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Video Captures Stoning of Kurdish Teenage Girl
aina.org — According to the Kurdish website Jebar.info up to 1000 men from the Yezidi Kurdish community of Mosul killed a teenager who's only crime was running away to marry a Muslim man whom she loved and converting to his religion.
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- DCMacHead, on 11/04/2007, -9/+365These people are savages.
- rabidstrike, on 10/10/2007, -52/+9If it wasn't for Islam, they would have been a thriving community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi
They are fighting a losing battle against Islam. It's only natural that traitors be murdered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du%E2%80%99a_Khalil_Aswad
Indeed very inhumane. I would rather let a community and religion die that do this. But some people are as fanatic as the opposition. Equate such punishments with what medivial europe. What would have the world been without them.- eddeh, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2Exactly, just like medival europe, that's the way we bahaved then, we've matured and learned alot since then, obviously you PEOPLE have not....
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Sorry for the thread hijack, but if anyone's interested, there's a petition to sign regarding this incident. I don't know how much it'll help signing it, but I did.
I thought it was the least I could do...
http://www.petitiononline.com/kurdish/petition.html- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I think something like this is good enough not to be criticized for thread hijacking. Thanks for the link!
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/10/2007, -64/+32We must civilize them by brining them the word of Jesus Christ, and forcing it down their throats with bullets.
- themangeraaad, on 10/10/2007, -13/+24I can do nothing more but to hope that was said with extreme sarcasm...
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11I hope so too.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -8/+6something is wrong with digg lately... Good comments are being buried down with a fervor
- gmprunner, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16I guess we must also civilize you by bringing you a dictionary, then force it down your throat with digg-downs.
- Cwo655321, on 10/10/2007, -10/+1i'm gonna use my dick instead.
- tchon92, on 10/10/2007, -10/+3hmmm ... 2 words
BAD CHRISTIAN - GasPoweredGnome, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5What a tool.
- acl123, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24I think America needs to be civilized by forcing hours and hours of British TV down their throats until they understand the brilliance of sarcasm.
- Cwo655321, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3no one deserves that.
- aywwts4, on 10/10/2007, -5/+28Jesus-*****-Christ digg, If that wasn't the most obviously sarcastic post ever I don't know know what else would win that award. I know the forcing it down their throats with bullets" was just a bit too subtle, Does anyone even think before they digg down anymore? Does every post that makes a joke really have to end in /Sarcasm for you to get it?! I always hope people got dugg down because the time the average digger uses to moderate a post is measured in milliseconds, but no, people actually responded, decided, yes, this probably really is a Christian trying to spread the word of Christ on digg (With bullets no less!) Burn him!
/Hostile /Disappointed- buckuems, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I think after seeing a video like that, reading your comment is shocking. People aren't expecting sarcasm and such violent sarcasm at that.
- skulljar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Think about it. What kind of people on Digg are gravitating towards this article? Conservatives who want another good reason to fear Muslims. So when someone uses sarcasm and Jesus in the same sentence, it goes right past conservatives, because they're mostly stupid ***** sheeple, and they just don't get it.
- buckuems, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I think after seeing a video like that, reading your comment is shocking. People aren't expecting sarcasm and such violent sarcasm at that.
- realclark, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1troll
- Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Man you guys are idiots. IT'S SARCASM.
- themangeraaad, on 10/10/2007, -13/+24I can do nothing more but to hope that was said with extreme sarcasm...
- potdarko, on 10/10/2007, -17/+6Savages r' us! Come to portugal, we have bullfighting here... :S
- TGMD, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17Are you equating bullfighting to stoning an innocent girl?
If so you're an idiot- potdarko, on 10/10/2007, -16/+4What made you jump to that conclusion? Are you holding a stone?
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3I'm against bullfighting morally. However the bulls are still killed more dignity than this girl was. They stab a bull with a sword, hopefully killing it in one hit.
The girl on the other hand was tortured to death.- Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Actually, no. Bullfighting, although nowhere near this stoning of a human, is far more cruel than that. Prior to entry into the ring the bull is stabbed repeatedly in the neck to destroy its neck muscles, meaning it can't hit and flip the matador.
- TGMD, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17Are you equating bullfighting to stoning an innocent girl?
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I agree! There are some very sick people out there.
- Spoomeister, on 10/10/2007, -11/+15Yep. And the only thing rock-throwing savages respond to or respect, is a fella with a larger rock.
I'm jus' sayin'. - Soniti, on 10/10/2007, -11/+32You know it's a sad state of affairs when one of their own countrymen (A manager at my last job, who had just come to the US) says that they "need to be sent back to the ***** stone age, not that they've come that far anyways".
These people make my heart ache, and I truly hope that some day we find a reason to blow them off the ***** map. To quote Syriana "The rest of the world thinks that 100 years ago, you were cutting each others heads off in the sand. And 100 years from now, you'll be doing the exact same thing.".
I feel sick.
~Soniti - NSMike, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6What are you talking about? Haven't you heard? We call this "progress" now.
- Relativitys, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3But isn't it ironic that they can use modern technology such as cellphones and cameras but still cannot change their thousand-year old belief....
- BeefBaron, on 10/10/2007, -10/+22Religion kills, and promotes mass stupidity.
Not sure why we let it go on, probably because the world is run by these idiots. - aussieNickuss, on 10/10/2007, -13/+5I don't believe in heaven and hell,but I'll say this. That girl has gone to heaven and is in a much better place, but those men will go to the deepest bowls of hell and will burn forever.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7uhh, what?
- Dinosaur88, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1harbl
- Pritchard, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1She's dead.
- richardhenry, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I don't think what you said made any sense.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7uhh, what?
- storm8956, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Yes, but they are in their own time; evolving at their own pace. Look over history of the U.S. in its early days, such as the untamed west and Mexican/Native/American relations, and things were not much different.
- Wiggles2, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1.
- DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3...and that's how the rest of the world was at the time too. Now almost the entire world has developed further as they should and the same things are still happening in this place.
Changing the way things are done to a better way does not make you a hypocrite when confronting others who have not changed.- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2And? We cannot fix that with wars (that have other goals anyway).
We can promote reason here and try to influence the world with science and modernization. We also need to abandon religions here.- DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I agree, and you ultimately finished my point in response to storm8956 saying that we were just like them at one point.
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2And? We cannot fix that with wars (that have other goals anyway).
- Azurensis, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18Yes, they are. What's worse is that these people, the Kurds, are our *allies* in Iraq. These are the people we are there to protect. ***** them all.
- IsmailOo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Yes, ***** them, the only reason they are being friends with us is they know when Iraq falls apart they will most likely get the northern area, but probably the Turks will ***** them again :)
- 35263526, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Kurd != Yezidi
- Osjpr, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5http://digg.com/world_news/American_Israelis_Stone_Old_Lady_While_Soldiers_Look_On
- Osjpr, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2http://digg.com/world_news/American_Israelis_Stone_Old_Lady_While_Soldiers_Look_On
- Chicken001, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3No. They just need a big hug and a cup full of warm milk and cookies. Solution to any sort of hatred.
- Osjpr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11***** hypocrites
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm (graqhic)- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Absolutely.
Noone should ever have to look at the pictures above, but if you're complicit in this war (voted for it, or didn't vote for it but remain apathetic in it's presence) you should click through the page upon page of disgusting reprehensible violence that's occured at the hands of the Bush Administration (all for weaker reasons than wanting to marry a muslim) - ChileanGoD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Oh my ***** god! Imagine how much support for wars we would have with these images flying arround in the news all day. NONE.
- rrossen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Of course, none of the 9/11 victims looked like that, they all got nicely killed without pain in a clean manner. It was such a more civilized attack!
/sarcasm - Stevethegreat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Iraq had -from the very beginning- no connections with 9/11, those people on the pictures were killed for no good reason (they were murdered).....
- bills534, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I dont think anybody here supports this war bush has waged against Iraq. so so calling everybody a hypocrite isnt really nessecary.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Absolutely.
