isn't a government coming down on them and restricting their freedoms. This is the people rising up against exploitation of their fellow man. Now, if only we'd do this for other BETTER causes as well...
- zephc, on 01/24/2008, -1/+6We gotta put our ethics in them before Tom Cruise puts his ethics in *us*. He won't hesitate.
- dinot, on 01/24/2008, -12/+7It's funny how a rabid group of people foaming at the mouths with an ideology are planning a full scale internet war on another rabid group of people foaming at the mouths with an ideology!
***** hell. my team vs your team. my country vs. your country. my political affiliation vs. your political affiliation. this mentality is what makes bad ***** happen in the world.- salomejones, on 01/24/2008, -2/+7Except one group murders innocent people and buys off law enforcement to get away with it. The other one doesnt. There comes a time when your high-road ethic just doesn't stand the test of reality anymore.
- directive0, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2The other one is pretty deplorable too. I dunno about you guys, but I don't want any-nonamous coming over to my house for dinner.
- salomejones, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1Yeah thats right, dig me down, but don't bother trying to make a counterpoint. "this mentality is what makes bad ***** in the world happen"? That gets digs?
I think the problem is a bit less with what scientology is doing and a bit more with the general literacy and analytical skills of people at large.
- dafragsta, on 01/24/2008, -3/+4I say ***** all religions. Down with religions, up with spirituality. Religions are for suckers who think they are right and everyone else is wrong. If everyone else is wrong, you're wrong too. I think even athiests can accept spirituality as a fair alternative to sanctioned brainwashing.
- salomejones, on 01/24/2008, -2/+7Except one group murders innocent people and buys off law enforcement to get away with it. The other one doesnt. There comes a time when your high-road ethic just doesn't stand the test of reality anymore.
- illegalcortex, on 01/24/2008, -2/+4Yeah, we see how poorly the oppression option worked in Waco. Now you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a half-dozen Branch Davidians...
- Malevolant, on 01/24/2008, -0/+33The OP's comment might apply to other "religions" but there is no proof of Scientology getting any sympathy from anyone other than their cult members.
I dated a scientologist for 2 years and so I know a lot and I will never have sympathy for them. Everything out there about it is true.
She tried to convert me over at every opportunity.
She said I should go multiple times a week which equated to over $1000's a month.
She was 100% sure she, and they, had all of the answers and no one else has a clue.
She was suicidal before she became one of them so she credits them for her being alive.
She tried to use her methods to control me and she failed miserably, hence our breakup.
Honestly, I hate to admit it, but I only put up with it because she was smoking hot, no joke. After a while the hottest women in the world couldn't get you to hook up with her, while constantly spouting the scientologist crap.
IMO scientology is a cult and preys on the week minded. She had past issues, was suicidal, and found them. Her life is now dedicated to them. What's really sad is they pay her a ridiculously low amount of money to do "sessions" for them, yet the people at the top of this pyramid scheme make bank.
Cults like this should not have tax free status and they should be done away with.
A little extra info on how ridiculous it is -
I gave her the chance to prove it worked to me, one time. She tried to "audit" me. They have this b.s. contraption they call a meter and it's extremely low tech and not based on anything, scientifically speaking. It has two cans(red bull cans with the labels buffed off), that you hold in each hand. They are connected to a meter that is supposed to measure your "charge" as they put it which means stress, etc. Then all they do is ask you questions until they see a jump on the needle. This means you have charge so they ask you the same thing over and over and over until the needle "floats". That, to them, means you have overcome the charge. It's pretty much a pile of B.S., but plenty eat it up.- EdwardsNH, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7Pretty sure that "meter" is a crude lie detector... seriously
- brainbox, on 01/25/2008, -0/+8Not really, because "real" polygraphs don't "detect lies" either. They detect some physiological signs of stress, which are equated by their operators as being signs of lying. Or, in the case of a Scientology auditor, as being signs of having the ghost of a dead alien stuck to you.
I'm fairly sure the e-meter is just an ohm-meter, measuring the effective resistance of your skin/body between your two hands. The dials and controls just fiddle with the range/gain so they can perceive some movement in the needle.
- brainbox, on 01/25/2008, -0/+8Not really, because "real" polygraphs don't "detect lies" either. They detect some physiological signs of stress, which are equated by their operators as being signs of lying. Or, in the case of a Scientology auditor, as being signs of having the ghost of a dead alien stuck to you.
- wentwj, on 01/25/2008, -2/+2ironically almost all the points you made regarding scientology I could make about my catholic ex-gf.
Is Catholicism the next target of Anon? I sure hope so! I'd rather see them take down one of the bigger religions before going after what is mostly an already laughed at one.- Lewie, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1I think mormons would be next (they are the most cult-like), and other evangelical groups. You never see Catholics running around trying to convert people...except for the poor on missionaries. But odds are they'll follow any belief that offers them help.
