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Video & Photos: Israeli Army Raid and Loot Hebron Orphanage

sabbah.biz — This is an update to Kawther Salam ’s story about the Palestinian Orphanage in Hebron. At 1.00 in the morning on the 30th of April, the Israeli Army raids orphanage in Hebron, home to 110 girls, seizing all equipment from community sewing workshop.

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  • LadyKofNYC, on 05/12/2008, -84/+180How proud Israelis must be of their big strong "defense" forces who steal from orphaned little girls.

    Typical Israel.

    Disgusting.
    • cageybee, on 05/12/2008, -50/+32children's blood sucking low-lifes. disgusting pieces of *****.
    • Herkimer56, on 05/12/2008, -72/+45Two more idiots buying in to the Hamas propaganda.
      • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -32/+29***** off, proven antisemitic anti-Israel conspiracy theorist.

        This story has been carried by the MSM, and is factual.
        • jcm267, on 05/12/2008, -21/+25Proven? Post the proof.
        • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -17/+13You are too, CAMERAman.

          Just look back at your own words.
          • xtrench, on 05/12/2008, -7/+8Hey, I remember neocognitism from other Israel related threads. Watch out, he's going to spam the ***** out of this one...
        • DavidBGie, on 05/12/2008, -4/+5"...seizing all equipment from community sewing workshop." Yeah right, it's not a sweatshop! Just a friendly little place were girls go to sew 18 hours a day... every day.
      • Tangaroa, on 05/12/2008, -16/+25@Herkimer56: Sabbah was banned from Daily Kos for being too much of a Hamas propagandist. That is pretty hard to do given how popular Hamas is as a "legitimate resistance" / "peace activist" movement over there.
        • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -22/+17They are. Oh and they're the legitimate democratically elected government, and not the CIA-backed US puppets like PA.

          I see you hate democracy. Another reason you are anti-Israel, aside from opposing negotiations sans preconditions.
      • VinceNoir, on 05/12/2008, -7/+11Propaganda? How? Is it simply propaganda when you don't agree with it? Until you can give us something more substantial and trustworthy than some stinking pro-Zionist viewpoint, you should shut the ***** up.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+9It's propaganda, because the Palestinians have a known record in propagandist lies. And staging pictures and films.
          Check out http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/ar ... This is the Palestinians ~faking~ mass burials, when you see the bodies suddenly stand up and walk.
          After this, I can no longer believe any picture coming from the Palestinians. How can you?
          • VinceNoir, on 05/12/2008, -8/+7How can you believe the Israeli government either? They lie through their teeth. But you didn't give me a credible non-Zionist source. And you said, "It's propaganda, because the Palestinians have a known record in propagandist lies". That is no proof of any kind. It's like saying, "Republicans in the U.S. are criminals because they have a known record in criminality". As much as I wish that were the truth, I know it's not. All Palestinians are not evil warmongers. Just like all Israelis are not power hungry money grubbing beasts.
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4i can just point to your weblink and say you're feeding US propagandist lies.. "www.israelinsider.com" hardly seems like a nonbiased source. It works both ways, but when Israel is violating innumerable UN sanctions and violating basic human rights, then something is wrong.

            ..but..but.. hamas!!!
    • macweirdo42, on 05/12/2008, -10/+46Screw them. Screw both sides. Just keep ***** looking for a reason to retaliate against each other. Both sides want to pretend that they're somehow innocent, that they were provoked, while both sides keep provoking. When the ***** will anyone see that this isn't a case of good guys vs. bad guys, at least not in the traditional sense. The good guys here are the average citizens, the ones on both sides who just want to live in peace. The bad guys here are the extremists who can't accept the idea of peace and must constantly keep looking for something else to be pissed off about.
      • Flamancot, on 05/12/2008, -9/+16I'm sorry mac, as inspiring as your comment is it remains inaccurate. There isn't really such a thing as an 'average citizen' in the west bank or gaza... These are people living in their own occupied country, surrounded by check points and a never-ending war. With the exception of a few very strong willed groups and organizations committed to peace and reconcilliation most of the palestinian population lives out their short lives in a political situation steeped in hate. That hate is all too justifiable for the 'average' palestinian citizen and constantly taken advantage of by political game players and yes, extremists (the bad guys). In my opinion, it is within Israel that most of the hope for Palestinians lives. Without an honest and uniform will to peace in the industrialized, largely civilized nation of Israel, Palestinians will continue to grow up victims of their situation. Born into hate, living a life that only seems to justify it.
        • macweirdo42, on 05/12/2008, -4/+21There are many Palestinians who wish desperately for the violence to end, just as there are many Israelis who wish desperately for the violence to end. The real problem is that the extremists on both sides insist that only more violence will bring an end to the violence.
        • DavidBGie, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5So both sides need a giant time-out? Go stand in the corner until they calm down like children? History proves that peace ONLY comes from victory. Israel must crush the Palestinians or the Palestinians must crush Israel. Then there will be peace. Only the naive who ignore life and it's history believe anything else. As long as Israel is restrained by the US and the Palestinians are too militarily weak there will be a stalemate. No peace.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -9/+9All that given, Hamas was just a terrorist organization until a few years ago. Then they got ~elected~ by the Palestinians.
        • pintomp3, on 05/12/2008, -7/+15ariel sharon was just a war criminal, then he got ~elected~ by the israelis.
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -12/+6I'm assuming you're referring to sabra and shetila.
            Christian Arabs kill Muslim Arabs in Lebanon. Muslim Arabs kill Christian Arabs in Lebanon. Funny that the ~Israeli~ Prime Minister is the war criminal in all of this.
          • 911ArtStudent, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4So was Menachem Begin
      • Jlaugh, on 05/12/2008, -4/+8Funny how terror and politics go hand in hand. Todays terrorists are tomorrows elder statesmen, so the war on terror is a war on political involvement. Just 70 years ago zionists where blowing up British and Turkish officials.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -5/+7A. Those attacks weren't supported at all by the majority of Israelis, in fact, these were a radical few.
          B. They were against the Brits, not the turks.
          C. They were attacks against MILITARY TARGETS. An act of war, not terrorism. And definitely not insane murder of women and children like the animals at the Hamas prefer.
    • Dynamis, on 05/12/2008, -23/+23Partially true or not. It's anything but "typical Israel".
      • Chassit, on 05/12/2008, -20/+24Oh *****, the Israel Defense Force is as much a terrorist organization as Hamas, Hezbollah or the PLO. ***** THEM ALL!!!
        • Dynamis, on 05/12/2008, -18/+15Not even close.
          • gyrfalcon, on 05/12/2008, -3/+6I don't buy this Israel is the devil B.S... Israel could easily wipe out all the Palestinians if they wanted to look like the devil for a few years.
          • j0c1f3r, on 05/12/2008, -5/+6right....then the world would see what they really are....and not the "poor picked on jews"......your blind and an idiot....
      • CryRightardCry, on 05/12/2008, -10/+23How do you figure?
        Is this REALLY out of character for leadership that sends tanks into refugee camps?
        I know don't want to believe it, but pretending this isn't par for the course is asinine.
        • Dynamis, on 05/12/2008, -9/+9If the weapons and people from within that camp are attacking their civilians then it would be a crime to not stop it.
        • chaaalieboy, on 05/12/2008, -7/+17What are those people doing in refugee camps in the first place? It's been 50 years now.
          If i was forced from my home and made to live in abject poverty for 50 years without hope of escape, I would go terrorist on the people who made me live that way.

          If you're gonna make an argument, start from the beginning.
          • Dynamis, on 05/12/2008, -7/+9Since it's obvious that you won't take my word for it. Here is a source for you to start your own fact finding mission:

            During a fact-finding mission to Gaza in June 1949, Sir John Troutbeck, head of the British Middle East office in Cairo discovered that the refugees

            express no bitterness against the Jews (or for that matter against the Americans or ourselves) they speak with the utmost bitterness of the Egyptians and other Arab states. “We know who our enemies are,” they will say, and they are referring to their Arab brothers who, they declare, persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes. . . . I even heard it said that many of the refugees would give a welcome to the Israelis if they were to come in and take the district over.

            Sir J. Troutbeck, “Summary of general impressions gathered during week-end visit to the Gaza district,” June 16, 1949, PRO, FO 371/75342/E7816, p. 123.

            I'm not saying that Israel never forced anyone from their homes, but when you start talking about "going terrorist" on the people "who made me live that way" you should probably know who you're primarily talking about.
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -6/+8Well quoted. Need I remind you all of the border between Gaza and Egypt, which was teared down by the Hamas, only to be blocked up again by the Egyptians?
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+7Dynamis. Seems like Electronic Intifada are here being that you're being dugg down so much. Well, they can digg you down, but they can't change the truth.
          • chaaalieboy, on 05/13/2008, -6/+1then explain to me why, if palestinians hold no antipathy towards Israel, has Hezbollah been democratically elected by the palestinian people. Hezbollah's main stated mission is the destruction of Israel. And why would palestinians be launching rockets and detonating suicide bombs in Israel if they held no grudges against it.