- Wiggles2, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Not savages. This is man. Man, the only creature on the planet who can be sadistic. This is us. Any of us (or even the victim) could be one of those men in the video under different circumstances.
- catmistake, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2DNA proves they are human... but what separates us from them is that sneaky hidden chasm of ignorance, and that they are ***** savages and we are not.
- Osjpr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm (graqhic)
- shaelen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1We?
- obeythefist, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The only creature that can be sadistic? You've obviously never owned a cat.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2It's not man... it's evil men when good men do nothing...
The same occurs in any country... you don't need to look very far to see that... - Smills, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Technically men and cats (they are the well known ones) cats will kill birds just for fun and not to eat just like humans will kill pretty much any animal and other humans for the same reason.
- JiaoYang, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0No. You are retarded. Why would you think of yourself as inherently sadistic by nature you goddamn emo? Those people are idiots and simply don't know what the ***** they're doing because they follow their religion blindly. Those people are fearful and ignorant, by choice, and that's what sets us apart.
- catmistake, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2DNA proves they are human... but what separates us from them is that sneaky hidden chasm of ignorance, and that they are ***** savages and we are not.
- obeythefist, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Our two biggest allies: Saudi Arabia and China. Suck on that a minute.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Why didn't the ***** cameraman pan the faces of those disgusting demonic monsters in the circle (I would call them animals, but animals don't act like this)
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8they are just being religious
- NihilFist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Best comment possible.
- ChoiceMad, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0I agree. That is the best justification for the actions displayed. However, let's next try to justify the religion itself (or any religion).
- NihilFist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Best comment possible.
- SigmaEcho, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2These people are Religious.
- richardhenry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The sky is blue.
- richardhenry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Quite sick to be honest. I could only watch half of one.
- rrossen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No single excuse can make this right, not religion, not the "war against terrorism", not poverty, not money, nothing. It's a perfect example of having no decency, respect for other living beings and the lack of seeing the difference between right and wrong.
imho these people are less that the turd i flushed down the toilet this morning. Im sure Allah/Mohammed or w/e got some real wood watching their "followers" and "believers" do what they told them to do....
this makes me sick - DrHoliday, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yazdani, not Muslim. Half of the commentators above and below don't even make this distinction. Times like this you see the intolerance and generalizations come out.
- ryanlive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It makes no difference if they are Yazdani or Muslim as they both practice stoning. Keep your dogma to yourself sir.
- rabidstrike, on 10/10/2007, -52/+9If it wasn't for Islam, they would have been a thriving community.
- CiDaemon, on 10/10/2007, -98/+18Nothing worse than what we've done. Keep it in perspective.
- thewatchman, on 10/10/2007, -8/+35ok, I'll bite--- what have "we" done?
- Mist0r_Wiggles, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3depending on which "we" your talking about, dont act like "your" culture's ***** dont stink. EVERY culture has done something stupid. The difference is some learn from their mistakes and some don't.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4My culture? Let's rephrase the question... What have I done?
- tony4moroney, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4lynched black people and burned women for being witches
- sabach, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Slaughtered Native Americans and after the slaughter ended deliberately infected them with smallpox.
- diggnitarial, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah but, personally, I haven't given any natives smallpox or lynched any black people. The people in the "past" who did that are savages as well, but this is happening in the present and the fact that we have done similar things in our past doesn't make this any less barbaric. Cultural sensitivity in this case, is bs, these people are SAVAGES.
- Mist0r_Wiggles, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3depending on which "we" your talking about, dont act like "your" culture's ***** dont stink. EVERY culture has done something stupid. The difference is some learn from their mistakes and some don't.
- rabidstrike, on 10/10/2007, -36/+10Killed millions for starters. But this is not the point. Move along.
- skidme, on 10/10/2007, -7/+26I'm sorry, but what millions have "we" killed? Are you talking about the people killed from the start of time?
- Mist0r_Wiggles, on 10/10/2007, -11/+1ahhh there could be a point hes making here. if he's white...he might be talking about the KKK. If black, then its probably about the gang crimes, If Japanese, then its Pearl harbor.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I didn't do it. Keep me out of this!
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You're not getting it. He's generalizing individuals that don't deserve to be generalized into those sick atrocities.
I didn't support or commit any war crimes, don't include me in that.
- Prefection, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12"Keep it in perspective"? OK. I can do that. This is me keeping it in perspective....
One thousand men committed the brutal premeditated murder of a young woman, while local officials assisted.
That seems about fair, and it is definitely in perspective. What is your perspective? - TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Keep perspective? ***** YOU!!!
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5You are a ***** idiot. You need some perspective other than the view from your colon. You hate American no matter what happens.
- hmunkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Um, we don't stone Kurdish girls. Sorry mate.
The USA hasn't killed innocents intentionally and in this "war on terror" only about 20000 people have died as a direct result of an American attack. Not millions.- FunkyLlama, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2The USA had killed innocents intentionally. And what do you mean 'only 20,000'?
- MrKobie, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1I think you'll find that figure is closer to 600,000 - that's the number of civilians who've died violent deaths in Iraq since the start of the invasion. So many civilians die there that the US doesn't have time to investigate them - so soldiers can (and do) kill whoever they want without fear of prosecution. All in the name of Democracy.
- thewatchman, on 10/10/2007, -8/+35ok, I'll bite--- what have "we" done?
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -88/+11Man I'm glad to be a Jew.
- gcnaddict, on 10/10/2007, -11/+39I'm glad I have the option to digg you down for being an ass.
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -8/+18and I'm glad I have free speech :) and you certainly have the right to digg me down
- shinkiwink, on 10/10/2007, -17/+4And that's exactly what we did! Dumb Ass
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -8/+18and I'm glad I have free speech :) and you certainly have the right to digg me down
- superal1394, on 10/10/2007, -9/+40Because the Jews are totally neutral in the world and fanatic free...
Anyone up for a safe, family trip to the Holy land?
anyone?- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -9/+9I've been, it's safe.
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3Well good for you! You deserve a prize!
- stealthcow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Israel is increadibly safe despite what you hear/read. I went there last year for a wedding and went to Jerusalem, the Dead Sea and Tel Aviv - a beautiful country and I would recommend going there to anyone
- scroobyrooberoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Oh, so when I go to Israel and start telling them about how I think that the way they are so bloodthirsty for 20 Palestinians for every Jew who gets killed or I tape them shooting unarmed Palestinians some piece of ***** israeli soldier isn't going to shoot me. Well that's just what they do to journalists all the time. Care to explain that? Or did God tell you that isn't necessary?
- superal1394, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Its safe... if you're a Jew. I don't happen to be a Jew.
- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -9/+9I've been, it's safe.
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -27/+2anti semetic a bit huh?
Israel is alot safer than most of the U.S actually- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -16/+2Note** alot of people say there Only anti Zionist yet always start the sentences with the *Jews*
- jitterbits, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23Not wanting to holiday in Israel does not make you an anti-semite. Nor does disagreeing with her policies.
You cheapen the word when you use it so casually.
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -16/+2Note** alot of people say there Only anti Zionist yet always start the sentences with the *Jews*
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5You should know better than to say you're Jewish on Digg. Now a part of the community will probably go hunt down all your post and digg you down.
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -10/+3so true. and so sad
- swoopdog, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4I don't want to digg you up for saying your jewish because you acted neutral to whats going on. But since I understand that Judaism doesn't always mean Zionist I will digg you up, its sad that so many people blaim problems on the Jewish people. I think Jews are rad myself. (go ahead and digg me down you anti semmits!)
See me I am an Atheist we ARE neutral THANK GOD!- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5ROFL, you say you are an atheist, but then talk about god.
/I should mention this is a joke
- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5ROFL, you say you are an atheist, but then talk about god.
- Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Why? Because the Jews invented stoning as a punishment?
- gcnaddict, on 10/10/2007, -11/+39I'm glad I have the option to digg you down for being an ass.