- EdwardsNH, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7Pretty sure that "meter" is a crude lie detector... seriously
- mrxenon15999, on 01/24/2008, -5/+0Nice try Co$ boy. Pretending to be a critic and saying "don't do that, it's not effective, it helps them!" is a common tactic to shut down effective opposition.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2"Set a thetan trap for Tom Cruise, send him back to a level 4."
Priceless. - UrinalPooper, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2At least now we know Isaac Hayes' username.
- Ramble, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Actually I hate Scientology, I just don't think being a jackarse is going to help.
- nydwarf, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1It's a good idea! Expose it and ASSASSINATE! This is a criminal organization it shouldn't be allowed to just go away.
- smacksaw, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Yeah, the more we report on what Israel is doing the more sympathy they get worldwide.
- TheMachine1, on 01/25/2008, -1/+0Yeah Christians in the early days often choose publicly to die a brutal death when all they had do
is denounce it and walk away free. A lot non-Christians were impressed with the "strength" that might be in Christianity. More stories on atheism and less threads on Scientology is what me need.
- ubergeek09, on 01/24/2008, -5/+49Scientology doesn't get much sympathy, hopefully anon will expose Scientology's many disgusting crimes.. See if it can get sympathy then.
- goyney, on 01/24/2008, -17/+126I heard Tom Cruise had sex with a 5 1/4 floppy and the resulting embarrassment was the MacBook Air. Can anyone confirm?
- ubergeek09, on 01/24/2008, -1/+50Yeah that was confirmed.
- Doompuppet, on 01/24/2008, -32/+14Holy crap people, stop spamming digg with stupid anti-scientology *****. This is not a 'war" is a bunch of children DDoSing a website and making up "raids" that will never happen. GET OVER IT! I would like one day without 4 stories on each page about this idiocy.
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -10/+7100 diggs to you sir.
I rather watch star trek fans bicker over the term trekkie or trekker- Doompuppet, on 01/24/2008, -8/+6It seems we are getting dugg down.
The under 14 group has outnumbered us it seems.
- Doompuppet, on 01/24/2008, -8/+6It seems we are getting dugg down.
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -1/+7A bunch of 'children' that wield a lot of power in the form of knowledge. No one's released so many of their ridiculous 'scriptures' since Operation Clambake, no one's gotten this kind of publicity without having been 'fair gamed', and no one's been able to take so many Scientology-shilling websites since the creation of the internet.
- Nick22, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4Dude, these are the same people that managed to track down a pedophile and have him arrested. The same people that got on national news for bomb threats. The same people that took down a white supremist and his stupid little show. These arnt just a bunch of script kiddie prepubescent boys with no balls.
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -10/+7100 diggs to you sir.
- swrostmore, on 01/24/2008, -18/+4get ur marching orders from http://www.4chan.org
- littlebylittle, on 01/24/2008, -15/+7I'm going to make harassing phone calls to all my friends and neighbors! ...
Wait. What? Never mind. No I'm not.- littlebylittle, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Just trying to inject some humor.
- DivisibleByZero, on 01/24/2008, -21/+7Absolutely none. It's not my place to judge other peoples' religions. Even if I think it's crazy. That's the same reasons fanatical Muslums hate Christians and Jews.
- jizzypop, on 01/24/2008, -5/+4i can't believe this is getting dugg down. DIGG LOVES OPPRESSION!!!
- buckrogers1965, on 01/24/2008, -0/+7Help, help, I'm being oppressed!
- blunted, on 01/25/2008, -0/+0or why fanatical christian and jews hate muslims. And they all hate fun.
- jizzypop, on 01/24/2008, -5/+4i can't believe this is getting dugg down. DIGG LOVES OPPRESSION!!!
- KingGorilla, on 01/24/2008, -12/+15I'll be an ***** for the greater good!
- SemiSarcastic, on 01/24/2008, -1/+17That's how we roll in America.
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -19/+10
Very stupid guys. A fight for the sake of fighting? I wish you put this much energy in making the world a better place, but your bickering just adds more noise to that signal.
live and let live- InfinitySnatch, on 01/24/2008, -2/+7But what if they live and let die?
- Pamphleteer, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5What does it matter to you? When you've got a job to do you've got to do it well - you've got to give the other fellow HEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL.
- fkr3, on 01/24/2008, -6/+3The problem is they can't find any other way to convert their energy into effort without leaving a chair..... the only way they could do some good is if some rich chump offered to donate money to a charity if the kidiots click a button a trillion times.
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -1/+4Guess you've never heard of a 'lever' before.