            1949 was a long time ago, my friend. I'd like to see what a fact finding mission in the year 2008 would find. Oh wait, there have been many, and none of those missions since 1949 have found what you want them to find, so you don't use them.

            Get your argument strait, and try to use legitimate, contemporary sources.
          • wpi97, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4@chaalieboy
            Hezbollah is a _Lebanese_ Shiite terrorist group, not a Palestinian one. I think you are the one who should get your argument straight.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -10/+9Refugee camp? I've never heard of so many armed gunmen with bombs, anti tank missles, ballistic rockets, RPGs, in a "Refugee" camp.
          Truth of the matter is, If Israel was to send tanks into the Gaza refugee tanks, they'd probably be able to destroy quite a few of those tanks with all the Improvised Explosives and Anti Tank missiles they've gotten from Iran.
        • chaaalieboy, on 05/13/2008, -7/+2***** Digg. Why has HAMAS been elected, not Hezbollah
          • wpi97, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4Oh, I see you have corrected yourself. The answer to your question is 60 years of brainwashing. In 1948 combined armies of 5 Arab countries attacked Israel on the day it declared its independence. The goal of the attack was to push Jews into sea, i. e. genocide. As a result of this war, initiated by the Arabs, 700,000 Palestinian Arabs and 900,000 Jews from Arab countries were displaced.

            The majority of the Jewish refugees settled in Israel, and became an integral part of Israeli society. They do not live in camps, because they were absorbed by Israel. The Arab refugees ended up in several Arab countries, which, with the exception of Jordan, refused to grant them citizenship or even residency rights. For example, Palestinians in Lebanon are prohibited from owning land, or holding certain jobs. Palestinians were expelled from Saudi Arabia after Arafat sided with Saddam Hussein during the first Iraq war. In essence, the Palestinian refugee problem is perpetuated by the UN and the Arab states, who use the refugees as ticking bomb intended to destroy Israel. The Palestinians are the only group, for which descendants of refugees are also considered refugees by the UN. The only just solution is for them to be granted citizenship by the countries where they have been now living for two or three generations, and for reasonable compensation to be renegotiated for the property lost by all refugees, Arab and Jewish.
    • jblade, on 05/12/2008, -21/+26So typical of digg.... the second Israel gets promoted to the front page for a good story, a slanderish one follows.
      • CryRightardCry, on 05/12/2008, -7/+12Which good story?
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -12/+10(I better send a shout to my friends so we start bashing Israel and spreading lies there as well).
          • caferrell, on 05/12/2008, -7/+7Bottom line capuchino is that you and your buddies failed this time. An honest article about IDF brutality made it to the front page.
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -9/+4there was no ***** IDF brutality. These are lies spread by the Palestinian lie machine. That ***** "orphanage" was run by terrorists to brainwash those poor little girls. This making the front page is just a disgrace to Digg.
          • Heiminator, on 05/12/2008, -8/+5you,dkapuchino, are on the same intellectual level as people who deny the holocaust
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/13/2008, -5/+3there was no IDF brutality guys, dkapuchino was there personally... yeah IDF is not known for its brutality..

            /sarcasm
    • tman84, on 05/12/2008, -18/+33I'm just waiting for the people to start crying Anti-Semetic. Because talking bad about Israel means you hate Jews
      • chaaalieboy, on 05/12/2008, -14/+9WTF? There are SO many logical fallacies in what you just said. Don't even get me started.
        • tman84, on 05/12/2008, -6/+11I wouldn't want to "get started" but I would like you to get it. The whole point of that statement was being illogical. Everytime there is an article on digg about not liking/ not agreeing with something Israel does, the usual suspects show up and start crying about Anti-Semites on digg and they are shocked at all the jew haters on the site.
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -8/+6What would you call people spreading lies and make beliefs about Israel, reiterating the same lies and propaganda spoken by those who try to demonize Israel, to justify their killing of jews, which has gone on long before Israel ever existed as a state.
            1929 Hebron massacre. Google it up.
      • oasmar1, on 05/12/2008, -4/+9Actually, you would be surprised, I know many Jews (obviously not in Israel) who do not wish to go to live in Israel because they are against the way the Israeli Government is trying to gain control of the area.
        BTW I'm Palestinian (Doctor in the UK) but I still think both sides have some issues.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+6Even Jews can be misinformed by the Media. Especially in the UK, where the BBC has been Anti Israel for years. Must be some kind of a grudge against Israel for not wanting to be yet another British colony.
          • 911ArtStudent, on 05/12/2008, -6/+7Even dkapuchino can be misinformed by the philo-zionist media. Its true!
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/13/2008, -5/+4hey dkapuchino... UK media is anti-israel, ei is "hamas propaganda", NBC news is also a bunch of anti-semites (they reported this same story), right?

            How about you stop accusing everyone of anti-semitism. Nobody gives a damn about eliminating the Jews, yes not even muslims. What people DO give a damn about is when Israel makes America fight useless wars of conquest, ensuring the deaths of millions of people in the middle east and calling people out on mistreatment of Jews while Israel continues to plunder and opress their own native population.
      • j0c1f3r, on 05/12/2008, -4/+6just the way the "jewish owned" media plays it bro........
    • pitlord, on 05/12/2008, -13/+10Hamas did this to their own people.
      ><
      Hamas was using those poor, innocent, orphan girls to make uniforms, repair weapons and equipment and probably to satisfy their carnal desires. So, that's what the "palestinians" get for allowing their innocent orphan girls to be used as an asset for a terrorist group.
      -_-
      If they are going to use those sewing machines to stitch up suicide bomb vests then they don't deserve to HAVE sewing machines.
      (X^P

      • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -4/+11is that the best you can come up with ? on one side you say that we're fighting an enemy that wears no uniforms-- and then on the other side you're using these same "uniforms" to justify the looting and raiding of an orphanage. Lets see your proof that the entire orphanage was just a production plant of suicide vests. Give me a break!!! stop propagating lies and justifying the mistreatment of an entire people-- and even their children!!! get off your high horse and realize that if it happened at your workplace or in YOUR neighborhood you wouldn't feel the same way. If you say "hamas did this to their own people" do you stop to think that maybe those little girls actually had nothing to DO with hamas or its policies? Its like someone characterizing all Americans as idiots and deserving of a future riot/attack just because they say use our government as a representation of us and say "Bush did this to his own people"
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -10/+8This is hamas in uniform:
          http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/16/israel
          Israel has no need to "loot" the orphanage of it's sewing machines. Enough textile factories have been closed in Israel in the past few years to supply sewing machines to whomever wants them. But anything to Demonize Israel, right?
          What the ***** do so many sewing machines have to do in an orphanage? Come on, quickly, think of a good lie.
          As for hamas policies, these poor girls were being subjected to daily brainwashing by the Hamas, telling them that Israelis should be killed, so they can be martyrs and go to heaven. Don't believe me? take a look at the children shows on Hamas TV. Google Farfour.
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -5/+9i dont think they need to be "brainwashed"-- when they see their mothers and fathers being killed infront of them every day, and then the same people coming in and looting the orphanages that provide for them once their parents have died... i'm pretty sure thats incentive enough to hate Israel.
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -8/+5When was the last time a palestinian was killed in Hebron *****? Infact, when was the last time an unarmed Palestinian was killed in the entire ***** west bank?
            That given, when was the last time an unarmed Israeli was murdered in the west bank?
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -5/+4you need to broaden your scope and open up your tunnel vision. Just because a Palestinian hasnt been killed in Hebron doesn't mean they don't identify with their brothers and sisters elsewhere that suffer the atrocities I mentioned. Instead of addressing the war crimes that Israel continuously commits, you just turn to ad hom attacks and tricks to try and discredit anyone that shines light on Israel's unjustifiable behavior. Even if you ARE God's chosen people, shouldnt you still be ashamed of yourself for what you promote and justify.
          • slotimus, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Why would they kill Palestinians in the West Bank anyway? Abbas is 'playing ball', they don't want to try and destroy an army they are paying to build. Here is some information about Fatah being on the US's payroll.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHIOOHfdKuA
      • DarkSideWRX, on 05/12/2008, -0/+7What's your source on that information, anyway?
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+9The amount of sewing machines found in that orphanage / sweatshop.
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -3/+7the amount of sewing machiens found in an orphanage???? then mexico is getting ready for the mother of all suicide attacks on america
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+2That's proof that the orphanage was a sweatshop. Not proof that the girls were being brainwashed. (That proof, can be found in the articles someone linked to below). How surprising that I'm actually having this argument with someone who's nicknamed "shahid".
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -3/+6really? what does "shahid" mean then genius?
          • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_(martyr)
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -3/+6you're an idiot because that is Shaheed.. not Shahid.. how about you learn the english language and the sound that the letter "i" makes. Shahid on the other hand means witness, look it up.
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_%28name%29
      • Heiminator, on 05/12/2008, -3/+7yeah right,some palestinians become terrorists so why not deny access to even the most basic blessings of the industrial age from every man woman and child in that country,people like you need to stfu pitlord
    • IdevInull, on 05/12/2008, -10/+8This factory was producing war material for Hamas.....
      • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -5/+10proof
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -9/+5It'll be out pretty soon. But by then this thread will be long gone, and you and your Arab propagandist friends will be there to bury the truth.
        • 911ArtStudent, on 05/13/2008, -4/+5So your shift is winding down? Maybe you can ask the CAMERA crew for some overtime pay?
    • Inflammo, on 05/12/2008, -12/+10"Typical Israel"?