- SuperGreen420, on 10/10/2007, -43/+150Why? Because she was in love? Because of God? This is not because of love, this is not because of God. This is because they are men with no futures. Men who are desperate but know they are destined to be nothing more then a ***** stain in history. She was just about to start her life and they couldn't handle it. Religion could never justify their actions. It is their own doing. This cowardice is present in men, not gods.
After going through that torment, her soul can only be at peace now.- footodors, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18well said
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -10/+13Agreed, they kill because they're poor or what-have-you. But religion gives people more reasons to kill than anything else.
Also, atheists don't stone people to death.- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -15/+10They don't? Are they physically unable? Atheists do all kinds of crazy things... They are just not noted for being an atheist when a crime happens. If you are part of a religion, you are automatically labeled and the religion is to blame. Sad, but true. I didn't see where Jesus Christ told anyone to go kill for their religion. In fact, he commanded exactly the opposite. In the Bible, Jesus said: "He who has no sin, cast the first stone." Everyone stood in their own judgment. The girl was not stoned. So how do you relate this story to Christianity again?
- Ostizzle, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5I dugg you up even though it's chic to hate Christians on Digg.
You concisely stated your point and asked a fair question. - invertedtwisted, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Whilst you're right that Jesus promoted peace, that there Old Testament is quite the opposite.
I dug you because I agree with what you said about Atheists. However, nobody was trying to relate this story to Christianity.
- Ostizzle, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5I dugg you up even though it's chic to hate Christians on Digg.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -15/+10They don't? Are they physically unable? Atheists do all kinds of crazy things... They are just not noted for being an atheist when a crime happens. If you are part of a religion, you are automatically labeled and the religion is to blame. Sad, but true. I didn't see where Jesus Christ told anyone to go kill for their religion. In fact, he commanded exactly the opposite. In the Bible, Jesus said: "He who has no sin, cast the first stone." Everyone stood in their own judgment. The girl was not stoned. So how do you relate this story to Christianity again?
- Xondar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Humanity of all walks of life and all social backgrounds are capable of such horrible, horrible things, whether they are atheist or of any proclaimed religion. Trust me, you atheists aren't all happiness and light. You claim that lack of religion makes you all enlightened and noble, but that's *****, we're all human, we're all capable of extreme acts of evil. From atheists comments on DIGG, it sounds like you'd love to round up all the Christians and kill them all.
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -10/+13Agreed, they kill because they're poor or what-have-you. But religion gives people more reasons to kill than anything else.
- Soniti, on 10/10/2007, -16/+7I don't understand why you're being dugg down- You've made a very good point.
Stop digging this guy down..
~Soniti - Chaoticfist, on 10/10/2007, -15/+5Why are people digging this dude down..........did him up!!!!!!!
- Cwo655321, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1because they can. why the ***** do you care?
- xboxlive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9yup...
Jesus said.. "whoever here without sin, cast a first stone" and no one did.. coz they're all dam sinners..
this is sad... those guys are bastards and needs to be blown by IED's.....- coreman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Uh...they were just a few days ago.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4ahm... I really don't need to explain the irony of your statement do i?
the "stone" can be anything - it's a metaphor... in your case the "stone" is an IED. Are you without sin? - richardhenry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That comment was terrible. You pump out some religious statement, then follow it with "needs to be blown by IED's". So horribly ironic. I'm not religious myself, but since you claim to be---to hell with you.
- charlie55, on 10/10/2007, -9/+8of course their religion justifies their actions. religion justifies whatever it wants to.
"her soul should be a t peace"?
you are a hypocrite, you are the one who believes in souls, takes things on faith. if god told you to stone a girl would you not do it? would you disobey god? and do not say that god would not ask you to do that, because you are not god and do not know what he wants. anyone who is religious is just as bad as anyone else. you should never be listening to god in the first place, never believing in souls or any of that stupid *****. you are part of the problem for accepting things on faith.- lpcustom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7charlie gets dugg down for pointing out the truth. As harsh as it may seem to the religious people of the world, their belief cause most of these type of incidents. You may think we are being mean for saying this but there's too much pure fact that supports this. Religion is a crutch. People use it to support their bigotry and prejudice. Whether you are Jew, Muslim, or Christian, you are still supporting beliefs that foster hatred and conflicts. It's an institution to control others. Face the music. No matter how free you think you are, if you are constrained by religious ideology you are far from free. You are blinded by your own beliefs in fairy tales. Break the chains that limit your own free thinking.
- charlie55, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1exactly. if you have abandoned reason and placed your faith in an invisible magic creature, you are not in a position to call out others who are doing the same. the only difference between you and them is what their boss happens to be telling them to do at the time.
- lpcustom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7charlie gets dugg down for pointing out the truth. As harsh as it may seem to the religious people of the world, their belief cause most of these type of incidents. You may think we are being mean for saying this but there's too much pure fact that supports this. Religion is a crutch. People use it to support their bigotry and prejudice. Whether you are Jew, Muslim, or Christian, you are still supporting beliefs that foster hatred and conflicts. It's an institution to control others. Face the music. No matter how free you think you are, if you are constrained by religious ideology you are far from free. You are blinded by your own beliefs in fairy tales. Break the chains that limit your own free thinking.
- mrwiggles123, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1YA ***** GEORGE BUSH
- toetagger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0More and more Kool Aid stories on Digg...
- RockJohny, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1they were reminded of the hottie who dumped them back in the day and got revenge....sick basturds
- nazsco, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1oh, you have an imaginary friend. How mature you are.
- footodors, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18well said
- skidme, on 10/10/2007, -60/+221This is why I denounce all religions. Throughout history they made people do ***** like this...
- IEatBrains, on 10/10/2007, -43/+68Over-generalization is a dangerous thing -- careful young one..
- perhapsimcrazy, on 10/10/2007, -32/+50Actually, no. He's pretty much bang on
- gmprunner, on 10/10/2007, -24/+15Actually your a moron.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3hah... it's best that noone says anything when people say things like this...
it's a good intelligence indicator...
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3hah... it's best that noone says anything when people say things like this...
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Perhaps your crazy...?
- GasPoweredGnome, on 10/10/2007, -9/+25If it wasn't religion, it would be something else. Whatever differences people can find they will fight over.
- charlie55, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10not true. religion gives them a reason much stronger than others, a reason that is passed down through the generations, a reason that can never be solved because the difference are based on fairy tales.
- Niten, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I'm not sure what your argument is. It was, after all, religious dogma which stipulated that this girl had "sinned", and which specified the punishment. It wasn't just blind hatred, it was blind faith.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -6/+8Dumb ass you really think the real driving force behind these acts is religion? Religion is only the excuse not the cause.
- Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12good people do good things, bad people do bad things but for good people to do bad things, that takes religion.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I'm having trouble grasping the difference between the Excuse/Cause arguement.
You're saying that if they didn't have religion they would still do this?
I was under the impression that the who incident happened because she went away to marry (and convert to) a man of another religion..
What other cause would they have to do this? - Naryuu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1lots of people try to put the blame on religion, ever hear of "the devil made me do it?" its not the religion, its people not taking responsibility for their actions
- gmprunner, on 10/10/2007, -24/+15Actually your a moron.
- wiremonkeymommy, on 10/10/2007, -9/+31You be careful, IEatBrains, anybody with minimum exposure to religious history would know that religions strongly favor the death penalty for transgressions against their respective theological principles, further, against non-believers simply for being of a different faith.
Islam and Christianity are running pretty equal in dealing out the death and misery lately, no wonder they're at war, from a socio-biological perspective, they're simply competing memes.- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3I favor the death penalty and yet I am not religious.
- vj8usa, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2What about Buddhism?
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4At it's core Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a dogmatic religion...
It is just the attempt to document the deeper truth of reality...
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4At it's core Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a dogmatic religion...
- azra3l, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9bhuddism isnt a religeon. its a set of guidelines
- azra3l, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2double-post
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2Ironically this happened due to ignorance, which is now the exact thing you all are promoting here (except IEatBrains)
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Except, you eat brains? You are sick!!!