- frontporsche, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2So you must be reading these digg comments with your cell phone while out jogging. Surely you wouldn't waste precious time in a chair in front of the screen.
- keithc01, on 01/24/2008, -22/+3This is getting really gay.
- keithc01, on 01/24/2008, -6/+4Yeah, bury away. It's like your trying to start one cult to fight another. It's weird. But if you are all in fact teenagers, rock on.
- MacEnvy, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Personally, I buried you for not making a contribution to the discussion. Just FYI.
I dislike Microsoft, but if someone left a one sentence comment calling them "gay" for something they did I'd bury that one too. Expand your vocabulary at least.
- MacEnvy, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Personally, I buried you for not making a contribution to the discussion. Just FYI.
- keithc01, on 01/24/2008, -6/+4Yeah, bury away. It's like your trying to start one cult to fight another. It's weird. But if you are all in fact teenagers, rock on.
- drmobutu, on 01/24/2008, -7/+22Bemused Spectator.
- PhilMoskowitz, on 01/24/2008, -5/+2Bemused Spectator 2.
- TygerTyger, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-Inigo Montoya
- SemiSarcastic, on 01/24/2008, -8/+12playing videos games and apathetically watching this incident pass me by into history...Just like the Writers Strike.
- Parlay, on 01/24/2008, -9/+21United as one
Divided by zero
in b4 barrel roll ***** or GTFO - soot, on 01/24/2008, -11/+12DO YOUR PART
- XeroRestraint, on 01/24/2008, -19/+18I won't lower myself by joining a religion-based persecution. Don't get me wrong, I think the Church of Scientology are a bunch of crazed zealots but I know at least my country was founded to allow crazed zealots the right to worship as they please.
Still it sure would be nice if they all came to their senses and abandoned the mother ship.- jkgm, on 01/24/2008, -1/+10It isn't about worshipping anything. It's about taking people's livelihoods and dangling an ever-further carrot of immortality* and power.
* well, 6 bajillion years is close enough to immortal for me.- XeroRestraint, on 01/24/2008, -3/+2Your point is well taken however, from a Constitutional perspective, they *are* a religion and as such are granted the same rights and protections. I wholeheartedly agree that there is a very real and corrupting aspect to their methods but I will not loose sight of the fact that to conspire against them as a whole amounts to religious persecution.
- wentwj, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1How do people say ***** like this with a straight face? Really? Your problem with scientology is that it pretends it can give people a long lifespan. You DAMN well better not be christian if you're babbling about crap like that.
Christianity is the real scam artist here, much older, and got their ***** down a LOT better.
- gcnaddict, on 01/24/2008, -2/+13Any organization demanding mandatory payment to be a part of the religion is not a religion. All religious persecution is now no longer religious persecution but simply persecution. In addition, the only targets are the people running the scheme, not the people who are victims of ot.
- XeroRestraint, on 01/24/2008, -4/+1Either my sarcasm detector failed to go off, or you just made up your own definition of religion. And your comment about "targeting" is ludicrous you are obviously unable to see cause-effect and part-whole relationships. Or are just using that comment as a cop out defense for bigotry.
- jizzypop, on 01/24/2008, -5/+3well, Christianity makes you pay a tithe, so lets persecute them too right? you might say that tithing isnt 'mandatory', some christians will argue it is mandatory, but even if it isnt nobody is holding a gun to these scientologist's head's to make them pay. so whats the difference?
- pentalive, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3I am a Christian. They do not "make" you pay a tithe. Go into any Christian church - learn the whole of the gospel for free. Tithe if you want. Leave any "Christian" church where you are expected to pay for your salvation.
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -0/+7"I won't lower myself by joining a religion-based persecution."
Well, it's a good thing that we're attempting to dismantle a con-game masking itself as a religion, then, isn't it? I'm sure the followers are sincere, and they're fine. The leaders of scientology, however, know exactly what's going on - make it go on - and need stopped. - solid12345, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Why do you all even give a ***** about them conning people? People get conned all the time. My cousin tried to con me into an Amway pyramid scheme, but guess what, I wasn't retarded enough to get in on it. Am I going to go out and blow up Amway HQ? No. I have the will power to just not be a part of it.
- Fordi, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2And we have laws against con games. And they're not being enforced against this con of a cult. So, someone has to do something.
- jkgm, on 01/24/2008, -1/+10It isn't about worshipping anything. It's about taking people's livelihoods and dangling an ever-further carrot of immortality* and power.
- JDigital01, on 01/24/2008, -17/+12I see articles on digg declaring world peace and ending the war in Iraq, and then I see article posts like this...
