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- yournightmare, on 05/01/2008, -23/+335Whew, that was close! Thank God federal marshals were able to arrest her. We can't have soccer moms like this just roaming the streets.
I know she broke the law, but in some cases we should use common sense when deciding punishment. This is definitely one of those times. Presumably she's been living a productive, crime-free life and is now the mother of three children. Hopefully she gets fined, probation, and community service instead of ripping apart her family to send her to prison. - EatingPie, on 05/01/2008, -21/+165I live in Carmel Valley, though I don't know this family. Pretty close to home.
First, I know the family is suffering, but to use a sensationalist "political" headline here isn't right. It illustrates that the poster wants to further his own agenda (anti-war on drugs) over concern for this family. And at this point it IS NOT ABOUT THE WAR ON DRUGS. Yes, her original indictment was a drug charge, but this is now about her being an escapee.
I think it's terrible that they would simply extradite her, without some form of re-trial or leniency. She obviously is rehabilitated now, and there is nothing to be served by putting her back in prison. That, to me, is a crime in itself.
-Pie - thechr0nic, on 05/01/2008, -18/+117wow, I bet the community and society is so much the better for taking this mother off the streets before she could bake any more cookies.
This is a ridiculous injustice, I really hope the courts have common sense enough to realize that she is no danger to anyone and hopefully will not choose to waste taxpayer dollars to imprison her.
I think that 32 years of staying out trouble/raising a family is proof enough of her rehabilitation. - scooterbaga, on 05/01/2008, -7/+97Yes... we need more of these 'common sense' laws. Here's hoping the judge isn't a douche.
- dinsy, on 05/01/2008, -25/+84The war on drugs, like the war on terror is nothing but a war on freedom. If you want a police state, you're going to get it.
- drachemorder, on 05/01/2008, -2/+47You two guys are totally missing the point. She's being sent to jail now for escaping from jail thirty years ago. The original drug charge is irrelevant. It would be exactly the same thing had she been in jail for robbing a bank. I agree with EatingPie here --- she ought to be pardoned.
- doctechnical, on 05/01/2008, -26/+70There's a reason that Justice is depicted as wearing a blindfold. It doesn't matter that she's a soccer mom, what matters is that she sold smack. She broke the law. And then again when she escaped prison. If you start making bleeding-heart exceptions then everyone has a hard-luck story, and no justice will be done.
It's called "Rule of Law", and it's a Good Thing. - drachemorder, on 05/01/2008, -5/+49As far as I'm concerned, the point of jail is to keep criminals away from the rest of society so they can't hurt them. I really don't see the point in locking someone up for something they did thirty years ago and clearly have no proclivity to repeat. That just wastes tax money, among other things.
- greenlight2001, on 05/01/2008, -1/+43Not a bad looking girl when she was 19.
- billbuckner, on 05/01/2008, -10/+50That bounty hunter is the bad guy in every fugitive film. When will they learn.
- doctechnical, on 05/01/2008, -20/+59Odd how the article wasn't very specific on the "drug charges" were... it turns out she was pulling down $2,000/week (adjusted for inflation the better part of half a million a year) for selling heroin.
This wasn't Suzie Creamcheese getting busted for smoking a doob, she was a heavy-duty dealer.
Just to put things into perspective. - DavidS9, on 05/01/2008, -2/+27She was already sentenced statute of limitations only applies if you escape justice with out being sentenced
- EatingPie, on 05/01/2008, -6/+30doctechnical, I see you getting dugg down, but you have a good point about justice wearing a blindfold. The woman's affluence (or lack thereof) should not matter.
HOWEVER, the point of prison is not simply to punish, but to rehabilitate. She has OBVIOUSLY illustrated that she's rehabilitated. Justice, blind as she may be, is no longer served by sending this woman back to prison. Neither the woman, nor society, will gain anything by this act. Indeed, I believe it will have a negative impact on society as her children have to deal with a suddenly-absent mother.
-Pie - OCSmoke, on 05/01/2008, -1/+23We're all criminals, dude. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and with the mountain of laws on the books, we're all breaking some of them.
Let's not pretend she is less like us because she is a "criminal." She ***** up when she was 19. And you? - trogdor282, on 05/01/2008, -5/+26True. While I wholeheartedly despise the war on drugs, we couldn't have a functional society if there was no punishment for breaking out of prison.