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2Ironically this happened due to ignorance, which is now the exact thing you all are promoting here (with the exception of IEatBrains)
- perhapsimcrazy, on 10/10/2007, -32/+50Actually, no. He's pretty much bang on
- CRASSPUNXTEXHTV, on 10/10/2007, -22/+26It has nothing to do with religion. If there was no religion people would have found another reason to kill her. It's not religion thats bad it's bad people that are bad.
I'm An atheist ftw.- zweben, on 10/10/2007, -8/+19That's true occasionally. In this case that doesn't make sense.
They killed her because of religion, period. If they weren't religious, why would they care if she married who she did? They would have no reason to care.- Zanwar000, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10they could've found a million reasons: socio-economic class, skin color, ancestry, political views, eye color, hair color - seriously no matter how trivial people will always fight with each other, people shouldn't be advocating the repeal of religion, prejudiced people will then just move on to a different trait, tolerance should be the thing we are fighting for.
- accelleron, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7You know, I was just typing a comment bashing you for indemnifying religion from responsibility for this, but you are right. If not for religion, it's for politics. Or resources. Or skin color. People will find a reason to kill people. And that is quite sad.
- oneblackcitizen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10True. There are many people of the same religion who still fight each other because they are from different tribal groups. Then, there are people who don't want others marrying into a different tribe, or a different race, or a different nationality, etc.
And I think religion is often just an excuse to do what you wanted to do anyway.- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Exactly! Thank you oneblackcitizen.
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2> And I think religion is often just an excuse to do what you wanted to do anyway.
I don't think this can be emphasized enough.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5Atheism is just another religion you knwo that right? You take the non-existance of things outside our reality on faith since prooving the existance or non-existance of such things is impossible. The only rational and honest view sf that of the agnostic when the existance of any gods is questioned. I've seen plenty of atheists how get all unglued when you challenged their views just like any other fanatic. ***** look at how the fanboys in here attack each other.
- Enkou, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Athiesm is not not a faith you moron. Faith is believing in something with no evidence or even evidence to the contrary. Athiesm is saying; there is no evidence that your god exists so why should I believe in him. Agnosticism is realizing that you can't prove the answer to the question either way so each position is equally possible, but not equally probable. And I'm an apathetic agnostic
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Oh yes it is. LOL!!! Unless you can show me how you test for the existance of something which is supposed to be OUTSIDE our physical reality. If you can do that I'd be very interested in your equipment and methods. They would make you a very rich person. If you can't disprove it then any beliefe in the non-existance of such a thing is based on your own faith in it's not being possible.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2If "Agnosticism is realizing that you can't prove the answer to the question either way", then Atheism is realizing that you can prove the answer to the question... That takes quite a bit of faith to make a bold statement like that. Digg me down if you like, but let's be honest people... Atheism is full of blind faith.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Enkou is right, Most (in my opinion) correct atheists don't claim to KNOW god doesn't exist; Even Dawkins won't admit to this. They just aim a little logic and, when applicable, some testing at religion and come to the conclusion that it isn't PROBABLE that the god of the scriptures exists.
I don't personally see much blind faith in the realm of science.. - brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You don't see blind faith in the realm of science? Not if it is TRUE science... Evolution takes blind faith... Besides, if agnostic means they don't know either way, then explain to me how atheism is not the other extreme vs. religion?
Evolution is based on faith. Need some proof? Watch this video (All of it) It provides evidence for evolution's blind faith: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6814048597272982882&q=100+reasons+why+evolution+is+stupid
- Ory303, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Norman has a point, but it really comes down to semantics. I don't know if there is a God, I accept that I don't, but I also accept that it is a possibility. I guess it has to do with whether you actively believe that there isn't a God and make that a part of you, or you simply don't care. I'm of the latter kind, so what does that make me?
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2semantics all right...
"god exists" is just about the most meaningless statement ever devised (which is why it's the source of so much contention)
Both words are extremely nebulous, and "god" "existing" calls something into observation which is apparently supposed to be beyond observation... It's semantic entanglement...
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2semantics all right...
- Enkou, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Athiesm is not not a faith you moron. Faith is believing in something with no evidence or even evidence to the contrary. Athiesm is saying; there is no evidence that your god exists so why should I believe in him. Agnosticism is realizing that you can't prove the answer to the question either way so each position is equally possible, but not equally probable. And I'm an apathetic agnostic
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion. ~ Steven Weinberg
- zweben, on 10/10/2007, -8/+19That's true occasionally. In this case that doesn't make sense.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9People can be evil. Religious or not.
- MrYellow, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
-- Steven Weinberg- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -13/+2Steven Weinberg is a dumb *****. If they were truly good people, they would not do evil. Plain and simple. Religion is no excuse for evil, especially when your own religion is against it.
- StarlessKnight, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You take Good to be the total absence of Evil; therefore it is impossible to be Good as all people are capable of "evil" (lesser or greater). Good and Evil are extreme, polar opposites along the same continuum. No one is able to be either Completely Good or Completely Evil. That does not mean there are no good people in the world; it just means there are no perfectly good people in the world.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Good and evil are human social constructs and as such do not really exist. They are just value/moral judgements. It's pretty simple minded and naive to think "good" people can't do bad things. People will do anything in the name of survival be it their own or that of a loved one.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yea, norman619... I do agree that I would fight for my family even though I am a Christian... It would be hard not to, because I love my family... Hopefully I am never put in the situation where I have to kill anyone to protect my family, but to say it was done in the name of my religion would be incorrect. The killing would be against my religion. That said, it would be hard to resist protecting my family given the situation and I have no doubt that I would. If it made the front page of Digg.com as an act of a Christian because some atheist wanted to try to make Christians look bad again, then so be it, but that would not be the true reason for my violent actions.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2@brokencrystal
Never said anything about religion. I said "good" people can and actually do what people will lable "bad" or "evil" when their own survival or that of a loved one is at stake. What do you do? Do nothing and watch someone you love die in effect be partially to blame for their death or do you act and kill the would-be killer of your loved one? Both situations have you resp for the taking of a life. What makes one good and the other bad? The end result is the same. The taking of a life. You will have to value the life of the would-be killer less than that of your loved one in order to rationalize the taking of his life. This has nothing at all to do with your religion since in these situation your religious beliefs pretty much go out he window and you are acting on instinct. - brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1"This has nothing at all to do with your religion since in these situation your religious beliefs pretty much go out he window and you are acting on instinct."
I agree. My point... (not against what you said) is that you can't blame the religion itself for the corruption and misuse of power or the mistakes of man.
- MrYellow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You are a "dumb *****". Have you actually read the bible or the koran? Many atrocious acts are spelled out as being just and good. Are you trying to say that religion is not to blame even when its religion and religious texts that condone and even promote barbaric behavior as being gods will?
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1Who are you calling a dumb *****? You sound like you are the one who has never read the Bible... I didn't see where Jesus Christ told anyone to go kill for their religion. In fact, he commanded exactly the opposite. In the Bible, Jesus said: "He who has no sin, cast the first stone." Everyone stood in their own judgment. The girl in the Bible was never stoned. So how do you relate this story to Christianity again? How does it feel to have your own foot shoved in your mouth?
- MrYellow, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Actually theres more in the bible than just the story of Jesus. It must be nice to be able to pick and choose what parts to quote and what parts to conveniently forget about. Its funny how Jesus spoke out against the teachings of the old testament, and yet, the bible as a whole is somehow still considered the word of god by many. So really, quit trying to insult me, maybe you need to read it again.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Its called the old testament brokencrystal..
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Weinberg is a Nobel price laureate.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2MrYellow, like many other atheists and people who have no idea about Christianity... Jesus Christ came in the new testament (the new covenant) to save us from the old law. (in the old testament) That is the purpose of His dying for our sins... What Jesus Christ said IS what Christianity is! He came to save us from the messed up things that happened under the old law! You obviously have no idea what it means to be a Christian... Do you think there were Christians before Christ? Good try though.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -13/+2Steven Weinberg is a dumb *****. If they were truly good people, they would not do evil. Plain and simple. Religion is no excuse for evil, especially when your own religion is against it.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1well dogma's the problem really... religion is just stronger dogma than most...
some people dogmatically subscribe to racial superiority or any other absurd inflexible dogma...