It is a direct contradiction. World peace begins within ones self and continues as peace is extended to one another. It does not happen when people put each other down. Hatred and war ALWAYS happen when people attack each other because they are different or have different beliefs. Look at history. Let people believe as they will and you will find peace. Leave Scientology and other faiths alone. Let them believe as they will believe. (And no, I am not a Scientologist, just someone who has respect for other people...THAT is where peace begins).- init100, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6Unfortunately, there will be no world peace until either Scientology is history, due to the aggressiveness of the Church of Scientology.
- illegalcortex, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Did it maybe occur to you that digg has a userbase larger than one person and that maybe what you're seeing are responses from more than one person?
By your own argument, I have to call you a hypocrite. You just posted claiming you respect other people, yet I see so many comments on digg where diggers aren't respecting other people. What's up with that? - anonymous1986, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately you seem to believe in a world where fairies and santa claus exists.....
- init100, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6Unfortunately, there will be no world peace until either Scientology is history, due to the aggressiveness of the Church of Scientology.
- FyodorD, on 01/24/2008, -21/+12I'm amazed to see so many xenophobic, bigoted and outright hateful people on Digg. Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, but goddam - give it a break! Live and let live. Aren't there enough "real" problems in the world right now?
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -7/+3well said!
- InfinitySnatch, on 01/24/2008, -7/+1Yes. This is one.
- rpayne656, on 01/24/2008, -6/+2DoS genocide!
- enosp, on 01/24/2008, -3/+11correction
XENU-phobic - jkgm, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Isn't the whole basis of Scientology about Xenophobia?!?
- zephc, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3If anything, the Scientologists are the xenophobes, trying to get rid of alien souls (Thetans) stuck to their bodies.
- cozb, on 01/24/2008, -7/+3well said!
- whittmadden, on 01/24/2008, -15/+12How about ignore it? Because that's what I'm doing.
- Pamphleteer, on 01/24/2008, -3/+11Obviously.
- baldgye, on 01/24/2008, -9/+4i'll digg
- vade79, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1The digg button itself pretty much sums that part up.
- cygnus183, on 01/24/2008, -7/+11Maybe it's intentional, but that sounds like Scientology tactics.
- 22pages, on 01/24/2008, -6/+46Want to seriously disrupt scientology? Nothing works like a good old boycott.
Someone should compile a big list of actors, musicians, companies etc. that are friendly to scientology. They should identify all the movies, bands, products and the like they put out. If you hate scientology, stop buying those products.
Let's face it, if ties to scientology kill your career, fewer people will join and celebrity recruiting will become a lot harder.- belly917, on 01/24/2008, -5/+2Well said. This is a much better option. DDoS & black faxes are immature and ineffectual in "bringing down scientology"
A boycott or educating the public in a peaceful manner are much better options- williamdyer, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9Why not both? Scientology is a cancer on humankind. Do whatever it takes.
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6Though, they are good at getting people's attention. The news reports on that *****, after all. And hell, it's inspired ideas like a good old fashioned boycott.
- Bulletbillx, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9A list has been done. check out these wikipedia articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologist ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_celeb ... - anonymous1986, on 01/24/2008, -0/+8How about we punch tom cruise in the face everytime we see him?
- buckrogers1965, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Instead of a punch, throw pies!
- anonymous1986, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2I reckon a punch would hurt a lot more, but then again a hot, straight-from-the-oven pie could burn his face, hmm gonna take some time to choose!
- buckrogers1965, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Instead of a punch, throw pies!
- skippyoh, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1I say spam websites like tmz.com and www.perezhilton.com tell them to spread the word!
- belly917, on 01/24/2008, -5/+2Well said. This is a much better option. DDoS & black faxes are immature and ineffectual in "bringing down scientology"
- arbulus, on 01/24/2008, -16/+25I'll be happy to see Scientology fall. But what I really want to see is Christianity fall. Now there's a war I will be on the front lines of.
- SemiSarcastic, on 01/24/2008, -3/+11it's the way Jesus would of wanted it.
- williamdyer, on 01/24/2008, -2/+10What would Jesus do? He would not, and did not, start a church.
- kilofox, on 01/24/2008, -3/+21) Maybe
2) Aint gonna happen - tmlee, on 01/24/2008, -5/+3Christians may be evil, but I don't think the teachings of Christianity are evil. But I'll definitely be at the front line against any person/people using religion or ideals to persecute and ostracize others. We need to be cautious in our promotion of freedom of ideals not to become hypocrites.
- rotundo, on 01/25/2008, -0/+7As an atheist who has done a lot of research on this -- please stop wanting Christianity to fall. Firstly, because that is what mobilizes them. Throughout history whenever they were attacked they came back stronger. Secondly, it's hypocritical: the only real problem with Christians and their ideas are that some Christians _try_to_push_ their views _on_others_. Which is exactly what you're doing.
