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- smacksaw, on 07/19/2009, -1/+32That is amazing. I'm on Digg, FARK, Google News, etc quite a bit and I had never heard of this. How I missed this, I'll never know, but something so outrageous should get a lot more exposure in proving it true or debunking it. I don't know at this point, this is the first I've heard of it. But I would love to see some more coverage on this. It might be one of those things that gets talked about enough in social media to actually get some people in the know to make comments on.
- yocouchdigga, on 07/19/2009, -2/+25"Sure, we'll begin 'investigating' that one as soon as we're done with not investigating Bush's crimes. Thanks for your support, America. Here, watch this TV show, everything's under control."
- opticwind, on 07/19/2009, -5/+28We are America, we do not torture. We do not kill the innocent. We do not take away human rights.
When we do these things, and we have in the past, it taints our image and serves no purpose but to disrespect ourselves. I don't care if we had Osama bin friggin-Laden in a cage waiting for trial, everyone deserves that trial. - uncleosbert, on 07/19/2009, -4/+23that's horrifying.
"One Afghan trucker, forced to drive one such container, says that the prisoners began to beg for air. Northern Alliance commanders 'told us to stop the trucks, and we came down. After that, they shot into the containers [to make air holes]. Blood came pouring out. They were screaming inside.' Another driver in the convoy estimates that an average of 150 to 160 people died in each container." - PoliticalMan922, on 07/18/2009, -6/+24Well then...I really do wish he'd just do what he needs to do and investigate the Bush days.
- ramilehti, on 07/19/2009, -3/+14I am disgusted by some of the responses on Digg.
Thinking that this is justified because they were "just" Taliban.
THEY WERE PEOPLE!
Just like you and me. There is NO excuse for a massacre like this. There is NO excuse for letting it happen and watching in silence.
If there is no proper investigation of this and other atrocities done under the Bush regime then Obama is giving you no change at all.
Then it really is time for a revolution. Seriously.
Then US is not a society of laws and democracy. And it's citizens shouldn't act like it was. They should act to build one. Like your ancestors did. - chooochooo, on 07/18/2009, -17/+26Taliban soldiers have killed Millions of people specially Hazaraz in Kabul, Mazar-e-Sharif and Bamyan Area with great brutality. I have no remorse for Taliban Soldiers, they are a cancer in Afghanistan and the middle east. They were backed by United Arab Emirates, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, who are also backed by United States (heavily) and United Kingdom!! .....this world is really messed up...
- freezo1994, on 07/19/2009, -2/+9"the equivalent of 7 americans were killed today in afganistan"
- jgubbe, on 07/19/2009, -3/+10The video link from google videos is not working for me. I hope this is not true, but please stop the wars.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-876336748 ...
Anyone have alternative link?
I am sick and tired of bad crap happening under my name as a citizen of the U.S. I feel like I am in the Truman Show or living in a Goerge Orwell nightmare. - inactive, on 07/19/2009, -1/+8"I sure as hell HOPE Afghanistan's not another Viet Nam"
too late. As a parting gift you get the Iraqi conflict as well.
Thanks W, you *****! - oddtom, on 07/19/2009, -0/+6"We are America, we do not torture."
We use "enhanced" questioning.
"We do not kill the innocent."
We call them "collateral damage."
"We do not take away human rights."
We just contain them and move them out of the way. Our Free Speech Zones are a hit.
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Time to wake up. The American Fairy Tale you were told as a child is a textbook example of propagandist ***** if there ever was one.
Your country never was, never is, and never will be an Innocent Bastion of Moral Righteousness and Justice. Neither is your enemy's, for that matter. You're both full of *****. - waspbr, on 07/19/2009, -3/+9Actually the US is also the bad guy here. This is still fallout from the cold war yearsm when the US armed the taliban to fight the soviets. The Northern alliance people are not very different from the taliban, they may not be religious zealots but they are just as ruthless.
Have some ***** balls to admit who the US is still very much to blame here instead of trying to make excuses for mass murder, if you wanna be the good guys act like it.
Prejudice low lifes like you are going to equate any Afghani victims to the taliban " bad guys", you know what, ***** you. People like you really make my blood boil. - ViscidGobs, on 07/20/2009, -0/+6The first casualty of war is the truth.
- Digger1123, on 07/19/2009, -2/+8You are simply ***** wrong. Estimates put the figures of lives lost directly related to the war at around 150,00-200,000, that is not a figure on people killed by American soldiers, but those killed in bombings by terrorists, and yes, in some cases intentional killings of innocents, but the vast majority of those killed directly by the wars were as a direct result of terrorist acts.