Things like buddhism & democracy & science survive because they grow and evolve.
- MrYellow, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
- Khelek, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” - Steven Weinberg
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Steven Weinberg is a dumb *****. If they were truly good people, they would not do evil. Plain and simple. Religion is no excuse for evil, especially when your own religion is against it. If you want to blame something, then blame the love of money, power, and the misuse of politics and power. These evil people just use religion as a cover for why they are really committing these acts.
- Spuy767, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Nice Copy > Paste *****.
- compulsive1, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4You are a dumb *****. Weinberg is right on. Indoctrination by religion is the most evil of all, because it invokes a supreme moral authority to propel you to do something. If someone said, your president wants you to kill this girl, majority of the people would dare to question his moral authority. After all he's just a man like everyone else, and can err. But God? He can't be wrong. That's why Weinberg is right. ***** all religions.
- MrYellow, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4You are a "dumb *****". Have you actually read the bible or the koran? Many atrocious acts are spelled out as being just and good. Are you trying to say that religion is not to blame even when its religion and religious texts that condone and even promote barbaric behavior as being gods will?
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Hey it was repeated twice. One repeat reply for each repeat comment seems fair enough.
Who are you calling a dumb *****? You sound like you are the one who has never read the Bible... I didn't see where Jesus Christ told anyone to go kill for their religion. In fact, he commanded exactly the opposite. In the Bible, Jesus said: "He who has no sin, cast the first stone." Everyone stood in their own judgment. The girl in the Bible was never stoned. So how do you relate this story to Christianity again? How does it feel to have your own foot shoved in your mouth?
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2This is the dumbest quote I've ever seen. No one is inherently good or evil, thats determined from our actions.
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Maybe think a little and understand what he meant?
Indoctrination and brainwashing turns otherwise "normal" people into robots.
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Maybe think a little and understand what he meant?
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Steven Weinberg is a dumb *****. If they were truly good people, they would not do evil. Plain and simple. Religion is no excuse for evil, especially when your own religion is against it. If you want to blame something, then blame the love of money, power, and the misuse of politics and power. These evil people just use religion as a cover for why they are really committing these acts.
- 18000rpm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18"Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." - Blaise Pascal
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Religious convictions do not promote evil. (Not my religion anyway... not sure about the others) Religious convictions make you want to repent for your sin and do what is right. What book are you reading from? Here is a quote from the Bible... Jesus Christ said: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another (John 13:34). But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28). Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse (Romans 12:14). We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it (1 Corinthians 4:12). Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21). According to this, your Blaise Pascal has apparently never read his Bible. Since he didn't do his research, his quote is null and void.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5just skipping past the old testament there arent'cha? :)
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yes, I am skipping past the old testament!!! Thanks for pointing out the obvious. The whole point of being a Christian, (Keyword Christ) referring to Jesus Christ... You (like many other atheists) just don't understand what Christianity is... That is the whole problem. The old testament was the old law. The new testament (or new covenant) is when Jesus Christ (Who Christians Follow) came into the picture. Jesus came to save us from the old law with the new covenant. He came to save us from all the crap that happened in the old testament. That is why we are called CHRISTians. What Jesus Christ said is what/who a Christian is supposed to be. If atheists understood the simple meaning of the word Christian, they would quit trying to throw that old testament stuff in our faces all the time. The old testament is believed to be history by Christians... Yes, but we do not live by the old testament. We were saved from the laws of the old testament by Jesus Christ. Christian is derived from the word Christ. I hope this helps your understanding of what being a Christian is supposed to imply. Thank you for your time.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Religious convictions do not promote evil. (Not my religion anyway... not sure about the others) Religious convictions make you want to repent for your sin and do what is right. What book are you reading from? Here is a quote from the Bible... Jesus Christ said: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another (John 13:34). But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28). Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse (Romans 12:14). We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it (1 Corinthians 4:12). Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21). According to this, your Blaise Pascal has apparently never read his Bible. Since he didn't do his research, his quote is null and void.
- Amoveo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You're actually right. Religion itself has profound social and psychological effects and while I don't think we should force everyone to be atheist we should be careful about what we allow in society. Religion can promote some very negative things. For example Islam perpetuates a patriarchal dominance, sexual repression, and violent outbursts. The religion affects the culture and it has negative results. On the same token we can't just say DOWN WITH RELIGION IT ALL SUCKS, we have to carefully change our society so that when someone says they're going to kill for God the majority of people (even religious ones) stop them.
- addingyears, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3This "ritual" murder has nothing to do with religion. Arabs are bloodthirsty beasts. Religion is their convenient excuse to satisfy their innate bloodlust. If it wasn't Islam, it would something else. Arabs are goat *****, child molesting, armpit stinkin, man raping, grave robbing, lying thieving dogs who have spent eternity fighting self-defeating tribal wars to defend their worthless honor. If Islam is a gruesome, inhumane trainwreck of a religion, it's only due to the animals who adhere to its warped tenets.
- Amoveo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The problem is that the tenets are too restrictive on their lives and they end up turning to these extreme acts. Arabs aren't "innately evil" they, like all other humans, are a result of the environment in which they are raised. The things they do are undeniably despicable, but labeling the entire region as "evil mother *****" doesn't help at all.
- addingyears, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3This "ritual" murder has nothing to do with religion. Arabs are bloodthirsty beasts. Religion is their convenient excuse to satisfy their innate bloodlust. If it wasn't Islam, it would something else. Arabs are goat *****, child molesting, armpit stinkin, man raping, grave robbing, lying thieving dogs who have spent eternity fighting self-defeating tribal wars to defend their worthless honor. If Islam is a gruesome, inhumane trainwreck of a religion, it's only due to the animals who adhere to its warped tenets.
- paradox4190, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2John 8:3-11
- frenchgrits, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2What about all the atrocities committed by atheists, naturalist dictators? (Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Josef Stalin, Kim Jong Ill)
Religion is not the fundamental problem. There is something wrong with our human nature itself. Humans have an innate proclivity towards evil or at least selfishness.
The real question is 'can a religion have an answer for it?' I think yes. I've some ideas in particular.- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Communism and Nazism are very similar to organized religions. Those dictators acted in the name of those ideologies, not in the name of lack of belief in supernatural.
...and also there is a lot of evidence that Hitler was actually religious (but again, that's not even the point). - sabach, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Josef Stalin, Kim Jong Ill all killed because they were power-hungry degenerates, not because they were atheists.
- frenchgrits, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0But the point is that far greater atrocities have been done not in the name of religion. Everyone is quick to point a finger at 'religion' when more likely, the culprit is 'Human Nature' itself. We are fundamentally flawed and need a way to fix it.
I am not trying to condemn Atheism with that previous comment. I'm trying to divert attention away from atheism and away from religion to the more fundamental problem - our human nature.
- frenchgrits, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0But the point is that far greater atrocities have been done not in the name of religion. Everyone is quick to point a finger at 'religion' when more likely, the culprit is 'Human Nature' itself. We are fundamentally flawed and need a way to fix it.
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Communism and Nazism are very similar to organized religions. Those dictators acted in the name of those ideologies, not in the name of lack of belief in supernatural.
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This has all to do with stupid religious and cultural beliefs taught to people from their childhood.
You can visit other places on earth where people live in similar conditions and they do not stone others (e.g. Nepal). - allan17, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Not all religions are that bad... I've never heard some religions like Buddhism used to justify insane crimes like this one.
- msipes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4In my opinion Christianity is not flawed. It's the people that practice it that are flawed. They take things out of context and wield it to promote their agenda.
- IEatBrains, on 10/10/2007, -43/+68Over-generalization is a dangerous thing -- careful young one..
- coolbeansdude51, on 10/10/2007, -28/+7Dang ... if that's what they do just to a teenage girl ... imagine what they would do to a rapist.
Sad.- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Are you saying it would be sad to do that to a rapist?