Instead, let them do what they want with their lives and organizations. And you do what you want with yours. Educate people about personal liberty and the principle of live-and-let-live.- wentwj, on 01/25/2008, -3/+2That may be what you find is the only real problem with christianity. And It is a large problem. However my BIGGEST problem with Christianity, or more so ALL religions is faith. Religions celebrate faith, the notion that people should be encouraged and praised for believing something with little to no evidence. In fact if someone has faith in light of counter evidence this is praised MORE. This is the most dangerous aspect of any religion because it is entirely counter to reason, which is necessary to advance the world into a state where we stop blowing each other up for stupid reasons.
- NinjaJoey, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1I'm an atheist as well. But telling someone that they're wrong won't get them to change their mind. They have to decide to do that.
- wentwj, on 01/25/2008, -3/+2That may be what you find is the only real problem with christianity. And It is a large problem. However my BIGGEST problem with Christianity, or more so ALL religions is faith. Religions celebrate faith, the notion that people should be encouraged and praised for believing something with little to no evidence. In fact if someone has faith in light of counter evidence this is praised MORE. This is the most dangerous aspect of any religion because it is entirely counter to reason, which is necessary to advance the world into a state where we stop blowing each other up for stupid reasons.
- SemiSarcastic, on 01/24/2008, -3/+11it's the way Jesus would of wanted it.
- slunktoday, on 01/24/2008, -12/+7Absolutely none. As much as I loathe scientology, this campaign will do nothing more than annoy them. It will probably end up generating sympathy for them if anything, and hinder any future efforts to legitimately get them shut down.
A grassroots effot to get rid of their tax-exempt status would have done a lot more harm to scientology than slowing down their website.- Doompuppet, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1Haha, anyone who disagrees will be dugg down, no matter how good of a point they present.
- 1053r, on 01/24/2008, -6/+18So I just got a call from a "Quality Resources". It was a telemarketing scam (according to several websites) operating out of Clearwater, FL. Looking online, I found a comment that said that calls had been received from these people well after midnight. This says to me that they might be employing "staff labor" from the CoS. Their phone number is 727-669-2242. The head honcho over there is a woman by the name of Cheryl Mercuris, married to Kostas B. Mercuris, according to several websites. Kostas's grandmother recently died. Perhaps this information, plus anything else that can be found can make its way to Anon?
- speakdatruth, on 03/04/2008, -0/+0Dude, nice try but your telemarketing hell, is not coming from cos, just my x-wife...not even her but rather one of her many auto dialer call centers that employ about 800 people in the community....I'm sure it seems kinda creepy sometimes when you answer and no one is there...but it's not a cult, it's capitalism and a telemarketer not quick enough to answer the phone b4 you do...still kinda creepy!
- GregIsLegend, on 01/24/2008, -9/+3Right on guys! I have to sa...ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOXENU!
- Ryanx0r, on 01/24/2008, -10/+3I'll be watching... but I'll most likely be living a normal life this weekend. Enjoying myself, having loads of sexy-time and studying.
You know.. things that normal people do.
I mean omfg! Hax0rs are going to take down Scientology through the net. So like, haxxoring their websites is gonna stop them? Meh!
It's silly... But I'm sure it'll be amusing. - Ph0biA, on 01/24/2008, -5/+8I would agree with your logic to leave them alone; but to ignore facts and let people get brainwashed and lose all of their money because of their dire need to have an afterlife is not only irresponsible but public showing of your lack of empathy towards the undeserving.
- thanakar, on 01/24/2008, -4/+2If they are stupid enough to allow themselves to be brainwashed then they get what they deserve.
- UrinalPooper, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2And you are stupid enough that you deserve to have your comment buried.
- wentwj, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1Okay, so if we're protecting people from willingly giving over money to a con-artist, when's the war against the mega-churches?
There are a LOT bigger organizations that take a LOT more money than scientology from a LOT more people. Bigger fish to fry
- thanakar, on 01/24/2008, -4/+2If they are stupid enough to allow themselves to be brainwashed then they get what they deserve.
- Zeeeeeeeeeee, on 01/24/2008, -13/+8I disagree with Scientology, but I do not support these attacks.
As Voltaire said:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.- donkeySays, on 01/24/2008, -2/+9I don't either, but do it for teh lulz.
- aquadoctorbob, on 01/24/2008, -1/+7Voltaire didn't say that.
- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1Yes he did... Google it.
- Zeeeeeeeeeee, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5It is generally attributed to Voltaire, but is not found in any of his writings.
It comes from something called The Friends of Voltaire, 1906, by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
The important thing is the quote, and not who said it.
- Zeeeeeeeeeee, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5It is generally attributed to Voltaire, but is not found in any of his writings.
- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -3/+1Yes he did... Google it.
- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Absolutely !!
Voltaire also said:
"That is to stupid to be said is sung”.
LOL - Lokishot, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5what about the right to say shut up?
- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2Yeah, you have that right. however, I think there are more important things going on in the world to worry about than Scientology.
- mrxenon15999, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3The Co$ uses coercion all the time to shut ppl up. They can whine all they want, but their hands are not clean in this matter.
- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -14/+6I'm not a Scientologist, but has anybody ever heard of the 1st amendment?! Let people believe what they want !!
- donkeySays, on 01/24/2008, -1/+12And let Anon believe what Anon wants.
- stronglikedan, on 01/24/2008, -2/+12They can believe what they want until the cross the lines of the law. It's a well documented fact that they do so on a grand scale, and the consequences ruin many lives. The first amendment does not afford you, any church, any cult, or any one else that right.
You fail.- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -6/+1And so do all religions! Name one religion that hasn't ever broken the law.
- illegalcortex, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2Zoroastrianism.
- neognostic, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Gnostic
- buckrogers1965, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3Flying spaghetti monsterism.
- timbofirstblood, on 01/24/2008, -2/+0"It's a well documented fact that they do so on a grand scale, and the consequences ruin many lives." Do you have a link to any documentation proving that they have broken the law. The whole subject of Scientology is relatively new to me. Thanks!
- illegalcortex, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2http://www.digg.com/search?s=scientology&submit=Se ...
- burningmanstan, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1They will do anything to get what they want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
- infowar69, on 01/24/2008, -6/+1And so do all religions! Name one religion that hasn't ever broken the law.
- init100, on 01/24/2008, -1/+4If I read it right, the constitution only protects citizens from persecution due to religion from the government. Non-governmental organizations and individuals are not bound by that clause.
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6It's not a war on the ridiculous belief. It's a war on fraud, extortion, etc
- atdigg, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Do they also have the right to follow people and intimidate them? They can be assholes about themselves all they want, but once they do things like that they are "fair game" (to use their term)
- jallenscott, on 01/24/2008, -10/+4I'll be playing no part in this stupid *****. Okay, Scientology might be bat-***** crazy, but those who believe in it should be allowed to. Scientology is a religion like the rest, and quite frankly, at this point, it'd be damn near impossible to bring it to an "end" or whatever.
I don't agree with practically anything Scientology has to offer, but I also don't agree with trying to change what other people believe just because I believe that their religion is bat-***** crazy. With the money the followers of Scientology have, what are a bunch of pale, weak, and fragile "hackers" going to do?- Doompuppet, on 01/24/2008, -6/+1DDoS and spam digg that's what they are gonna do. This will obviously lead to their downfall.
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4You're redundant. Besides that, you fail to see what this is about. As I said above, It's not a war on the ridiculous belief. It's a war on fraud, extortion, and the other atrocities Scientology has committed on its followers. It's a cult.
I agree- let people believe in Santa Claus if they want to... Don't tell them that if they talk about Santa Claus to anybody, or stop believing in him, they and their families will be hunted down, crucified, and eaten by the cult.- jallenscott, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Point taken. And, I didn't realize I was being so redundant while I was typing that, work was distracting me. While I do agree with what is being said about what the people who run Scientology actually are, Digg isn't the way to bring about any sort of change. There has to be someone, somewhere with the money to do something along the lines of billboards, short TV commercials, etc.
I just don't feel like these "internet revolutions" accomplish much that they intended to. But, at the same time, if this does do what it set out to do, I'll stand corrected and admit as much.- heypetray, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Thanks for the reply. Sorry if I sounded harsh.
- jallenscott, on 01/25/2008, -0/+0*****, it's Digg. I see enough and read enough to know when someone is being a dick, or if someone is just stating their opinion a little forcefully.
I've just gotten tired of all of this Scientology *****. The attention is probably making Tom Cruise so happy that he's jumping on a couch somewhere like a ***** maniac.
- jallenscott, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Point taken. And, I didn't realize I was being so redundant while I was typing that, work was distracting me. While I do agree with what is being said about what the people who run Scientology actually are, Digg isn't the way to bring about any sort of change. There has to be someone, somewhere with the money to do something along the lines of billboards, short TV commercials, etc.
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Scientology, as a set of beliefs and way of thought, is not inherently a problem. The cult organisation known as the "Church of Scientology", however, is run by corrupt individuals who are violent towards critics, oppressive and destructive to their followers, routinely break the law for their own ends, and are generally worthy of being removed.
The goal is to 'dismantle the church of scientology as we know it', not to destroy Scientology.
- sundancekid503, on 01/24/2008, -8/+12I wish you guys were as dedicated to fighting the real problems facing this country. Scientology is pretty low on my list. This is mostly just giving them more exposure.