      Bigotry is bigotry, douche.
      • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -9/+6typical israel no, typical IDF yes.
  • 911ArtStudent, on 05/12/2008, -36/+55There's more here;
    http://digg.com/world_news/Israeli_Army_Loots_a_Pa ...

    http://digg.com/world_news/MONSTROUS_Israeli_Army_ ...

    http://digg.com/world_news/Another_Hebron_Raid_Fur ...
    • Metman, on 05/12/2008, -13/+12How about some accounts from a non-bias source?
      I mean all of those links are from known propagandist sources. =/
      • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5show the truth and ur propagandist. meanwhile agencies in the MSM are accurate independent unbiased thinkers! deny everything your eyes and ears show you, and continue to believe the lies taht you've been fed at temple week after week.
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -9/+4If I was an orphane in an orphanage lead by a Terrorist organization (Hamas), in which I was preached that I should become a martyr and kill other Israeli children, I sure as hell would hope someone would come in and save me.
      • jessehadden, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4Hamas has a guerrilla warfare wing, yes. (I realize that guerrilla warriors are referred to as "terrorists" when they are on the "other" side.) It also happens to be the social services lifeline for those people. The IDF does not permit the Red Crescent, or anybody else for that matter, to help those people, so they've cobbled together an organization that operates like a nascent government. You should do some research on what "Hamas" is, rather than swallowing what the evening news tells you.
        • netant, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1And don't forget the Irgun was a guerrilla warfare wing too. Yes, terrorist, one day you too can become Prime Minister.
  • 911ArtStudent, on 05/12/2008, -36/+74No doubt yonoz, foopirata, hadees and company will come along any minute now and tell us they were sawing that table in half in order to find hidden weapons caches and secret tunnels through which food and fuel - errr...I mean "bombs" - are smuggled.
    • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -28/+11Rocket99, didn't you get banned?
      • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -19/+18hadees, didn't one of your alternate shill accounts get banned? CAMERAman Gilead told me you did.
        • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -17/+10Which shill account was that? Unlike you and your friends who get paid by Hamas to create many digg accounts I do this in my spare time so I really don't need any other accounts.
          • caferrell, on 05/12/2008, -0/+7Like Hamas has the money to pay these guys hahahah That was a good one - gotta remember it
            One of the common tricks in propaganda is to accuse the other side of exactly what you are guilty of before they can accuse you, thereby weakening the coming accusation
            How much does AIPAC or CAMERA pay YOU?
        • gcnaddict, on 05/12/2008, -7/+11Welcome to my blocklist, Hadees. People like you are unnecessary on Digg.
      • CryRightardCry, on 05/12/2008, -7/+7Really?
        You want to go at it that way?
        How many accounts have you had banned, rightard shill?
        • DreadPirate, on 05/12/2008, -4/+4Pot, meet kettle (also formerly known as mightydavefish)
    • yellowcakewalk, on 05/12/2008, -13/+21MegaPhone their asses and they'll be here in a minute...
      http://giyus.org
      • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -25/+14You and your fellow Hamas supporters do better with Digg Shouts then Megaphone could do in 100 years. No one uses that gloried RSS reader, face the fact you are a hypocrite.
        • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -14/+25Your unending defense of that sociopathic astroturfing tool proves you have a connection to its operation.
          • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -19/+11Defense? I hate the piece of ***** because morons like you send out 100s of digg shouts about it yet not one of you has shown any proof anyone is actually using it.
          • Tangaroa, on 05/12/2008, -15/+15@hadees: I loved the comment a few weeks ago from one of these idiots who actually took the time to download Megaphone or some GIYUS-type software like it. He discovered it was an unusable piece of crap, so he concluded that the Jews must have a secret and even more insidious type of communication software hidden from public view because Jews are all-powerful and secretive like that. Meanwhile, the fearmongerers send and receive Digg shouts to probably more users than all the GIYUSware has put together.
          • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -14/+12Well you most likely are just astroturfing CAMERAmen, since you all work together and have a very similar "Greater Israel" Ziontologist message.

            Oh, and I could prove people use it if I could have access to both of your computers and all your email accounts. I'm sure you'll support this since it will exonerate you both.
          • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -12/+6I don't want Greater Israel although I would like parts of East Jerusalem. I can show that on a map if you want because I know how easily confused you get with what constitutes East Jerusalem.
          • EmporerTitus, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5@Tangaroa: If one "concluded that the [Ziontologist] Jews must have a secret and even more insidious type of communication software hidden from public view" they would be correct:
            http://digg.com/world_news/Jew_Infested_Department ...
      • yellowcakewalk, on 05/12/2008, -14/+23@hadees "Hamas supporter" is too narrow. "Supporter of resistance movements against brutal occupation in general" would be correct.
        • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -22/+11How about people who like to use suicide vests?
        • yellowcakewalk, on 05/12/2008, -15/+21@hadees How about the brave lads that rain death from the skies on the heads of women and children?
        • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -14/+20How about people who shoot tank shells at families and news crews?

          Let's give Hamas some tanks, and then no more vests! Problem solved! I know you'll support this.
          • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -19/+11Why would i ever support giving weapons to a terrorist organization who is violating Palestinian law by controlling the Gaza Strip. However I was fine with giving weapons to the PA so they could police themselves instead of the IDF having to.

            Of coarse you will just defend Hamas because that is what they pay you to do.
    • israfeel, on 05/12/2008, -4/+9I wonder how they justify the rapes they frequently commit.
    • EmporerTitus, on 05/12/2008, -1/+6Having been banned from Wiki, dkapuchino now stalks people on digg. Let's play "Which of the CAMERA Cabal is he?"

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_fo ...

      # Zeq (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log), Isra-pedia member (banned from Wikipedia)
      # Gni (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log), Isra-pedia member
      # Dajudem (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log), Isra-pedia member
      # Jersmum (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)[1], Isra-pedia member
  • MarkusGarvey, on 05/12/2008, -33/+54fabric bombs....very deadly!...i think they were using the racks to make giant slingshots to lob pillows at the IOF!...refute that CAMERA boys...
    • LadyKofNYC, on 05/12/2008, -15/+20Well the ends of some feathers used in pillows CAN me sharp enough sometimes to almost leave a red mark.
    • yonoz, on 05/12/2008, -24/+18I see you've joined the "anyone-who-disagrees-with-me-is-a-paid-operative-with-evil-twitches-sitting-in-a-dark-room-filled-with-cigarette-smoke" group, MG.
      Looks like high time to invest in tin-foil.
      • hadees, on 05/12/2008, -23/+11I think they are being paid by Hamas and I have just as much proof as they have.
        • MarkusGarvey, on 05/12/2008, -8/+13do you think Hamas was taking that video?...i would much rather hear your opinion about what you saw in the video, than hearing your troll-speak...
      • MarkusGarvey, on 05/12/2008, -13/+18how do you figure yonoz?...your the one on the other thread defending killing a mother of 6 and keeping her traumatized kids captive for 6 hrs....why didn't you answer my question?..."whatever these... "dangerous" children got in their 6 hr detention was not good enough...dammit yonoz!...these children just watched their mother get blown to bits...how can you possibly defend this!."......wanna try again?..
        • yonoz, on 05/12/2008, -10/+9I answered that question - it's quite clear that this was during an incursion, taking the kids outside would put them in harm's way. Moreover, I'm sure that if you saw IDF personnel leading kids somewhere you'd joining the OMG HuMAn SHildZZ!!!1 chorus.
      • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -14/+11Yeah but you really are an astroturfer, noz, along with hadees and foobutt, and Stevanoski who is one of you.

        CAMERA is proud of your efforts, Gilead wants to let you blow him again.
      • EmporerTitus, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5I guess Wikipedia needs some tin foil too:
        http://digg.com/world_news/Jew_Infested_Department ...
  • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -44/+76It is a testament to the broken nature of our MSM that this story is not headlining all over the country.