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Hey, what about your pal Jesus you quote all the time? Suddenly forgot all about him when you can show how big a savage you are?
- FunkyLlama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, it would.
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Why is this person dugg down? I don't understand.
/Not sarcasm. - tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3They wouldn't do anything to a rapist. She's lucky if they didn't rape her first. Don't you get it? People in Australia (Muslims) say that the women in bikinis are asking for it.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Are you saying it would be sad to do that to a rapist?
- whiteboy, on 10/10/2007, -19/+199I think all horrible videos should be real player, it prevents me from seeing them even if I accidentally click them.
- crushfan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Sometimes I really wonder if there is a secret agreement or something about putting horrible videos in Real Player format.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1These videos are found all over the place in idfferent formats.
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You know you've spent too much time on the internet when... you relate to crushfan's comment.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1These videos are found all over the place in idfferent formats.
- mdoom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22For as much as everyone hates realplayer...sometimes I question how it still even exists...
- DPyro, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6It works in Quicktime.
I forced myself to watch it. It needs to be seen.- DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Negative, it does not need to be seen by everyone - but the story needs to be told so others can learn. I knew these things happened, but this event with it being taped and all has really solidified it in my mind. Even though I won't watch the video, the thought of it is horrific enough to have the same effect.
- richardhenry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Depends on the person I think. When you look at how influential the media actually is, sometimes video can help set something firmly into someone's mind. Personally? I could only watch half of the first video then I'd had enough.
- Crazymaniacc, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2This is one horrible fact, and all u think about is making a geek comment? That's really selfish.
- nullx42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2stfu, id LOVE to make an insightfully comment if i could see the ***** vid. Im sure as hell not installing any ***** real/ real alternative or any other *****. I
- sm1l3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1VLC played it also
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0It works in Windows Media Player if you install Real Alternative.
- crushfan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Sometimes I really wonder if there is a secret agreement or something about putting horrible videos in Real Player format.
- Derter, on 10/10/2007, -31/+71When I saw RealPlayer in bold in the middle of the page I just close it...
- SomeImagination, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10The clips are 3gp you can play them in VLC
- p0tent1al, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Or you can play them using the Quicktime Player.
- OnoTadaki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5There are free alternatives to Quicktime and RealPlayer readily available that simply load codecs that allow you to watch those videos with your current video player. Google 'RealPlayer Alternative' and 'Quicktime Alternative' for more information.
- bagelpirate, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5I don't know whats worse, Stoning of a teen girl or RealPlayer.
- Eallan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I do.
- Clbck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Real Player?
- mercurysquad, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Are you ***** kidding me? That was not even funny mate, just made you sound like an *****. Internet dickwad theory at its best.
- Eallan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I do.
- andritchie, on 11/04/2007, -73/+105The real tragedy here is that the videos are in real player format.
- wisam, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9In this part of the world, Real media is popular. You can still download Arabic songs in Real Audio. In the old days of dialup, I won't even think of downloading an mp3. It was all those ugly rm files.
- BladeMelbourne, on 10/10/2007, -0/+53GP is the movie format created by some mobile phones - it has nothing to do with Real Audio/Video/Media.
- thesoprano, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Hey, 1997 called - They want their dial-up video format back...
- Stirk, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9The jerk store called, they're running out of you!
Sorry, I had to..- thesoprano, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I deserved that - I lol'ed. :)
- Stirk, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9The jerk store called, they're running out of you!
- maxmiles, on 10/10/2007, -10/+18the real tragedy? Is this your version of humor? That's sick. You're sick. Someone was brutally murdered. do you get that?
- Sinistocrat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Someone is brutally murdered constantly, the only reason this chick isn't a statistic is because someone caught it on tape.
- DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7People are only statistics if you look at it that way - if a report says "this week alone 3 girls were stoned to death for blah" and you took 30 seconds to really think about what that means you'll realize that those numbers wouldn't exist without real people dieing.
It just takes more than skimming a headline or a paragraph to realize that. - tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Does his joke change the fact that she was killed? I feel bad for her, but that was still funny. At least something about this horrific situation put a smile on my face.
- Chaoticfist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8i think it is a tragedy that it is in real player format. It prevents the rest of the world from seeing just how stupid and evil these morons are.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5Is that all you care about? *****.
- shreela, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5So everything would have been peaches and roses if only they had used a different format for a video about more than 1000 men slowly killing a teen-aged girl because she chose to marry someone they didn't like.
Do you -- and the others that dug that comment up -- approve of what they did to that girl? I wish all your mothers and sisters could see your comment, and the same to those that dugg it up. - Bamborzled, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Had andritchie's comment not included "tragedy" you all probably wouldn't have been up in arms about it. He was making a joke, for goodness sake. And no, he wasn't implying that everything would have been peaches and roses if only the cameraman had used a different format; he was just pointing out that a RealPlayer format was used.
And it's 3GP, not RealPlayer. You can play it in QuickTime.- shreela, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I saw a few other comments about the choice of format, but those didn't set people "up in arms". Maybe it's because they didn't use the phrase "The real tragedy". I think it's creepy to joke about tragedy, "for goodness sake".
- Hefelumpman, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2With a comment like that, the real tragedy is that a heartless moron like you didn't get stoned instead.
- RamezaniK, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2You're really an insensetive prick. The real player joke was already made. Get over it.
- ellabee, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0OMG....***** you.
- wisam, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9In this part of the world, Real media is popular. You can still download Arabic songs in Real Audio. In the old days of dialup, I won't even think of downloading an mp3. It was all those ugly rm files.
- drunkentoad, on 10/10/2007, -33/+14Is here a snuff section on digg now that i didnt know about?
I dont think stuff like this should make digg.
Digg me down if you want , but there are certain sites that can please the people who want to see people getting killed, it'd be a shame if Digg considered to be anything like those sites.- eridenhour, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6I thought about not clicking it. But why not ? These are the things that go on in our world. That video hurts to watch, but I -highly- doubt a majority of the diggers are getting any enjoyment out of watching that video. Give me a break.
- BRUUUCE, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3no one here is saying "omgz that's ***** awesome!"
- accelleron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I agree with eriden here. Even i this content isn't the most appropriate/sfw/humane, this video wasn't made by people who murder people for videos that others buy/jerk off to. This is what's happening in our world, and I think the value of the content as a reality check outweighs it's aesthetic distastefulness.
- airiox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You have to know the enemy you are facing. These people did this to this girl merley for personal satisfaction and a thrill. How can you just kill someone like that? This should be shown on network news everwhere. I stoppped watching after the third video because I didnt want to see someone smash her head in with a large rock, what I saw was enough to make my stomach curl...
- whathappened, on 10/10/2007, -41/+22Ok, I'm a muslim, but even i'll admit when i clicked the link i expected it to be muslims doing the stoning. This is just proof that at least some of the misconceptions about islam come from backward culture rather than the religion.
Also, yazeedis are *****.- ChrisAlbon, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2I really have no idea why this comment is getting dugged down.
- Endeavorer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Nice sweeping generalization about a religion there at the end..
- mavisbeacon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2i feel bad for laughing at this
- ShadowMerchant, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I do believe he's right. From what I have heard the Yazidis worship fire and the Devil. They are heirs to the Phoenicians and Amalekites that burned their first-born children alive as sacrifices to Moloch or Baal.
To the extent that Islam is a violent and savage religion, it probably has much to do with persistence of this primitive tribal culture that predated Islam. It's not that long ago that we did the same thing-- look at how black men accused of rape were dealt with in the Deep South within living memory.
I think that as time goes by, sensible and humane Muslims like Mr. 'whathappened' will slowly but surely gain the upper hand over the head choppers. Two hundred years from now Europe will be entirely Islamic, but I doubt it will resemble Saudi Arabia. More like Malaysia I would guess.
- BRUUUCE, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1dugg up
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5I just wanted to note that you cannot blame a religion. You have to blame moronic people. (Since the beginning of time) Most violence is done for money, power, and politics, but is pushed using a religion as a cover. The religion is really not to blame, but the misuse of power should be to blame.