- Wargalas, on 05/02/2008, -7/+27Just to play Devil's advocate here, that would send the message to people "if you commit a crime and escape, if you lie low long enough, you don't have to serve out your sentence".
Yes, it's for drugs, and a lot of people have an issue with that, but what if it's robbery? rape? murder? Which crimes to do you say it's ok to let them go after a long while on the lam, and which ones do you send back to jail? - DavidS9, on 05/01/2008, -1/+19she had a Lexus in upscale San Diego not exactly D block
- thechr0nic, on 05/01/2008, -2/+19sorry to hear about your ex-girlfriends mom, addiction in any form is sad. Although, she was addicted to coke, other people are addicted to alcohol or tobacco with equally destructive outcomes.
While your example is a tragic story, it does nothing to take away from the fact that the war on drugs is FAR more destructive than the drugs they are trying (and failing) to prevent from being used. Are you honestly telling me its a good thing when we lock up hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug offenders and wonder why we have to release murderers and rapists early because of over-crowding or budget shortfalls?
sending a non-violent drug offender to prison makes no sense at all. We should be offering them support and programs to help them fight their addiction much in the same way we do for alcohol and tobacco. People will either accept the support and control their addiction(s) or they will end up dead eventually.
I dont know about you, but I can dream up millions of different ways to spend the hundreds of billions of dollars we have spent on carrying on this failed 'war on drugs'. What return on investment have we received from the vast money we have spent? seems like drugs are more available than ever, prices are lower, purity is higher and that 10 year old child still never gets his ID checked before buying drugs and the mountains of profit often go directly to violent drug lords.
I could go on and on for hours if not months about the many evils of the war on drugs, but suffice to say, that if we send this mother to prison, it will be an astronomical injustice. - whatthefu, on 05/01/2008, -5/+22I think if you've managed to keep from getting re-arrested and have managed to be a productive citizen and not hurt anyone for 30 years you should get something out of it. What's the point of bringing her back to prison?
- Adramelech, on 05/01/2008, -6/+22Is not jail for rehab? She looks pretty rehabilitated so no jail is necessary
- brickandwind0w, on 05/01/2008, -14/+29You have got to be kidding me. I can't believe how you people are trying to spin this. Listen, I am as libertarian and against the war on drugs as the next guy but this is just ridiculous. The woman ESCAPED FROM PRISON. It does not matter whether she had a new family or not, she is a convicted felon who did not serve her sentence. This has NOTHING to do with the war on drugs, stop making yourselves look like idiots.
- DavidS9, on 05/01/2008, -10/+25No due to the fact she escaped from jail SHE destroyed her family
- UCIJames, on 05/01/2008, -9/+24The titles of articles on Digg are jokes. I don't even take them seriously any more. This woman broke the law and escaped from federal prison. How in the world can you blame her re-capture and imprisonment solely on the war on drugs? These kinds of misleading article titles shouldn't even be allowed and should be punishable by suspensions and bans for using propaganda and coercion to influence the emotions and beliefs of people.
Buried. - bromac, on 05/01/2008, -4/+19"Drugs ruin your life. So if you're caught with them, we'll arrest you, throw you in jail, and ruin your life"
Makes sense to me! - matts009, on 05/01/2008, -10/+25I don't see why the government should reward her with probation after she escaped from prison when she was supposed to serve 10 to 20 years.
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -9/+23Well she was married which is a lot like prison, maybe she'll get time served?
- Se7ensoul, on 05/02/2008, -0/+14No idea where you got your source. But this is what I found.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame ...
And basically says that she got caught with a friend who was selling the drugs so I have no idea what you're talking about. - tehbored, on 05/01/2008, -6/+19Well she doesn't have to get off scott free, but hopefully the judge will be reasonable enough to put her on probation and call it a day instead of sending her to prison and possibly making criminals out of her kids as a result.
- ncsumetalhead, on 05/02/2008, -0/+13"The war against drugs which actually is a war on civil liberties, don't ever be fooled again" -- Bill Hick
- altinnovation, on 05/02/2008, -3/+16I agree with her to escape jail... She did something stupid, as a 19 year old and would have gotten out of jail as a what.... 40 year old?!