- oldhick, on 07/19/2009, -3/+8I've read quite a lot about this story in many places and NEVER have I read a single verified account of a US soldier witnessing these acts. The link to the US military is that the war lords that did the slaughtering were also cooperating with the US military, they were not under the CONTROL of the US military and most often didn't eve have CIA or military attaches with them.
This is horrible and disgusting. We should most certainly have an investigation and the truth must come out. But I encourage all of you who are so quick to condemn the US, the US military and its men and women to do your research. To make claims that you can support with fact and until actual facts about this massacre come out, to not judge that which you know nothing about. - CaptOblivious, on 07/19/2009, -1/+6I'm good with that, if they ***** up punish them.
ALL OF THEM. - spriggig, on 07/19/2009, -2/+7It doesn't matter who we elect, once in office they are all on the side of Goldman Sachs. Old men use religion to drive their citizens to war. But for the old men, war is about money because money is power. Goldman Sachs has the money and therefore the power.
It doesn't matter who we elect as long as Goldman Sachs has the money. - DaviDTC, on 07/19/2009, -1/+5Do you honestly believe the crap that you say?
- SuperKing84, on 07/19/2009, -0/+4no they were unarmed and detained. but since its a crime we are responsible for every excuse and mischaracterization is permissible.
- inactive, on 07/19/2009, -0/+4With the state of the world in it's current nature... Does this really seem unlikely or impossible. I think this kind of human slaughter is business as usual for the human being. Divide yourselves by race, nation, belief, or what have you; and then, kill anyone that's not in your group without mercy or pity. Governments, Big Businesses, and Religious Movements are some of the biggest human meat grinders on earth.
- seanayb, on 07/19/2009, -3/+6Naw, prosecution of that won't be "necessary"! Let's just proceed, business as ***** usual, but this time with better vibes.
Hope! - BotchaMcCoola, on 07/18/2009, -8/+11Shhh. Don't be telling the rubes these things. Keep our war stocks growing. Imagine how many new "terrorists" were likely created by that.
- sovietninja, on 07/19/2009, -1/+4RTFC carefully next time.
- chriscalifornia, on 07/19/2009, -0/+3How many beautiful handstitched rugs have to die before you people wake up and take action?!?
- moxley, on 07/19/2009, -1/+4You don't ***** get it Chooochooo,
It doesn't matter how ***** they are - people don't realize that participating in war crimes is selling our soul - and trust me, some people in our government and multinationals have been doing their best to do it for us.
Us troops and commanders doing these sorts of things is way more of a tragedy than 9/11 was - and there are a lot of people I am sure who just don't get it - we have to retain our humanity and what it means to be American - otherwise we become just like them. - americanoboy, on 07/19/2009, -0/+3so basically the taliban is using cia's training, funding, and weapons to kill americans then
- MonkeyNews, on 07/20/2009, -0/+3You are a colossal ***** if you think nobody tried to help the Jews until "American soldiers jumped in"
- Stormwern, on 07/19/2009, -0/+3http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Afghan+Massa ...
- deweyhewson, on 07/19/2009, -2/+5Which means, if you're like most Americans, you'll ignore it and deny it ever happened.
- ThantiK, on 07/19/2009, -1/+4I guarantee Obama is waiting until 2012 election season to investigate bush/cheny. In my opinion it would secure his next 4 years without a doubt.
- skellObissis, on 07/20/2009, -0/+2Let me know where your bar is tough guy.
- Brainwashed American - JanSimpson, on 07/19/2009, -2/+4I agree - it is the People's Responsibility to control the government - not the government to control the people - and Americans need to rise above their "live and let live" attitude and turn things around in American
- Seomann, on 07/20/2009, -0/+2chooochooo, yes you! Man you are a big extremist. When the Nazis surrendered, only the top leaders were killed and not the foot soldiers. If you have no remorse for mass murder (doesn't matter who it is), then you are big extremist dick.
- FleetlordAtvar, on 07/20/2009, -0/+2I wish I knew whether I needed an ***** Crazy --> English translator or a ***** Insane --> English translator to understand this. On second thought, maybe I'm better off this way.
- ramilehti, on 07/20/2009, -0/+2And they should have been treated as such. There are treaties about prisoners of war and how they should be treated.
Shutting them up in containers and letting them die there is about as inhuman treatment as it gets.