- compulsive1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2"Gott Mit Uns" inscription on German WW2 soldiers' belt buckles. Yes, religion is to blame as it is a vehicle of enabling for sick leaders. Without religion they would have less influence on people's minds.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1"Without religion they would have less influence on people's minds."
No, they would just use something else as an excuse. (Racism)
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1"Without religion they would have less influence on people's minds."
- compulsive1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2"Gott Mit Uns" inscription on German WW2 soldiers' belt buckles. Yes, religion is to blame as it is a vehicle of enabling for sick leaders. Without religion they would have less influence on people's minds.
- Macgyrl64, on 11/04/2007, -27/+129You farging morons, who cares that it's realplayer. The fact remains that a travisty has been made by uneducated men on a defenseless young girl of 17. What could she possibly have done or would do to them? This is what happens when there is a lack of education. Religion may have something to do with only due to many religions in this area have twisted fundamentalists and extremists. However it has nothing to do with the pure fact that police officers were seen in the video, 1000 men are there to stone her like as if it were a show. The fact it was filmed, from many angles (I saw this a couple of months ago at a different view) all for what? to show off how masculine they are? Granted I'm glad we Americans and the rest of the world can now see what animals those men are. And yes I say men. No woman has a right to stand up to the men. The poor mother of that child she couldn't do anything to protect her own child. I weep for the children, I weep for the women, I care not for the men, May God kill them all.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -20/+4Well how is she a runaway if she was stoned in her home town?
- RobotCitizen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11She went outside?
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Those answers and more are available IN THE ARTICLE.
- leejae, on 11/04/2007, -15/+4You are very cool...
- Macgyrl64, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Thank you, though I have no idea why someone buried your comment.
- Mist0r_Wiggles, on 11/04/2007, -9/+4I would not like to be a men in your country... I'll probably get stoned by 1000 women for not taking out the trash.
On the flip side, it probably wont be that horrible of a death, being surrounded by 1000 women.
A man can dream... - coreman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Well, some more "normal" Islamic Shiite/Sunni zealots did just that last week, or don't y'all read the news?
- bagelpirate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1...buffering...
- DubbedOver, on 11/04/2007, -0/+4Macgyrl: Well said, I wish a good comment like yours wasn't replied to so many times with such incessant nonsense. I read the comments on articles like this hoping that there are still people with feelings out there somewhere. The comments about real player and such make me disappointed in the digg community.
- Macgyrl64, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thank you. A little compassion can go a long way.
- zhatka, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Yea, but....it's real player.
- LanEvo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1>>May God kill them all.
Sorry, but stuff like this happening is proof that a caring God doesn't exist. - JiaoYang, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Just get K-Lite Mega Codec Pack.... all your format problems are gone, including real player. Well, except quicktime, but there's quicktime alternative for that.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -20/+4Well how is she a runaway if she was stoned in her home town?
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -12/+32At least they used western technology to record it. Maybe they need to stone themselves.
- Sinistocrat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Honestly, if they were all stoned, this would not have happened.
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Interesting to think that if it wasn't for some guy desperate to send pictures of his newborn baby girl back in 1997, we wouldn't be able to watch these videos today. Philippe Kahn needs more recognition, seriously.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -16/+64All 1000 men were virgins. This is why poligamy is bad and a culture dead set on having all men is rediculous. If men can't have a family, they do stupid things like stone women and blow themselves up(to get virgins in heaven).
- leejae, on 10/10/2007, -9/+6The way you spell ridiculous is ridiculous!
- ChineseRoom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8And it doesnt help that prostitution is illegal and punishable by death (I think.)
- No1nose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think most things are punishable by death over there.
- BladeMelbourne, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Even dying is punishable by death over there.
- No1nose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think most things are punishable by death over there.
- Chipsandsnacks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Further proof that all human motivation can be attributed to trying to get laid
- RuSTeDs, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3Dumbass, the guys who stoned the girl were Yezidis, not Muslims. There are no 72 virgins or polygamy in Yezidi religion. Next time, actually read the article before commenting on it. You and the other 20 clowns who dugg you should be tried in the stupid court.
- dgblackout, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3all religions and all religious beliefs are wrong.
end of story.
- dgblackout, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3all religions and all religious beliefs are wrong.
- JohnnySoftware, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Now, 1001 men will not have wives.
- floatingpoints, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Polygamy is fine.
It's the religion and culture that's bad.
- Proctor, on 10/10/2007, -20/+3No digg for the horribly taken videos.
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Dugg down for being stupid.
- QueEsAmor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You wanted a better angle of the murder, you sick *****?
- JeremyN, on 10/10/2007, -1/+91I watched two of those clips, and I can't watch any of the others. I don't recall ever seeing footage that had such an immediate impact on me emotionally. Those men are absolutely sick and I can't believe this ***** goes on.
- Farik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Don't ever watch the "Unknown Russian Soldier" (URS) video then.
- Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Or Cannibal Holocaust.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5You think that is sick? Google me this... "SREBRENICA" You can youtube it as well... I have friends that fought over there against these sick ass people. Oh, and the people that were over there all know that it was political warfare, but they used religion as a cover. Not true.
- hetzjagd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You just ruined my year..
- lovingkind, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I just signed up on Digg after reading Digg for many months and i did so to say that that is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in my life. I am disturbed to the core of my being. I only watched the first video and I wish I hadn't watched it. I feel as if I am sick now. I'm also sickened by the filth that video taped it and/or those who stood around and watched it happen. Ugly human beings! This video caters to the lowest common denominator in human kind and i will never watch anything else that sounds violent.
- Farik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Don't ever watch the "Unknown Russian Soldier" (URS) video then.
- birdbathman, on 10/10/2007, -26/+2No digg cause it requires Realplayer to view
- iancgi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8so ***** what! its a gross injustice ot a human being who give a ***** about the video codec.
- ladypoetess, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Actually, you can view them with Quicktime.
- JrGhoull, on 10/10/2007, -27/+8who's only crime was running away to marry a Muslim man whom she loved and converting to his religion
are u ***** kidding me?! from our society...yeah, thats nothing, in many if not most societies? thats HUGE and u never ever do that. its one thing to say its wrong to kill the girl...its another thing to argue with the reasoning. every society has its own vaules, many of which could easily been seen as "unusual" in the views of people in other society. i wish that she had not been killed, but at least i have some understanding as to why.- ChineseRoom, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9This is why I hate moral relativists. But yeah I bet you wouldnt be saying that if that was your mother/wife/whatever getting stoned.
- Dark1Knight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Understanding??? WTF???
- yahtzee, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Moral relativism FTW!
Wait, no, you're a ***** idiot. - jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5You are sick and I hope you get hit by a falling skydiver.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Don't you think stoning her is a little extreme?
- gjunkie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I thought about not replying for the possibility of getting dugg down... cause I most likely will.
In response to JrGhoull: I understand what you're saying because yes, all societies are different. And when someone like ChineseRoom says "I bet you wouldn't be saying that if it was your mother/wife".. well, actually, yes, if it was his mom/wife, he would be living in that society, and live by the same values. So he probably WOULD be saying that.
Im not at all saying that this justifies a teenager getting stoned, of course. Sure if your society requires some kind of punishment for what she did, fine... but I would hope it's not stoning to death. What Im saying is, do I think it's cruel? of course. Sick? never seen anything sicker. But THEY don't think so. Just as much as canadian fishermen don't think it's sick to club baby seals in the head and skin them half-alive.
That said, I don't advocate an eye for an eye, but in this case... hell yes.- IamcoolJ, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There is no justification or rationlization for this, it's savage, disgusting and mind boggling! Comparing it to canadian fisherman clubbing baby seals is patently ridiculous. If they carpet bomb that village I'll dance the macarena naked and ***** on the rubble!
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I understand the guy, that's why I can relate to people who tell people like JrGhoull to get the ***** out of our country, no offense, it's just our culture. We don't like ***** who will turn this event into a mandatory 3 unit social science class on culture.
- romanxau, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Just cruel. Simply cruel.