    This is completely indefensible atrocity against ORPHANS, and thoroughly covered over two months with video and photo evidence.

    The islamic orphanage has no connection whatsoever to Hamas, and represents the IOF's attempts to destroy Islam among the Palestinians, a blatant genocidal and anti-Islam hateful act, and completely illegal under the Geneva Conventions, and numerous UN resolutions.
    • Kaitsu, on 05/12/2008, -11/+7It's not top headlines because no one gives a ***** about the medieval religious zealot "governments" there anymore. Just arm up and finally get it over with.
      • dafragsta, on 05/12/2008, -6/+8I think you are spinning that quite a bit Officer Barbrady. It is relevant because Israel is a prime US ally. We sell them weapons and talk tough to keep Iran out and for what? Is either side of this religious ***** more morally upright than the other? I say no, and I don't want my tax dollars funding the weapons R&D for the IDF if they are every bit a terrorist organization as Hezbolah(sp).
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+11This story is not headlining all over the country, because when you know the truth behind the story - being that this was an orphanage held by the Hamas terrorists, in which children have been brainwashed to become martyrs (much like Hamas TV broadcasts TV shows "for kids", in which they are taught to hate and bare arms, and that it is noble to die while killing jews [google "Farfour"]), I can assume that the MSM would be so keen to spread your Anti Israel propaganda.
      • source1984, on 05/12/2008, -4/+5Wtf are you talking about??? Kids were not being brainwashed there. Its NOT a hamas orphanage. One of the orophanage people probably has dual hamas membership or knows someone in hamas, and thats what they call a "link". Its ***** to screw up a whole orphanage because its linked to the most powerful political force in Palestine. you people get one or two memri video of some palestinian propaganda and you think all kids are being brainwashed. you probably tell yourself that to make yourself feel good for messing with an orphanage.
      • EmporerTitus, on 05/12/2008, -5/+6Which of the Isra-pedia / CAMERA Ziobots are you?
        Doesn't it suck (for you) that Wiki BANNED your Zionist cabel, for CONSPIRACY?
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_fo ...
      • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -5/+4@Emp - Look at this guy's account profile. If you asked me to, I couldn't come up with a more blatant astroturfer account, made at the exact time Gilead of CAMERA fame asked all his nascent astroturfers to start a big push for Israel's 60th.

        @dkapuchino - Sorry shiller, but you're the truly antisemitic anti-Israel scumbag Ziontologist astroturfer here. The Israeli people want you to stop speaking in their name, because they completely disagree with your methods and beliefs.
  • yonoz, on 05/12/2008, -34/+21http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/js2426.htm
    http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enforcement/key-iss ...
    http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/si_86_4/42e ...
    • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -24/+16Total "evidence" fail. The PA is a CIA-backed group and if the place really was under PA control it would be protected and preferred by Israel and the Bush admin.

      Gosh, after seeing your evidence, I'm SO GRATEFUL that the IOF is kicking 5000 orphans to the street! It was clear they were going to grow up in a toxic environment that didn't give a racist, bigoted view of Islam.

      I just love how you defend the most disgusting actions of the most vile people in the IOF and the Israeli government.

      Go Obama Go... oh wait, he's already won.
  • yumlum, on 05/12/2008, -14/+31shame
    • citizenchan, on 05/12/2008, -3/+5Shame indeed. As with any story, some things aren't reported. I only hope that doesn't include other things the soldiers took from the girls...
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+5I'll tell you what else they took from the girls - The brainwashing propaganda fed to them by Hamas, telling them they should all grow up to be Martyrs, and kill Israelis. Then they use people like you to brainwash people on the internet, further spreading their hatred and lies.
        • citizenchan, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3Contrary to what you'd like to think about the prerogatives of a person you don't know, I merely comment on a reality of war that we don't hear about. As for brainwashing.... For all I know, you are one of the many already brainwashed into thinking that what the news says is what happened. But as I said, I don't know you and I can't speak on your behalf as you so willingly spoke on mine. War is not clean, it's very dirty. To say the "good guys" aren't wrong is very far from truth. The truth is, US soldiers do this too, Russians, British, everyone - Because war is war, it doesn't smile for the camera, or stage publicity stunts. When you understand that, maybe you'll hesitate the next time you hypocritically berate another person's suppositions and pose your own.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+2Israeli soldiers are some of the most moral soldiers in the world. Sure, there are a few bad apples everywhere, but you won't find an army anywhere else in the world with such clear rules of engagement, so many canceled attacks due to fear of harming innocent civilians, so much money spent on developing precise weapons, as to minimize collateral damage, and an army where each and every soldier, even those that later have desk jobs, are taught in basic training what an Illegal order is, and why they have to disobey Illegal orders.
        • citizenchan, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1And you claimed I was the one with the agenda.
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -6/+4Shame that orphans are used by the Hamas as weapons as well. But then again, people that have no problem using mosques, ambulances, hospitals, pregnant women, and schools as human shields, shouldn't mind using orphans as well.
      One thing's for sure, I wouldn't want to be an orphan in an orphanage lead by extremist islamic terrorists. If you thought Oliver Twist had it bad, just wait till you get to a Hamas owned orphanage.
  • americangoy, on 05/12/2008, -14/+92Ah, I feel the love in this thread :-)

    For the record, people who criticize Israel and its policies are not necessarily Hamas supporters.

    Thought I should clear that up....
    • Tangaroa, on 05/12/2008, -29/+16For the record, the linked blogger and most of the people being criticized as such in these comments are Hamas supporters. Thought I should clear that up, too.
      • neocognitism, on 05/12/2008, -18/+21For the record, Tangaroa is an astroturfer who is part of the tiny minority of cult fanatics who support "Greater Israel" and neverending war. His words go against human decency and the will of the Israeli people, on a regular basis. He is a scumbag, who is a liar and anti-Israel antisemite.

        He fails to understand that not wanting to murder all of Hamas does not mean anti-Israel, in fact it means quite the opposite. He childishly sees things in an us-them doomsday scenario that he plays out here by opposing any kind of humanizing sentiment towards Hamas, the legitimate democratically elected government of Gaza.
        • Tangaroa, on 05/12/2008, -20/+12For the record, everything neocognitism just said is a lie and at the end it is pretty clear that he is a Hamas supporter.
        • gcnaddict, on 05/12/2008, -9/+5Jesus Christ, both of you shut the ***** up.
    • InfamousAtheist, on 05/12/2008, -10/+18Watch out, the zionists are going to come out of the woodwork to label you an anti-semite unless you fall in line, stop with the criticism, and start supporting the murder of orphaned children.
  • jaymzdean, on 05/12/2008, -48/+80Ah....Zionism.
    The Jewish KKK.
    • AhniTipesh, on 05/12/2008, -10/+26Yup, cause all of us zionists just seem normal, but secretly hold club meetings, plot our next arab lynching, and than go burn a jewish star on someones lawn.
      • Tomchei, on 05/12/2008, -12/+13They disguise themselves as americans and burn the american flag, mock christianity, and complain all the time.

        What happenes when you get 10 Jews in a a room? You get 11 opinions.
        • klasikahl, on 05/12/2008, -9/+11Thanks for the clarification, straight from the mouth of a real life KKK member.

          Did you know also know that Jews use the blood of newborn Christians to make their matzah? No wonder that unleavened bread is just mmm-mmm good!

          Too bad the Jews control the world's finances. When you wake up tomorrow, all these silly diggers will have drained bank accounts.

          /sarcasm
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+8Don't forget their Pointy noses and the children they kill for making Matzahs!!!!!
        • gerbil20, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1That's sarcasm, right?
      • EmporerTitus, on 05/12/2008, -2/+6Yes, Zionists were holding "secret club meetings" see the CAMERA / Isra-pedia scandal for details:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_fo ...
  • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -19/+49give me a break, is jimmy carter a bigoted anti-semite too for talking to hamas? just because you throw around hte word hamas supporter doesn't make it any worse than being a supporter of israel.. they are democratically elected whether you like it or not-- israel needs to get off its high horse and realize that a two-state solution NEEDS to involve *gasp* TWO states.. and that begins with talking to the other side.
    • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -20/+12Jimmy Carter isn't necessarily a bigot, or an anti-semite, but he certainly does act the part sometimes.