- williamdyer, on 01/24/2008, -1/+7Think of this as a beta test. Then we can do it to the drug warriors, neocons, and the telco execs that sold us out to the NSA.
- heypetray, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Best to expose it while it's young... If we wait too long it might actually build enough momentum to have a religiously legitimate message/following.
- hydrex7, on 01/24/2008, -6/+34Scientology isn't just another religion, it is a cult that fleeces innocent people. This is not about freedom of speech or religion. It's about taking down a criminal enterprise. When you were a kid, did you ever dream of being a crime fighter with a secret identity? Here's your chance.
- Chassit, on 01/24/2008, -7/+11All religions are cults that fleece innocent people.
- init100, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Not exactly. How many times have you been forced to pay money to clerics of your religion? Hasn't happened to me yet, but of course, I have only participated in protestant Christian services (although more due to tradition than due to religion, as I am not very religious).
- Chassit, on 01/24/2008, -5/+2Well it's been 25 years since I have belonged to one, but they wanted 10% of everything I made, even as a kid.
- neognostic, on 01/24/2008, -1/+4Not the Gnostics
- Suricou, on 01/24/2008, -0/+7Some more than others. Most churches, for example, ask followers to give what they can afford. Scientology asks people to give everything they have - they to go into debt so they can give more.
- init100, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6Not exactly. How many times have you been forced to pay money to clerics of your religion? Hasn't happened to me yet, but of course, I have only participated in protestant Christian services (although more due to tradition than due to religion, as I am not very religious).
- stevewmn, on 01/24/2008, -4/+1I'd describe Scientology as being in a transition stage from cult to established religion, with some painful growth still necessary in the process. They are where the Mormons were a decade or so after Joseph Smith died. Still pretty much a fringe sect with some bad habits (polygamy for the LDS, aggressive fund raising and lawyers for the Xenuists) but trying to get some respect. My guess is they'll probably succeed, given 100 years or so for their doctrine to settle down and for folks to get used to them. With their Hollywood connections I'm guessing they might become the dominant church for the Left Coast Eccentric lifestyle.
- zephc, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Scientology: "Give me all your money or you cannot obtain spiritual purity [i.e. get rid of those alien souls and get super ninja powers]"
- UrinalPooper, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Well in that case the last thing the world needs is another %)(*ing religion.
- timbofirstblood, on 01/24/2008, -3/+2Forgive my ignorance, but what specifically is criminal about the Church of Scientology? I have only a very basic understanding of the organization. Thanks!
- ph070sh0p, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3You should look it up. It had led to deaths of many people and ruined the lives. People are sucked into it and then lose all of their money. Supposedly, their "full treatment" can cost over $300,000 and brainwashed people are very willing to pay.
- atdigg, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2I support the right of the people to pay whatever they want. Who says people are not allowed to be stupid?
- ciaran036, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2So has Christianity. I got the full treatment of brainwashing with Christianity. I suffered an entire childhood of false hope, ridiculous stories, traditions and ceremonies. It was only in my teenage years where realised I had a choice and after years studying it and long times spent thinking about it, realised that it's all but a pile of crap (although if Jesus existed or not, he still remains a great inspiration because he truly advocated pure love and peace).
- ph070sh0p, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3You should look it up. It had led to deaths of many people and ruined the lives. People are sucked into it and then lose all of their money. Supposedly, their "full treatment" can cost over $300,000 and brainwashed people are very willing to pay.
- ciaran036, on 01/24/2008, -2/+3so is ***** Christianity!
My parents go to mass every week with a little envelop full of cash! The local parish collects about £2000 per week for two priests! My parents have been programmed to do this and I've only just managed to escape the clutches of religion... Religion just gives you false hope because at the end of the day, nobody has a clue what will happen to us when we die, the Bible is just a book. A little book written by people who wanted to control society, and it worked fabulously, and the Vatican have made huge sums of money out of it!
No, I've never dreamed of being a crime fighter with a secret identity when I was a kid, and even if I had I would have wised up by now. What the hells the point in taking down Scientology when there's hundreds and thousands of bigger and more dangerous criminal enterprises, such as your own governments and the big corporations!- wentwj, on 01/25/2008, -2/+2Exactly my thought on the issue. I'm opposed to all religions equally. And if we're going after scientology because of the vast amount of money it takes from it's followers, I think people need to wonder how new megachurches get built weekly in the US
- darkcooger, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Interestingly enough, the people who have used the Bible to control people preach a wildly different message than what's actually in the Bible. You may believe that Christianity is a scam, but you'll be hard-pressed to find evidence in its foundational document that it demands payment for salvation.
- Chassit, on 01/24/2008, -7/+11All religions are cults that fleece innocent people.