And then shooting the one that were left alive. It is not that big of a leap to jews in railway cars with no food or water going off to concentration camps. In my opinion there is no distinction. - BotchaMcCoola, on 07/20/2009, -0/+2Sorry, only if used for actual defense. No invading and occupying backward countries, nation building, or related *****.
- drumma, on 07/19/2009, -1/+3I remember when trolls used to actually try. Ahhh, good times.
- oakley7247, on 07/19/2009, -1/+3You really should point out the distinction between the Mujahideen and the foreign arab fighters. The Mujahideen were the afghans fighting the soviets, supported heavily by US money and arms, via the ISI.
The foreign arabs were a different group all together, and by most on the ground accounts, were often laughed at by the Mujahideen because they weren't nearly as effective fighters (despite the lore of OBL single handedly killing several Soviet special forces in a fire fight.) Zawahiri was also big in bringing the arab fighters into Afghanistan, he used his doctor title and an medial relief cover to funnel fighters in.
Even in the early 80s, when OBL first arrived on the scene, he refused western money because even then he was espousing the teachings of Qutb, and blaming the west for jahiliyya. OBL used a lot of his money to fund the arab fighters.
I'm nitpicking here...but often people make the connection between our funding of the Mujahideen and the genesis of Al-Qaeda (which didn't happen till years later). The arab fighters streaming into afghanistan are more akin to what happened in chechnya, where arabs flooded into that fight as well and turned it into a jihad. The Mujahideen were just native afghans, not the jihadis. - SuperKing84, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2your excluding people killed as a result of the wreckage of the country. When we count the numbers of monsters like Stalin etc. we include these numbers into the total count but when we count our victims we ignore them.
- ZenMojo, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2The same atrocities happened during the Korean War. Soldiers were ordered to stand silent while South Korea murdered civilians. The graves can still be found with thousands of bodies in them.
- RatatRatR, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2"The most that these America haters can come up with is piling a few naked prisoners up on each other with a dog barking."
And, uh, the thing that this article is about. Might be worth addressing at some point. - buddypriefert, on 07/20/2009, -2/+4@americanoboy
WHAT??? ARE YOU F***ING serious??? 148 people died under Saddam Hussien's knife? And over 1 million by US bullets?
And you are going to 1) quote a non-credible and obviously biased "website" (which doesn't even show up on radar/Google) and 2) only count the number that he was "convicted of" by his trial? Obviously to be "fair" you then would only count the number that the US military was "convicted" of by trial right? Didn't think so.
And please go back and read. You are misquoting them anyway. Nowhere on the site does it refer to the US military murdering the Iraqis, but instead by effects of the war. And sorry, the war wasn't caused by the US.
Wow, just when I thought I have met the dumbest person... - JohnnySoftware, on 07/20/2009, -0/+2Please use a grammar checker before making your next post.
- moxley, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2GWB was a piece of *****. Obama looks like he is probably a piece of ***** too as he is continuing these same programs and is doing the opposite of what he promised when it comes to the wholesale wiretapping of innocent americans...
So please... - VinnieDaMac, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2Support the troops!
- Ryan32, on 07/19/2009, -1/+3Care to provide some sources? Didn't think so.
- NuttyVirus, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2There is actually a very good documentary made called "The Convoy of Death" Should give it a watch.
- moxley, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2That's when you document what you can until you get to a place where you can report whoever issued those commands - if nothing happens you go to the press.
In a war there are times where killing prisoners may make sense, in small groups - if you are a small special operations team doing something important and you take some prisoners - you can't release them, they'll compromise your mission, you can't take them with you unless you're done...
But US commanders and troops helping allies commit a mass murder and telling them how to hide the evidence? That is ***** and unamerican.
I dont even want to hear it from people who claim "Oh, it's hard - these people protect us, cut them some slack." No - ***** that - if they can't be the type of soliders and commanders that they are supposed to be, then they can ***** off and join some banana republic paramilitary force that does that kind of ***** regularly...if this ***** continues, maybe the US will complete it's transformation into one of those banana republics. - moxley, on 07/19/2009, -1/+3Are you kidding me? So he made up all of those people who are dead? He made up the truck drivers who most definitely exist...he made the totally made up truck drivers make a documentary? Riiiiight
Maybe you should 'get a ***** life.' - poidh, on 07/19/2009, -1/+2Yup. It picked up three thousand random Afghan men and looked the other way whilst they will killed. And all for the purpose of validating your opinion of them.
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