      I guess you wouldn't have any problems with him sitting down and negotiating with bin Laden?
      • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -8/+14where do you get off comparing hamas to bin laden? Hamas is a democratically elected representation of millions of people, so if you want a two-state solution, it is impossible for you to refuse to talk to the elected government of the other state and still try to pretend you're giving it your best shot.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -8/+8Has the Hamas been willing to recognize Israel or seek for a two-state solution?
          Just because you elect a terrorist organization that murders Israeli women and children, doesn't mean the Israelis have to talk to them. The Israelis can very well suspend the peace talks until Hamas stops being a terrorist group, or the Palestinians elect a different government.
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/12/2008, -1/+7Has Israel been willing to recognize that its squatting on Palestine for the past 60 years? No. Just because you elect a terrorist organization that murders Palestinian womena nd children, doesn't mean the Palestinians have to recognize them. You see it works both ways. The only difference is, one state lives in peace and comfort whereas the others live in poverty and squalor. Who do you think has the most to gain from a peace process?
            Israel is all about creating an ethnically Jewish state, they dont want palestinians there and they want all the neighboring arab countries to accept them as refugees. But the palestinians have a right to their land which they lived on BEFORE the israelis arrived (contrary to what your zionist propaganda will tell you). Read "the ethnic cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe, a Jewish and Israeli professor that currently teaches in Israel.

            Just because you are Jewish does not mean you need to side with Israel 24/7. They are committing atrocities against an innocent people that live in poverty and injustice-- where there is no quality of life, and there is nothing to live for. where the only way out is to fight back with what little means they have.
          • netant, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2But if you want to cash in on the weapons deals, and other perks, you need to side with Israel 24/7. Just ask Tony Blair about what Britain needed to do to Iraq in order to stay in America's good graces.
    • marksism, on 05/12/2008, -9/+16Hamas refuses to accept 2 states. They don't want Israel to exist at all. So, tit for tat.
      • blackjack75, on 05/12/2008, -4/+9Well if Israel had accepted the two state solution.. let me think.. 60 years ago, then the Palestinian wouldn't have voted for Hamas in the first place.
        • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/12/2008, -6/+3Can I borrow your time machine, genius?
        • quarkie, on 05/12/2008, -6/+4Israel did accept the two state solution 60 years ago.
          The Arab states didn't; Jordan and Egypt attacked and conquered the West Bank and Gaza. Hence the reason they were never under autonomous control.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -5/+4Way to go on rewriting history, retard. The Israelis accepted the two state solution. It was the Arabs who didn't and started the 1948 war. In that same war, the Arab states encouraged "Palestinians" to leave their homes, so the job of killing the Israelis would be easier. But here's the funny thing. You side with an enemy of Israel, and plot to destroy them, how the ***** do you expect Israel to just allow them to come back into Israel?
      • Totiki, on 05/12/2008, -2/+5"Partition was again proposed by the 1947 UN Partition plan for the division of Palestine. It proposed a three-way division, again with Jerusalem held separately, under international control. It too was rejected by the leadership of Arab nations and the Palestinian leadership at the time, although this plan was accepted by the Jewish inhabitants."

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_state_solution
        • EmporerTitus, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3How dare those anti-semites expect the founding of a country to reflect the Consent Of The Governed?
          What Nazis!
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -6/+3Need I remind you of what other elected leaders have engaged in the murderous intentional killings of women and children?
    • schneidafunk, on 05/12/2008, -2/+7The two sides are not equal, because Palestinians are dealing with two forces, Hamas and Fatah, which both have weapons. The Palestinians need ONE unified force before they can make peace (or war) with Israel.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+3two forces? You'd wish. They've got the PFLP, the DFLP, The Islamic Jihad, and now even hezbollah and Al Qeada supporters.
  • zerocool1990, on 05/12/2008, -38/+36Let's get down to it you Pro-Israeli assholes, what have you got against Hamas that is more terrible than what Israel does to Palestinians ? What did Hamas do that is so horrible that Carter met with it's leaders ?
    • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -23/+26Well, they're a terrorist group that targets innocent civilians, particularly women and children. They've proudly taken credit for many brutal terrorist attacks in the past.

      That's what they've done.

      But I guess terrorists are only evil when they kill non-Jewish kids?
    • MsAntiSunshine, on 05/12/2008, -13/+29If you supported Palestinians, you would turn away from support of Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization that encourages "martyrdom" in Palestinian citizens. They are extremists who target even hospitals and schools. Because of them, Israelis have to search ambulances before admitting them to the hospital due to ambulance hijackings carried out by Hamas. They have even been known to create children's programming telling Palestinian children to kill themselves for Allah.

      But. You know. Raiding an orphanage is way worse.
      • 911ArtStudent, on 05/12/2008, -15/+10so is this why Israel was one of the earliest supporters of Hamas?
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2They still are supporters of Hamas - by not sending in the IDF to get rid of them once and for all, for the benefit of both the Israeli and the Palestinian people.
      • source1984, on 05/12/2008, -4/+6and what of Israeli crimes? You only feel the pain when an innocent Jewish child dies and not when an Arab child dies?
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+4I don't know about her, but Israelis feel the pain for every child killed, Jewish or Arab. Just turn on Israeli TV, you'll understand that yourself.
          On the other hand, when a Jewish kid is killed, those animals are out on the street parading and handing out candies. Israelis are trying their best to kill only terrorists. It's hard when those terrorists use Palestinian women and children as Human Shields. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_sh ...
          Hamas on the other hand, not only doesn't try to avoid killing Innocent civilians, they actually put that as their goal. Israelis don't send 15 year olds to go perform massacres inside Palestinian schools, The Palestinians do:
          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avivim_school_bus_massacre
          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'alot_massacre
          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercaz_HaRav_shooting - just a month ago. 15 years slaughtered by a Palestinian gunman.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre - check this out, the Palestinians named a school in Hebron after the Terrorist woman to carry out this attack. Do you ***** comprehend that?
          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_massacre - Israeli 15 year olds slaughtered in a discotheque.

          Tell you the truth? I'm surprised the Israelis have been so restrained in their response to these animals.
    • StGhurka, on 05/12/2008, -6/+12"what have you got against Hamas that is more terrible than what Israel does to Palestinians?"

      Bus loads of civilians deliberately blown to pieces. Dozens of them.

      All my sympathy for the Palestinians evaporated when they started cheerfully murdering innocent people by the bus-load.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+3Jews should know better. The Germans taught them they should never get on a Train, Hamas has taught them not to get on buses.
      • source1984, on 05/12/2008, -3/+4screw your sympathy. Are you so shallow and biased that you ignore the Palestinian innocents being blown to pieces? Not just dozens.. HUNDREDS. Israel bombs more often than Hamas, kills more civilians than Hamas and in the end points the finger at Hamas for being a terrorist organization. If you want to be fair, BOTH are terrorist organizations, thats the reality on the ground. so both have to deal with each other.
        • StGhurka, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4"Not just dozens.. HUNDREDS."

          I didn't say dozens of Israelis. I said dozens of BUS-LOADS. If it was a few dozen israelis killed in the intifadas, I would have chalked it up to a few radical ass-holes responding to a ***** up situation. That sort of thing happens everywhere.

          But to Hamas, DELIBERATELY targeting CIVILIANS is a legitimate tactic. If that's how they feel, and if the Palestinian people vote them into office, then they have no right to act surprised when Israel defends herself with everything they've got.

          "Are you so shallow and biased that you ignore the Palestinian innocents being blown to pieces?"

          Nope. I just picked the side that doesn't DELIBERATELY blow INNOCENT people to pieces. I can tell the difference between DELIBERATE mass murder and collateral damage. If the Palestinians stopped suicide bombings and firing Qassam rockets at innocent civilians, Israel wouldn't have to tear ***** apart trying to fight the bad guys.

          Before the second intifada I would have been on your side demanding equal condemnation, but Hamas can't wash their hands of their crimes. They can't un-murder thousands of innocents and Gaza can't pretend they didn't vote those ass-holes into office.
        • source1984, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0Clearly you're not aware of collective punishment and Israel's intentional murder of civilians. Just because they do it in military uniform they can call it collateral damage.
    • JointVenture, on 05/12/2008, -3/+8Wow, you just proved the argument that JC's meeting with Hamas would legitimize the terrorist organization.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -3/+3All this coming from a guy with "Shahid"(Martyr) in his nickname.
    • bjs3171, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3regular bombings?
      • source1984, on 05/12/2008, -2/+3israel is more regular in its bombings than hamas. and israel's bombs kill more civilians (collective punishment).
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -3/+3Israel has put in millions if not billions into developing smart bombs, that cause as little collateral damage as possible. These bombs cost a ***** fortune. They don't just go firing them whenever they want, they make sure they have very precise intell before. Problem is, Hamas uses civilians as human shields. You shoot a terrorist firing at you from inside a building, little do you know, he's got a family at gun point with him. Dead women and children serve the Palestinian cause. Dead Israeli children, as to strike the enemy in where it most hurts, and dead Palestinian children, to get the world's sympath.
          Hamas killing Israeli kids: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_massacre
          Hamas killing Palestinian kids: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_sh ...
  • badassninja, on 05/12/2008, -29/+7Why don't we just mind are own business. These guys are at war, let them duke it out. I care when the USA does something wrong because I live here so it's my business.
    • MewTwo, on 05/12/2008, -10/+26You ***** dumbass, it is COMPLETELY your business. Who do you think is providing arms for Israel?
      We're Americans, USA is involved in EVERY goddamn 3rd world conflict and has done EVERYTHING wrong, so we need to care. Know what the ***** your government is doing in your name.
      • klasikahl, on 05/12/2008, -9/+6Yes, take advice from a digger named after a Pokemon. The educated are really out in full force for this thread.
        • mywhitenoise, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5I didn't read a single line that was wrong with her response, you prejudice *****.
  • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -43/+22Wow... usually anti-Israel threads pretend to mask the virulent hatred, but you folks have gone all out today.