Great job, she's be nowhere in life, probably not looking all too good, and possible single for life.
I applaud her attempts to make something of her life, and hopefully the judge will be more understanding this time. - DavidS9, on 05/01/2008, -56/+69Umm what about the fact she ESCAPED from jail. She probably could have appealed and got a retrial. But she BROKE the LAW TWICE. Sure she got a bum deal on her first time but she broke out of jail and fled across state lines.
If she had been a murderer you would be singing a different tune. But she is a CRIMINAL she was convicted and sentenced. So there is no statute of limitations she still has to serve her sentence, which I admit was way to high, but she still has to do it. Any additional years she gets now is her own fault and no one else's
The argument most people are using is she only broke the law once decades ago but shes been good since then so lets forgive her. That's the same lame argument people who are for illegal immigration use. - JonTheGoose, on 05/01/2008, -6/+19Isn't the point of prison to "rehabilitate" criminals so that they can lead decent normal lives? Seems like she did that just fine on her own...
- Anonymous99, on 05/02/2008, -2/+14Jails in the USA are to institutionalize...not rehabilitate. This is arguably one of the largest flaws in the US justice system.
- fr3ddie, on 05/01/2008, -13/+25drugs are no damn crime.
- dinostabOMG, on 05/01/2008, -3/+15I wouldn't count on the judge. How common is jury nullification?
- hydroplane, on 05/01/2008, -18/+30Stop Snitch'n
- diggduggjoe, on 05/02/2008, -3/+15In the US, jail is to make an example of you, regardless of how many people, like friends and family, it destroys.
- punkcat, on 05/01/2008, -3/+15that and apparently she pissed of someone who knew, the police were tipped off.
word to the wise, be nice to whoever knows your secret identity. - inactive, on 05/02/2008, -2/+13A judge wouldn't have to be a douche to send her up the river for this. Her real crime here isn't the underlying offense - a judge isn't likely to give two ***** about a 20 year old drug offense - the real crime her absconding from the authorities in order to avoid serving her full sentence.
Judges don't like it when people skip out on their prison sentences. - oxdeltaxo, on 05/01/2008, -8/+19what good would it do to send her away to prison again?
- makkaveli19, on 05/01/2008, -4/+15it's nothing like that, it was a victimless crime.
- tmyprod, on 05/01/2008, -6/+17What were her drug convictions? Was she selling meth to 10yr-olds or did she simply get busted w/ a couple 20-bags?
- doctechnical, on 05/01/2008, -3/+14She sold heroin to an undercover cop. Twice.
- AZTriGuy, on 05/02/2008, -0/+10No, but if you're going to make a claim like that it's typically custom to post a link to your source so we can all read the same thing that you're reading. And according to the replies below, you misread it anyway. Lighten up, Francis...
- AZTriGuy, on 05/01/2008, -2/+12Source?
- whatwhatwhoa, on 05/02/2008, -7/+17stop it with your sensationalism. you can't make exceptions to the law, that'll create chaos.
A) she did not serve her sentence.
B) she escaped from prison
C) cross state lines illegally
D) impersonate to acquire legal documents.
That's quite the list. You can't have exceptions cause people would be breaking the law here and there and coming with good excuses. Should the law be unfair to you, there is something called the courts of appeals. Your sensationalism disgusts me. - subterfuge, on 05/01/2008, -2/+12i think her reason for escaping was legitimate. i know it's an extreme example, but if a jew escaped from a prison in nazi germany, would you want them to be put back in jail for escaping when their original crime was being a jew? i think the ridiculousness of her original charge invalidates any further imprisonment.
- gonegoogling, on 05/01/2008, -3/+13also stop snitching
- wishninja, on 05/01/2008, -2/+12Your story illustrates the blow back in the war on drugs. Her addiction can not be stopped by the drug war and it could not have been healed by the drug war. It was the responsibility of the family to take a stand not the government. That is what needs to happen families need to be empowered to fight addiction.
Would anyone be better off if she was in prison? no! That $18,000, that isn't even a drop in the bucket. Take 30-40K just to get someone represented in court to get a fair shake. If not no one is seeing her for 10-20 years, yea that is going to help things out.
The drug war is not helping anyone!! The drug war is only about money and control. -
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