- FredFredrickson, on 01/24/2008, -13/+11I don't like Scientology. I don't understand it. I don't get it.
But the US is a free country, and if people want to worship aliens (or whatever the hell they do), then that's their right. Put Christianity in the same modern context, and it sounds just as stupid as Scientology, if not more so. It's a slippery slope to declare war on one religion, while completely ignoring others that endorse war, pedophilia, and all manners of other social ills.- mrxenon15999, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3Does "free country" mean the Mafia is free to operate? Of course not, and neither should Co$. It is a massive bait-and-switch scheme that pretends to be a religion.
- ciaran036, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1When you say you don't like Scientology, and don't understand it, you could be talking about any religion really! They're all just as bad as Scientology!
- burningmanstan, on 01/25/2008, -1/+4Scientology is not a normal religion. They will do anything to get what they want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout - Tyrghast, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2CoS murders it's followers. do a little research into scientology and get back to me with your revised opinion
- Rizin, on 01/24/2008, -8/+3I shall be spreading the Word Of Xenu.
DOWN WITH SCIENTOLOGY! HAIL XENU!
Nah I wont do much I am too lazy and must get back to Gold Farming - stronglikedan, on 01/24/2008, -6/+8Watching and laughing whilst stoned out of my mind...same as always.
- nutniqs, on 01/24/2008, -5/+2made an animation http://alteredstates.ytmnd.com about it
- noself, on 01/24/2008, -3/+13Scientology is an oppressive cult, and a fledgling one at that. To all those who are turning a blind eye; this battle is but the first. We the collective must flex our infant strength if we are to stand up to the globalist super states to come. Scientology is an archetype of parasitism that must be cleansed from our brotherhood.
- ciaran036, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1so is Christianity. I go to mass every week (actually my parents force me to go) and am told I have sinned and I am not worthy to be healed. Then, I have to tell the priest all the naughty things I've done and say prayers as punishment! And Scientology is oppressive!?
- darkcooger, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1You're not describing Christianity. You're describing Catholicism. Big difference.
- ciaran036, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1There's no difference! Slight differences in belief and traditions! You obviously know very little about either religion.
- darkcooger, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Yes, obviously... obviously. Because the Bible demands that you go to mass every week, it demands that you confess your sins to a priest, and it demands that you pray as punishment. Yes, you're right. They're the same. /sarcasm
By the way, how do you define religion in such a way that Catholicism is one? Generally Catholicism tends to be thought of as a set of traditions belonging to a particular sect of the Christian religion. And for what it's worth, I'm not a particularly big fan of "religion" - I am of the Christian faith, but I don't usually say that I am of the Christian religion.
- darkcooger, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Yes, obviously... obviously. Because the Bible demands that you go to mass every week, it demands that you confess your sins to a priest, and it demands that you pray as punishment. Yes, you're right. They're the same. /sarcasm
- ciaran036, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1There's no difference! Slight differences in belief and traditions! You obviously know very little about either religion.
- darkcooger, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1You're not describing Christianity. You're describing Catholicism. Big difference.
- clayasaurus, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1amen. oppressive parasites should be cleansed from the body politic. *zap*
- ciaran036, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1so is Christianity. I go to mass every week (actually my parents force me to go) and am told I have sinned and I am not worthy to be healed. Then, I have to tell the priest all the naughty things I've done and say prayers as punishment! And Scientology is oppressive!?
- DeFex, on 01/24/2008, -1/+21please dont cal it "war on" call it "war against"
WAR ON means war that is never supposed to end, it makes our buddies too much money.
please see, war on drugs, war on terror, war on poverty etc.- feckineejit, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4THANK YOU!!!
- trademork, on 01/24/2008, -3/+11On Tuesday, the founder of Operation Clambake, a non-profit organization and website critical of Scientology based in Stavanger, Norway, released a statement about the attacks by "Anonymous". Andreas Heldal-Lund was critical of the "Anonymous" groups actions, stating: "The author of Operation Clambake does not condone such activity. Attacking Scientology like that will just make them play the religious persecution card. They will use it to defend their own counter actions when they try to shatter criticism and crush critics without mercy." Heldal-Lund went on to emphasize the right of all people and organizations to freedom of speech - including the Church of Scientology: "Freedom of speech means we need to allow all to speak - including those we strongly disagree with. I am of the opinion that the Church of Scientology is a criminal organisation and a cult which is designed by its delusional founder to abuse people. I am still committed to fight for their right to speak their opinion."
- JombieZesus, on 01/24/2008, -3/+10The "reading all this ***** and laughing" part.
- rholland356, on 01/24/2008, -2/+6There's a draft on? Damn. I better head up to Canada.
- donkeySays, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1See the OCA Test on their website?
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