    It's like stumbling into the NeoNazi book club meeting on Mein Kampf day.
    • 911ArtStudent, on 05/12/2008, -11/+15Great point wipeyearly. I mean who would have sympathy for a bunch of Islamofascist orphans but someone who hates Jews?
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -9/+9I'll tell you who has sympathy for those orphans - Israeli soldiers. If this was true, you have no Idea how much it brakes the heart of an Israeli soldier to go into an orphanage, knowing that the Palestinians are cynically using that orphanage to hide weapons and harbor terrorists.
        They've done it with mosques, hospitals, schools, they've used ambulances, "UN" and "TV" marked vehicles to transport terrorists and bombs, and they've called women and children to come "protect" the houses of Hamas leaders from Israeli strikes: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_sh ...
        what makes you think they don't do the same with orphanages?
        • 911ArtStudent, on 05/12/2008, -4/+4Is that why they were smiling and laughing - because they were heartbroken? GTFO of here!
  • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -55/+83So, just so we're clear here:

    #1) No one was injured or killed.

    #2) The circumstances of the raid are completely unknown.

    #3) The pictures are grainy and the nationality of the soldiers, the location of the raid, and any detail of activity is completely speculative.

    Yeah, sounds like you guys have made your case. Israel is the devil. Lets start building us some concentration camps.
    • HumanCattle, on 05/12/2008, -20/+38Ahh he's playing the Hitler card.

      Intellectual Checkmate. Argument over. Israel wins!
      • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -10/+15Israel's founding and legitimacy has a lot to do with Hitler and Nazi Germany. The argument doesn't have to end there, but it ought to begin there.
        • tman84, on 05/12/2008, -7/+18We can't ever let people forget the only attempted genocide that's ever occured in the entire history of the planet
          • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -3/+15not the only attempted genocide. The turks tried to wipe out the Armenians for example.
          • amdahlj, on 05/12/2008, -3/+5ORLY?
          • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -1/+8yeah. Hitler used the Turk's Armenian genocide as a model for his own.
          • nycmac247, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3wow
            just...wow

          • arjie, on 05/12/2008, -1/+6That was a joke of some sort, yes? What about the whole Spanish Inquisition? Actually, yeah, that's got to be a joke, forgive me, there are too many counter examples.
          • ad33lshahid, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2haha to "ORLY" and flossdaily eating it up
          • amdahlj, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Hitler's real claim to fame is fully exploiting economies of scale in genocide. Gotta love that facist efficiency...
    • borez, on 05/12/2008, -22/+10#4 You're Israeli
      • flossdaily, on 05/12/2008, -8/+19No, I'm not. But thanks for playing.

        Actually I'm an American, and a Liberal, and an Obama supporter.

        I'm one of those rare Liberals that actually bothered to learn about Israeli history instead of just repeating the crap that I hear in chat rooms.
        • leexy, on 05/12/2008, -9/+6Who better than Jews to tell you about Israel?
          http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -5/+4Who better than a Palestinian terrorist to tell you about Palestinians:
          http://www.shoebat.com/
          The only difference, is that this guy would be lynched if he ever came back to his homeland. Any Jew, regardless of his thoughts, as skewed and ***** up as they may be, has a place in Israel.
        • source1984, on 05/12/2008, -3/+3Oh, you learned about Israeli history?? from who? Neocons? Learn Israeli history from the mideast academics and them come back to us, I have a feeling you won't be such a big zionist after doing so.
    • dubdope, on 05/12/2008, -5/+10close down an orphanage and then use concentration camp at the end of your justification.

      classic.
    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -5/+6I know the CPT people, they would go to the stake before lying about something like this.
    • Infidelcastr0, on 05/12/2008, -3/+9You made three very good points and then went and ruined it with the usual "OMG ANTISEMITISM!" crap. People have a right to question Israel's actions (just as you have a right to defend them). Especially considering how much money we give to Israel. Go right ahead and argue your case, it's good that you do so, but please, stick to the facts, not ridiculous accusations of bigotry.
    • kayvman78, on 05/12/2008, -6/+12So let me get this straight:

      1) It's ok to raid an orphanage and say they were terrorist front?
      2) It's not enough to go and investigate and ask questions, you have to destroy their livelyhood on a hunch.
      3) People are just supposed to stand by and not criticize a monstrous government of isolationists and elitists?

      The rest of the world will not stand by and watch Isreal destroy it;s own brothers. Whether you want to believe you are some special people or not. Get over yourselve, stop using the holocaust to commit your own crimes.
      • nickert0n, on 05/12/2008, -4/+2What Israel does to palestinans is notthing compared to what america does to its own. So before you can say Israel we will not stand for this, first you would have to grow the balls to fix your own problems.
        btw Im canadian and we have are own share of problems so Im not saying were perfect either.
        • 911ArtStudent, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3America raids and loots orphanages and keeps millions of civilians under martial law for more than forty years ?
      • ad33lshahid, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3but, but... they are God's chosen people..
    • nickert0n, on 05/12/2008, -3/+4***** eh man, you said what I was thinking.
    • j0c1f3r, on 05/12/2008, -3/+121/isreal does something horrible
      2/claim anyone that bashes them an anti-semite
      3/compare them to hitler
      4/claim they are insane like hitler
      5/win argument......

      the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making everyone believe that he doesn't exist
  • Roryking, on 05/12/2008, -16/+3the raid was going well until the tank went ninja on us and made off with all the good loot
  • madfrogurt, on 05/12/2008, -33/+83Can someone please explain why an organized, well financed army would enter a civilian orphanage to loot sewing machines? Do all of you anti-Israel people really think they organized a raiding party for tables? Where they there just to screw with the local populous then? Why didn't they kill a few orphans while they were at it then? It just seems that if you're going to run a genocide against the Palestinian people, you could do a better job.

    Do you think that maybe, just maybe, there was a chance that the orphanage was a front for a terrorist organization? I think it can be universally agreed that Palestinian terrorist organizations have used civilian fronts before, and like I said, I don't think raiding an orphanage for sewing machines is economically sound.
    • Liam76, on 05/12/2008, -14/+29Is there any proof they are Israelis soilders, any proof of where it happened, etc? All we have is grainy film of some guys chopping up tables.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -6/+16Dugg down by mistake.
        The palestinians have been known to fake videos and photographs, such as the "Mass burial" in Jenin, where you suddenly see the dead standing up, walking a few meters away, and then playing dead again.
        • klasikahl, on 05/12/2008, -3/+11Oh Jenin was hilarious. The UN even came in and inspected and found deaths in dozens, if I recall correctly, of which almost all were confirmed terrorists.
      • schneidafunk, on 05/12/2008, -5/+10I had a similar thought because why is the camera speaking English?
        • blackjack75, on 05/12/2008, -3/+4He's an american missionary... CPT (Christian thing)
      • punkcat, on 05/12/2008, -3/+9yeah the article is incredibly one sided. i kept scanning for information on why and couldn't find any.
        also they use the term "loot" which would imply stealing but obviously its a group of soldiers wouldn't try their hand at smuggling for some sewing machines.

        i also found it disturbing that an orphanage would have the makings for a sweat shop on the first floor.

    • s2ao, on 05/12/2008, -24/+15Yes, and why would a rich democracy want to take land and water from people who have 1/10 of there per-capita GDP?
      Why would they put a checkpoint on a road between two Palestinian villages, when no Israelis use that road?
      Why would they stop a pregnant woman from getting to the nearby hospital because the checkpoint is closed after 10 pm?
      Why would they imprison thousands of Palestinians, including children under the age of 16, with no evidence?
      Why would they reject unilateral truce offers from Hamas. when they've got nothing to lose?
      Why would they refuse people building permits on their own land, and then when the family spends 20 years worth of savings on buildin a home, it gets bulldozed by this aforementioned organized army?

