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- Blakovitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+108Go here for an easier-to-navigate graphic:
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/us/20070418_VICTIMS_GRAPHIC.html - misterblommer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+82"NEVER FORGET" - I am so sick of that phrase.
- Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -17/+80Um... how many people, who were just as important individuals, just died in Iraq yesterday?
I think we've already spent enough national attention on this. Let the families mourn in peace. Go ahead, digg me down. - kahjah, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45I hope this dosent become something that we have to hear about like 9/11, oh boy i can feel it. There will be memorials and things on TV about it for years to come. Let it go already. It's sad yes but how long are they gonna dwell on it.
- Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41Sorry if this seems a bit insensitive, buit does anybody else find the "Never Forget" tagline incredibly stupid at this point?... The least people could do is invent a new sentimental tagline to play up the disater. Yes, a bad thing happened, but many times more deaths happen on a daily basis elsewhere in the world.
Someone died in our Ivory Tower! OMG! Let's obsess about it for weeks on end while thousands die outside! - Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -6/+41I think about 200 died yesterday in Iraq, 11 so far today.
- douggmc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Per Lou Dobbs article a few days ago:
"... over 1400 college students die per year due to alchohol related deaths."
"... over 1000 college students die per year due to suicide..
I hope to god the media circus stops soon and that people put this into perspective. The overly dramatic reporters, anchors, news executives along with most Americans seem to relish the incident. Its sort of like drinking a glassful of pure honey ... just too much.
(PS - I'm an American. I don't think we should ignore/"sweep under the carpet" the incident ... but think a little proportion is appropriate.) - Zreitan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32You know.... and this is not meant to defame the memory of the victims at VT..but if we "NEVER FORGET" every single tragedy that comes by..soon the world will be full of shrines and memorials to everyone who died in an uncommon way
- TwilightKing, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32I'm sorry, but "and how they enriched lives"? Really, it's sad that they died, but the fact that they were murdered doesn't make them saints. I mean, some of them could have been real *****! They were just normal people, now they are dead. Look at the fatality statistics for one day in Iraq and get a sense of perspective.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25I suppose I will be dugg down, but I wonder how many of the victims would have tried to befriend the shooter. And, how many of them would have taunted him for talking differently or being extremely shy? Maybe all of them would have. But, when we dole out blame, we can pile some on Cho's doorstep, but we should look in the mirror and ask how we could treat others differently - less viciously.
- meez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19I just saw this very touching comment I would like to present, under the link for comments and memories on Professor Liviu Librescu:
"I herd about what happened.I was not there when it happened.I think that Liviu Librescu would be a good person but I have never met her before. I am just eight. I really feel bad about what happened. My whole school, Kenwood Elemetry is going to pick a family for the classroom and give them baskets for them." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18If I was killed my profile would have been something lame like "Harry: Liked watching TV".
- catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Guys, it only happened 3 days ago. Just relax and turn off the TV if you don't want to hear about it. It's gotten to the point where people complain about every single news story no matter what it is. I'm just as sick of people saying, "oh my god, all they talk about on the news is (insert any story here)" as you are of the story. There is no reason to try to find negativity in everything.
- TroopaDoopa, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22This is great. So...when can we expect a web site that profiles every victim of the war in Iraq? All 3,000 of them?! Perspective! Get some!
- Moebaca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13This is a way better link
- DryvBy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Exactly. Sad it happened but I'm not going to remember or care in a few weeks.
- BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@skrilla360
We "never forgot" 9/11 by pulling movies off the shelves that had the World Trade Center in them and removing all the references, as if the towers never had existed.
The phrase is just a cliche that originates from the desire to remain ignorant and see only what's pleasing. Seeing the meaning that comforts us and focuses us on the effects as oppose to the cause. Continuous distortion of our perception of reality. - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Agreed. I've already forgotten what it was that I'm supposed to never forget.
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12The numbers of innocent Iraqi civilians that have died since the invasion dwarfs the number of US casualties. Virginia Tech style violence is a daily occurrence for them.
- catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12For the record, I would have round-house kicked the guns from his hands and then thrown down kung-fu style. After about a 15 minute battle, I would have given him the crane and then went behind him and snapped his neck while screaming "whadaaaaaaa!" at the top of my lungs. Then I'd turn around and put my sunglasses on, say something clever like, "you messed with the wrong french student" and toss away my cigarette that I smoked through the whole fight as I walk out the doors and into the sunset.
- Jagula, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Back in your day, fooplex, you geezer, I'm sure anyone would be able to tackle someone like Cho.
Can't be too hard when he'd have to manually reload each shot. - Firehunter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10You know jackass, maybe they were nothing to you, but they were something to someone.
Jarrett Lane was a friend of mine. I knew him well. It was devastating to learn the news that he was killed by a madman with a gun.
It is people like you with no compassion that fill me with rage. - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11How come TV networks don't show fans running onto sports fields to prevent immitators, but they've got no problem showing the video rantings of a murderer?
- typographics, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12im still waiting for the car magnet industry to start making money off of this. ribbon anyone?
- bterr004, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I would like to point out that this is NOT a list of all the victims. My friend, Lauren McCain, died at Virginia Tech on Monday. She was an amazing and inspirational person. I thought it was important to not that the list is incomplete and there are other victims.
- Str8Dog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11If I were going to die, I would want to go out as bravely as Liviu Librescu did. That man is a hero in my book.
- MrFatalistic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9he had a ***** gun, not a box cutter. Good thing your generation is dying out then...
- unbreakable, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9That's pretty much the profile of most Diggers.
- phmfthacim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It's good to remember lost loved ones, but I think that phrase sometimes has a political attachment. If you strongly identify with certain hegemons it also might mean "never forget to keep oppressing minorities in order to protect your privilege."
- Str8Dog, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15Would you rather that every post end with ".. but alot of people died in Iraq that Americans don't care about."
I can see it now... Top 5 Amazing AJAX Secrets Revealed.. but alot of peopled died in Iraq that Americans don't care about.
What an awesome headline. - onefinalsunset, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Put the 9/11 "never forget" bs aside and look at the real issue at hand. Too often the media glamorizes those who commit these horrible acts, and shows their disgusting videos to the world. The media is giving sick people like this time in the spotlight and skipping over those who truly deserve the attention, such as the lives lost. It's time to stop focusing on the delusions of a killer and remember and cherish those who were lost.
A lot of great people were lost that day and we all owe them our respect. It's about time someone focused on what is really important... - ikimashokie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Nothing??? Maybe they don't mean anything to you, because you didn't know them.
Maxine was an awesome person. I wouldn't have been surprised if she'd developed something that was going to change the world
I don't expect everyone to care, they don't know the dead. But when people laugh, say it was deserved, call the people "nothing"???
WTF, people, WTF. - robmoff2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Thank you for this post. I think it is sickening that we always remember the names of the murderers but their victims always get lumped together as a faceless group.
- RyandaPimp, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14@ douggmc: there is a big difference between drinking yourself to death and killing yourself and being murdered in cold blood...
- MrFatalistic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8with all the stuff I'm supposed to never forget to today...it's getting a big naggy folks...
- immolation, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@ TwilightKing
You're forgetting. Every artist or musician that dies becomes a genius, and every college kid at the wrong place at the wrong time who dies becomes a hero that "enriched lives"...
And, yes, to the US Gov't an American life is worth more than an Iraqi life. If this wasn't true, we'd have troops on the ground in Darfur right now. - Radar3D, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Ribbons are already available:
http://www.harrisonburg.org/Virginia_Tech/index.html - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@satanatnmtedu,
Having been an outsider as a child, I urged my daughter to befriend a girl in elementary school who didn't have many friends. Later I sort of regretted it because the girl was really annoying. But not really, once you got past the annoying part she was a good person like most anyone else.
I guess the point is, if you want to befriend someone like Cho, you have to be willing to pay the price which might be steeper than you thought. But somebody's got to do it, someone has to be strong enough and wise enough, like my daughter. - coolian, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11RIP, my fellow Hokies.
- edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+630+ dead in Iraq would barely make the front page anymore...
- rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9One of the professors is a Holocaust survivor. How sad that a man and his wife can escape from a madman's orchestrated effort that wiped out 6 million people, only to be shot by some dickwad who was sad because no women would talk to him.
- Bingster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9RIP, shooters victims from all walks of life: white, black, Chinese, Indians, Jews etc.
We had the ceremony, we had half-staffed flags, we had presidential speech and around clock coverage. As it rightly deserved.
But just the other day, over 180 people died in nation's capital ... of Iraq. But few will care about who they were, and few will try to remember them, except their families.
The daily death toll or collateral damage in Iraq is easily over 30. But few will be remembered. There will be no speeches, will hafl-staffed flaged, no papers publiching their names. The Iraqi war dead are just some abstract numbers, faceless and nameless victims.
Clearly American lives are valued more than Arab ones, but is this kind of hypocrisy so prevalent, so accepted in US that people don't give it a second thought? - sporg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Well you are a hero in your own mind fooplex. I have five bucks that says you would ***** your pants and cry for mommy.
- Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I am amazed there are not more school shootings. America hasn't changed all that much since Columbine, so frankly, I expect a major school shooting every couple of years because a disaffected delinquent got spurned by a girl. I'm saddened that it happens, but this is a local issue, and its being drummed up into a major media event. It doesn't lessen the impact on the families, of course, but there are, strictly speaking, more important things happening elsewhere. This is an extension of the "missing white girl theory." These students were good looking, smart, and generally speaking, descended from Europeans. Its perfect mass media material.
And as far as it goes, we are all about as capable of stopping the next school shooting as we are of getting the troops out of Iraq, or preventing the genocide in Darfur, yet VT is getting a full week of coverage, wheras Darfur barely registers, and Iraq has become "suicide bombers are sort of expected there -- 200 dead, move along, nothing to see here" - MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5While his statement was extremely blunt and self-stroking, I see where he's coming from. We do live in a nation where the public system is always trying to protect us from ourselves these days. I'm trying to instill some street smarts in my teenage kid for this very reason. If I ever find myself in this situation, and I have a good chance of getting killed, I believe strongly that I would prefer to go down trying to stop the *****.
One of the things that struck me as odd is, this guy was walking through doorways into rooms. It wouldn't have taken much effort to jump the guy or hit him in the head with a desk as he was coming through the door. I'm not saying the kids were cowards, but I do wonder where the fight in them was. A whole lot of them just got shot point blank where they were hiding.
I suggest people sit down and reflect on this event for this reason. If you think you would hide in fear under a desk until you got your head blown off, then you might want to do a little soul searching about what your life and the lives of others mean to you. Like I said, I'm not calling these people cowards, but we live in a world these days where you might want to reflect on this situation and decide NOW what you would do. Maybe, just maybe you will be a little more mentally prepared should something similar to this happen to you. - LatinHeart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh please this happens often in several countries, it's nothing new, It just happens to be on the U.S. and since the media is always looking for a way to see those rating #'s go up they go to any leght to dramatize the event.
I do not support what that ***** did, however many people sadly miss this point. - texxmexx, on 10/12/2007, -17/+22How about a profile on the almost 300 dead in Iraq yesterday?
What's that? White lives are more important than brown ones?
Anyone caught up in this media spectacle is beyond racist. How can you look yourselves in the mirror?
Any loss of life is tragic, but some of you need to pull your sheep heads out of your sheep asses.
Peace! - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6icaruscollapse: Great, now what about the thousands of dead Iraqis who didn't ask for a war and who couldn't give a crap what risk there is to US soldiers? Stop looking at stuff from one angle.
- garg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I agree about your point that society has taught people to give up, run and hide instead of trying to defend them selves. I don't think it's their fault and they shouldn't be attacked for it. Also, it's not easy to get into that group mentality that would have allowed them to team up and attack together with out earlier planning, so asking them to cooperate with out any planning is just unfair.
Of course, it is easy to say these things from the comfort of a couch at home. No one can truly know how they will react when something like this happens. - sporg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Psychological abuse probably played a large part in his insanity. America is full of cruel spoiled little brats and people like Cho are only one of the lovely products they produce.
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