      Beats me...you can write the Israeli defence ministry to ask...they do these things on a daily basis/
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -6/+14Let's answer it one by one.
        Why would the Arabs want to fight with the Israelis over a strip of land that is so small, you can't even spot it on a map, when the entire arab world is thousands of times bigger than that?
        Why would Palestinians use those roads to transport gunmen and weapons?
        Why would Palestinian women strap bombs on their stomachs, and tell Israeli soldiers they're pregnant? http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Security/120 ...
        Why would Palestinians send 15 year olds(!!!!!!!) to blow themselves up in Israeli malls?
        http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1020.php
        Why would they teach hatred and that all jews should be killed to 8 year olds?
        http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tomorrow ...
        Why would they accept a truce offer from Hamas, that they clearly state is only for one year, after which the will resume killing Israelis? (During this time, they will mostly use the calm to booby trap every ally, and smuggle weapons).
        Why would they refuse building permits to Israeli Jews and bulldoze their homes? There's a reason building permits were invented. They apply to Jews as well as they apply to Arabs. If anything, the Israeli government has destroyed more Jewish Illeagly built homes then they ever destroyed Arab homes.

        You definitely can write to the Israeli Defense Ministry. They'd be glad to supply you with all the evidence collected over the years on how the Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have been cynically using civilians as human shields, just so they can get a few "good" pictures in to the news.
    • dubdope, on 05/12/2008, -10/+11this is not the first time israel has used the tactic of punishing the palestinians for being associated with hamas in order to reduce hamas' power. look at the condition that the gazans are living under right now.

      you are trying to justify a policy that hurts innocent people. shame on you.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -8/+5The conditions the Gazans are living under now is an Imaginary situation created by the Palestinian government. We've seen how desperate they were for aid, when they broke down the wall bordering egypt, and instead of coming back with food, they came back with TVs, boom boxes and motorcycles.
        • dubdope, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1the gazans are living under an imaginary situation created by the palestinian government?

          so all the aid organizations and human rights organizations are lying about the conditions the gazans are living under and the reasons for them and you're telling the truth?

          you are a real piece of work dkapuchino. your ability to flat out lie in order to further your agenda makes me sick.

    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -6/+7I know the CPT people, they are mostly Quakers and Mennonites. They would go to the stake before lying about something like this. You, on the other hand, have nothing but speculation and a "Zion Zion Uber Alles" agenda.
    • zolthar, on 05/12/2008, -6/+8Because that's what the people who digg this article want to read, and if it makes no sense, they will complete the twisted logic by themselves.
    • kayvman78, on 05/12/2008, -4/+3Because they think that land is theirs and hey believe they have the right to do ANYTHING to take it or keep it.
    • blackjack75, on 05/12/2008, -5/+3Because having an orphanage as a front-end for a terrorist organization.. THAT would make sense. This way when the police enters and asks if you're terrorists you can just say "no we are an orphanage".

      Orphan girls are so easy to find. It's just too easy. How smart from them.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+3The orphanage isn't a front-ed for a terrorist org, it's a back-end. This is where it starts. They use the orphanage to brainwash little orphans, and who better to go blow themselves up in a few years if not those that already have nothing?
    • jessehadden, on 05/12/2008, -4/+10Let me get this straight... after all of the forced displacement, the massacres, the collective punishment, the war crimes, and the violations of international law... you're going to play the "it's inconceivable" card?
    • mangosinslo, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1thank you.. ***** a.
      someone who is willing to actually look at things in an educated manner.
  • LifeSaverS, on 05/12/2008, -27/+22this story looks legitimate /sarcasm
  • dleesgeetar, on 05/12/2008, -26/+32pretty messed up, but its not nearly the worst injustice the Israeli army has committed against its weaker neighbors
    • jayjay80, on 05/12/2008, -7/+7Would you care to elaborate?
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -4/+2Lets say the Chinese had an orphanage led by a Terrorist organization. In that "orphanage", Orphans were taught that they have no family, it's the Americans fault (even if their parents died in a car accident), and the only way they can go to heaven and avenge their parent's death is by blowing themselves in American towns, killing American children. Would you stand by calmly and let this happen? Or would you wait until they reach 16, when they can actually go and blow themselves up in American towns?
  • borez, on 05/12/2008, -20/+25"Israeli Army raids orphanage in Hebron"

    If you can't see what's wrong with that statement, then you're sick.
    • zolthar, on 05/12/2008, -5/+5True, it makes no sense.

      We need to wait for official Israeli response, either they will present with whatever weapon stash they found there (looks like the common anti-Israeli tactic), or apologize and explain the incident in case they made an error. or is it fake? why the hell should they do that? there's plenty of terrorists to arrest/neutralize outside the orphanage.
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -8/+4A terrorist organisation, Hamas, which has killed hundreds if not thousands of Israeli women and children is running that orphanage. It's using that orphanage to spread hatred against Israel, and to teach those poor kids that they should become martyrs.

      If you can't see what's wrong with that statement, then you're sick.
      • acudoc, on 05/12/2008, -2/+6Israel good, Arabs bad, Israel good, Arabs bad, Israel good, Arabs bad.....I am so sick of this ***** from the controllled American press. This video clip is a refreshing look at reality. The Zionist Jews, with the aid and support of Western governments, established a Jewish state on land that was already occupied by another people. Sixty years later the sore still festers and the Israelis continue to expand into the West Bank. An eye for an eye policy will soon lead to total blindness, how many future terrorists have they created among the students at that school-----and guess what? The Israelis are totally outnumbered and surrounded in the Arab world---yet they continue to alienate any moderate Palestinians that remain. In the end they will be forced to use their nuclear weapons out of desperation and another holocaust will occur, this time engulfing the whole world. You might as well kiss thepresent state of Israel goodbye as it will become a fortress on a hill, totally secure but with np trafficking with the outside world. How can such a talented people be so stupid? They have lost the moral high ground, and in Fourth Generation war, that is fatal (same thing that is happening to us in Iraq on a bigger scale).....but, to be honest, there is really only one thing I know for sure, and that is: my son will not be drafted to fight a war for the Israelis and their continued land grab (nor to ensure a supply of oil from the Middle East). If they want to play victimhood till their bitter end, so be it.
        • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2Actually, there are quite a few good Arabs. The Jordanians for example. Once a sworn enemy, the Jordanians have proven to be valuable allies. The problem is, most of them don't have the balls to stand up to the extremists that are representing them.
  • elamr, on 05/12/2008, -6/+26Sometimes I wonder if there is any truth in that part ot the world anymore. Seems like theres only thousands of years of religious hate, revenge and resentment. Why are we in the middle east at all? We should not support Saudi Arabia, Palestine OR Isreal. We should support the American people.
    • leexy, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4More like half a century of hate.
    • StGhurka, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3Ok, I'll sign on, but how serious are YOU? Think about it before you answer.

      Are you willing to pay a $2.50/gallon gas tax? Are you willing to support drilling for oil all over the US? Will you accept nuclear power plants just outside of your town? Are you willing to NEVER buy a car that gets less than 30 mpg?

      Also, if we cease to exert influence in the middle east, are you ok with the consequences? Namely, the expanded influence of the other powers in this world. Global players like China and Russia and local players like Saudi Arabia and Iran and Syria would choose up sides and commence to try to expand their respective spheres of influence. How do you see the middle east shaping up if we wash our hands of it? Serious question - what do you think the positives would be 5 years out?
    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4There is plenty of truth coming out of there, but the mass media steadfastly refuse to report it. I know the CPT people, they are mostly Quakers and Mennonites, and they would go to the stake before lying about something like this.

      Re oil and policy, guess what? Against gold, the price of oil has been rock stable for over a decade with no signs of recent change. Against the dollar... well, that's what happens to the value of currency when you use wars of conquest to enter deep deficit spending, shovelling hundreds of billions of counterfeit dollars into your family and business partner's pockets.
  • macweirdo42, on 05/12/2008, -11/+49Damnit... If I take Israel's side, I'm a Zionist. If I take Palestine's side, I'm an antisemite. If I suggest both sides should just shut the ***** up and learn to live with each other, I'm a antisemitic Zionist.
    • gcnaddict, on 05/12/2008, -2/+3You could abstain... then you're a neitherist?
    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -1/+5How about taking the side of truth, no matter what people with other agendas call you?
    • zolthar, on 05/12/2008, -0/+7If you are against Israel it doesn't make you Anti-Semite,
      As there are plenty of Jews against Israel's policy, including Israeli citizens at the government's left wing opposition - how can they be Anti-Semite?
      If the Arab culture had it's own left wing of relative political power, it could help a lot.
  • suzywang3000, on 05/12/2008, -12/+11I can't stand orphans.
  • endoccupation, on 05/12/2008, -19/+34Israel's 2 defense PR strategies.
    1) We are conducting an investigation--which never has a conclusion and fades from the media, or
    2) Militants were storing weapons there
    Either way Israel continues to get away with murder
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -7/+4As opposed to how the Palestinians responded to them hitting an Israeli school and injuring children with a Qasam rocket?
      1. We celebrate our brave warriors in striking fear in the hearts of the Israeli enemy.
      2. May allah guide our next missles into their homes, their childrens homes, and their grandchildrens homes.
      3. www.israel-wat.com/pps/israeli-children.pps
    • zolthar, on 05/12/2008, -2/+5You remind me of the old woman who went to a road block and cried that she is sick and in pain.
      When 2 military medics took her out of the Palestinian crowd to have a look and help her in the emergency room, BOOM.
  • galvo, on 05/12/2008, -4/+5Dugg for Amy Reid.
  • ArchieAndrews, on 05/12/2008, -9/+25All this and much, much more on next week's episode of "Only One Side of the Story!". Tune in!
    • dubdope, on 05/12/2008, -2/+8the other side says it is doing so because the orphanage is associated with hamas.

      does this justify their action?

      • ArchieAndrews, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6It doesn't matter. Both sides will tell their own biased, self-serving version and we will align with which ever version matches our desired viewpoint. The bottom line is that you will never have enough knowledge of the incident being reported here to make any kind of decision about culpability or bottom line intent. Anyone who does is simply advancing an agenda they are predisposed to, either pro-Israel or anti-Zionist.
    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -3/+4There is only one side to the truth. I know the CPT people, they would go to the stake before lying about something like this.
      • ArchieAndrews, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5I wholeheartedly agree about there only being one side to the truth. Sadly, the _vast_ majority of reports of incidents from this region are biased to a particular agenda. Your "standing up for" CPT means nothing to me., I don't know you from a hole in the ground. All "conflict" reporting is propaganda to some degree and the mid-east has been a hotbed of competing propaganda machines for years now, by both sides. The truth is an elusive commodity in the mideast in terms of "war reporting".
  • elvenseven, on 05/12/2008, -14/+13Disgusting.
  • keyme, on 05/12/2008, -8/+26I'm ashamed. I hope for a reasonable explanation, but I don't think I'm going to hear it.
    Soon I'll join IDF myself, hopefully though, I won't have to do or put up with anything of the kind.

    To the IDF's defense, I can see no reason for the army to loot sewing machines. Some reasonable explanation has to exist...
    • klasikahl, on 05/12/2008, -11/+14Well, as I'm sure you're aware, the extremists like to hide weapons in the most sacred places possible. Hospitals, schools, orphanages, etc. It is great cover because when the IDF goes to raid the cache, articles like this crop up. If the article read more like "Hamas putting orphaned children in a weapons cache as body shields", then people might understand what is truly going on here.

      I'm pretty distraught at seeing how anti-Semitic digg has become. I don't mean anti-Zionist, I mean hating Jews because they are Jews. There are countless posts that fit the bill here.

      It's not just digg either. In Spain, anti-Jewish sentiment is the norm. Then again, that's what we have eretz Yisrael for, right?

      NEVER AGAIN!!
      • elig, on 05/12/2008, -3/+8"The spread of Antisemitism 2.0 relies on the ignorance of the masses, the ability to manipulate them, and the pure democracy of Web 2.0 where each uninformed opinion counts just as much as an expert's analysis. Web 2.0 is a mass movement that lends legitimacy to the majority opinion and uses peer pressure as an effective tool against those who disagree with the consensus."

        -- Online Antisemitism 2.0. "Social Antisemitism" on the "Social Web", Dr. Andre Oboler
        (Google for the rest)
        • EmporerTitus, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2Antisemitism 2.0 is a marketing ploy for the Holocaust Industry that survivor Norm Finkelman has convincingly skewered:

          "Finkelstein writes: Since the late 1960s, there has developed a kind of Holocaust industry which has made a cult of the Nazi Holocaust. And the purpose of this industry is, in my view, ethnic aggrandisement - in particular, to deflect criticism of the State of Israel and to deflect criticism of Jews generally.[4]

          and My concern in this book is [...] restoring the integrity of the historical record and the sanctity of the Jewish people’s martyrdom. I deplore the Holocaust industry’s corruption of history and memory in the service of an extortion racket.[5]"

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_Industr ...
    • chrisjj, on 05/12/2008, -8/+7I suggest, for your own sanity's sake, and for your own conscience, you instead join the brave Israeli 'refusenicks' who refuse to participate in IDF operations in the occupied territories.
    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -6/+9Anti-semitism is the price Judaism pays for tolerating Zionism. You have no one to blame but yourselves.
      • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -6/+3Anti-semitism is the price for being a Jew. Zionism is the only way in which Judaism can ensure it's future.
    • blackjack75, on 05/12/2008, -5/+5If only there was a nice place where Jews could live in peace and not have to go for a mandatory 3 year -long service in the army in order to enforce a 60 year-old occupation...

      Seriously, why don't you come back to Europe? We're less anti-semitic than the arabs nowadays. I promise.
  • megamike23, on 05/12/2008, -12/+32yeah israel should just fire rockets blindly at them next time, because firing rockets is acceptable
    • Kizilbash, on 05/12/2008, -4/+4You obviously aren't paying much attention. Israel showers the Gaza Strip with rockets daily.
  • DroogInPhoenix, on 05/12/2008, -11/+3We should bomb them both
  • Landlocked, on 05/12/2008, -15/+10Just as long as they don't send tanks blasting into refugee camps...oh, wait.

    This isn't a MSM issue...it's a Zionist-run media issue.
    • AhniTipesh, on 05/12/2008, -6/+10You seriously think Jews control the American Media?
      • EmporerTitus, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1I could show you the list, but you'd just find some way to spin, deflect, and dance around the facts.
  • pintomp3, on 05/12/2008, -13/+12i can't believe people are justifying this. you are no better than those who justify attacks against israel.
    • jayjay80, on 05/12/2008, -7/+5Look, I support Israel in most cases, but not in this one (assuming this is not biased). And I don't see anyone else actually justifying it.
      • o0Tinuviel0o, on 05/12/2008, -4/+7Assuming this is not biased is not smart...if anyone actually looked at the website it's completely Palestinian with no Israeli input! Of course it's biased! Anything with only one side and not the other IS biased, and Palestinians have been PROVEN to perpetrate false evidence of atrocities against them JUST to hurt Israel's reputation.
        • jayjay80, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Pretty much what I meant, but in much better words.

          Anyway.
    • zolthar, on 05/12/2008, -3/+3nobody supports. however, many believe it's a biased one sided version of the story.
  • Shadowgamers, on 05/12/2008, -11/+13When I went to Israel last, I saw a surprising lack of sowing machines, furniture and cloths. This is totally justified! I mean, think of the poor bare clothed Israelis without furniture!

    Ha ha! Unreliable sources. Also Error connecting to database.
    • pilobilus, on 05/12/2008, -4/+7Stone reliable sources, the best in the world in fact. CPT is a joint Quaker - Mennonite program, and truth is their most fundamental value. If caught in a lie about something this awful, they would be shunned by their communities. I would gladly bet my life on their reports being factual.
      • stfucupcake, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Who cares about actual facts when it conflicts with ongoing Israeli propaganda?
  • israfeel, on 05/12/2008, -21/+16I wonder how the zionists justify frequent rapes and abuse of Palestinian women and teens by the Israeli army.
    • JointVenture, on 05/12/2008, -10/+9Hey, at least they arent 9 years old like the little kid that Mohamed raped/*****.
      • nitsmeister, on 05/12/2008, -5/+3i see... someone's watching 5 year old babies porn... or is it a nose fetish? :X
    • Shadowgamers, on 05/12/2008, -8/+9I wonder how Palestinians justify frequent anti-zionist propoganda, suicide bombings and killing their own people to achieve it.

      Oh wait.
    • dkapuchino, on 05/12/2008, -3/+8They don't justify it, because it doesn't happen.
      On the other hand, how do you justify this?
      www.israel-wat.com/pps/israeli-children.pps
    • nitsmeister, on 05/12/2008, -2/+6i wonder how your parents justify your birth
      • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4Well, israfeel's mother got frisky with her first cousin, and the rest is history!
      • JointVenture, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Probably the same way Khomeni justified sex with small boys and animals.
  • adamintoronto, on 05/12/2008, -10/+20countless times in the past hamas has fired ketusha rockets from schools, and social service buildings clearly making it almost impossible to fire on these terrorists without hurting civilians. but instead of looking at those instances, lets all watch in anguish as a few tables are destroyed..
    • abyss20, on 05/12/2008, -5/+7i agree with every word, nobody is showing the world the poor Israel kids who are loosing arms and legs or the homeless families from all the dozens of bombs that are being fired at Israel every day, but when the Gaza people is ran of fuel for they're rocket launchers, it's a huge story.
      • dkapuch