- CarpeFishem, on 10/10/2007, -11/+18Funny how stuff like this doesn't make the front page when people are killed for apostatizing from Islam, which, by the way, happens much more often.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Who cares why? It shouldn't happen!!! These people need to go to prison for life.
- LordByr0n, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10***** Islam
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2LordByr0n, I like your user name. I am being serious! The poet.
- MyNamesTaken, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0your a ***** idiot. why ***** islam? this wasn't crazy muslims doing it this time.
- Thinkbig12, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0How can you say that? Thats ignorance. Would you like it if I say ***** America? Its not because some stupid extremists do it that everyone does it....If I see a stupid american will I say that all americans are stupid? You comment is just stupid. Open your mind, get out a bit.
- drgmdp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2yhazidis are not islamic, you know?
- CarpeFishem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yes, I know, which is why I commented. If the people stoning the girl were Muslim, the story would not have made the front page.
- nullx42, on 10/10/2007, -24/+2buried for Real.
- GasPoweredGnome, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3I love little bitches all making the same comment.
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Buried for being lame.
- nullx42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1heyyyyyy :D
- freebsdmike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+78I dugg this, but I refuse to watch a young girl get killed just because she wanted to marry someone.
- st3vo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+50Disgusting and cruel.
- cbergeron, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3Yeah, what about the war in Iraq? Are we forgetting that 400 people were killed by truck bombs the other day? I'm sure there were young children in that group too.
We need to get the ***** out of there, leave them alone, and let them kill each other if they feel it's necessary. We ***** up by even going INTO Iraq. We're ***** up even more by sticking around. - ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Disgusting and cruel"? Welcome to the real world, the world outside of your [censored] news channels.
- cbergeron, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3Yeah, what about the war in Iraq? Are we forgetting that 400 people were killed by truck bombs the other day? I'm sure there were young children in that group too.
- BushStoleMyBike, on 10/10/2007, -5/+51If I had a rocket launcher I would not hesitate.
- GasPoweredGnome, on 10/10/2007, -7/+3Nuke ftw.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3That makes you better than them... I would like to see them tried and punished too, but not like that.
- RMoore08, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Yea..... Killamanjaro just like that.
No but seriously.... I agree with you. This is disgusting and wrong.... They can all burn in hell....- DarkDx, on 10/10/2007, -8/+4They Will....
(atheists will dugg me down)- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Yea, but I dugg you up.
- DarkDx, on 10/10/2007, -8/+4They Will....
- LordByr0n, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Id cut off all their hands so they may never lift a stone ever again
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That might take a while...
- hiPpymIck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1oops
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Normally I do not condone "eye for an eye" type motivations, but after what I just saw... yeah, I would too.
- thedragon4453, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That was my first reaction. I its difficult for me to decide how I would handle a situation like this if given the chance. On one hand, I think that violence is not an answer to a problem, and using it as such only furthers this type of problem. On the other hand, it sickens me that 1000 men can do something like this. That there is nothing human enough in them to tell them what they are doing is wrong.
Do we attempt to educate these people, show compassion that they have lacked, or cut them out like a cancer?
I think in the end, I would not suggest violence simply because violence begets violence. I hope that these people soon advance into this century, because it would seem that they are about 500 years behind. - maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Dig for a Bruce Cockburn song quote.
- nycmac247, on 10/10/2007, -19/+13Ironic that Islam ended the Middle Ages by bringing back science, huh?
- cbergeron, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Yeah that was great until religious extremists ***** everything up. The same thing could happen with the Christians if we're not careful. They already have Jesus Boot Camps for ***** sake.
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5Yea, because that is what Jesus taught the Christians? /Sarcasm STFU
- postaldave, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2you watch one propaganda film and now you know the fate of the christian church. nice............
- dinostabOMG, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2This story doesn't really have anything to do with Islam...
- drgmdp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2don't digg him down, he's right. those are not muslims, neither christians. yazidis religion is much older.
- CrudeDarkness, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1A woman was killed because she married a Muslim and she converted to Islam.
Quick summary for dummies. - NonLeftistDiggr, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1I can't believe the original comment got dugg down and them some guy saying "the same BS could happen to christianity if were...blah blah blah" gets dugg the ***** up. What the FK is up with the digger user base, if I want to read anything about technology I have to read this anti-christian white american male bull ***** all day long.
- drgmdp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2why are you reading this article if you JUST want to read tech news? http://digg.com/view/technology
- rune420, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I'm no big fan of Islam, but to be fair the people who stoned this girl were not muslim.
- cbergeron, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Yeah that was great until religious extremists ***** everything up. The same thing could happen with the Christians if we're not careful. They already have Jesus Boot Camps for ***** sake.
- AnimZero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31Relax you guys. You can watch the videos with QuickTime. -_-
These videos are disgusting though. This is ridiculous...- RMoore08, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5VLC too.
- illogicz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1MPC FTW
- Quaterni0n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0QuickTime isn't much of an improvement.
- 99ip, on 10/10/2007, -20/+8a country run by Religion. We got close to that here with George Bush and the religious fundamentalists.
- shanevendrell, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5No we aren't. It seems that way because the religious fundamentalists are shouting louder and louder, but it is an act of deperation. It is common knowledge that a great percentage of those that even identify themselves as christian no little about the religion and never actually think bout it, more deist than christian.
Check out the religion section:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States
The percentage of atheist/agnostic/no religion has grown while many categories of christianity have shrunk a tad.
(YEs I know it is wikipedia, but it is well cited from reliable sources so shut it) - swrlyhrly, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Cheney said all those american's dying we're just acts of desperation too. I believe he said "last throes"
Just sayin - NonLeftistDiggr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2when was the last time the American government forced you to pray towards some direction multiple times a day even during work? You are a melodramatic un-grateful free american pussy.
- shanevendrell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1free american pussy? where!?
- shanevendrell, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5No we aren't. It seems that way because the religious fundamentalists are shouting louder and louder, but it is an act of deperation. It is common knowledge that a great percentage of those that even identify themselves as christian no little about the religion and never actually think bout it, more deist than christian.
- tonyhartfield, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16use real alternative retards
- cmgarcia, on 10/10/2007, -4/+39Sometimes you guys sound like a bunch of YouTube commenters fresh out of college.
- PlaidPhantom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11What, you think the two sites actually have different userbases?
- brokencrystal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Sorry, I have to comment. You made me laugh. (Don't worry, I will digg you up)
- nitrousconsumed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That's giving them the benefit of the doubt that they actually went to college.
- shaelen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Out of College? HAHaha. Right.
- PlaidPhantom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11What, you think the two sites actually have different userbases?
- jcs_goog, on 10/10/2007, -12/+22Unbelievable. I can't say this for all Muslims, but these supposed religious people are out of control. It just came out that many women in Iraq are prostituting themselves to get money to feed their families. Thus, I can only assume that in many Muslim villages, men dominate, men kill, rape and torture. They do not do so in the name of religion, but rather in the name of power. These men deserve to die. But in any case, their tactics will backfire. They will not go to heaven and get 70 virgins. Rather, they will be banished forever into a world where they will be stoned every day. They are subhumans. Monkeys are more civilized than these creeps.
- wisam, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26The people who killed that girl are Yazidis. Islam has nothing to do with it except that the girl was reportedly killed for converting to Islam to marry a Muslim boy.
- yobrodude, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Im muslim and im reading all these ***** on the comments that can't distinguish that Yazidis are stoning girl for converting to Islam, what wrong with ppl, cant they read?
- Voxxis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0I was just thinking the same thing
- zhatka, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1"banished forever into a world where they will be stoned every day."
Stoned every day? Doesn't sound all that bad. - floatingpoints, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Haha, nah.
When they die, they just cease to exist. No fany after life or anything like that. - jarjarjanks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They are KURDS, not muslim. not Islamic.
- requiemtower, on 10/10/2007, -6/+60I'm amazed that these barbarians know how to capture video from their cellphone.
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I have no idea why someone dugg this comment down! Are they NOT barbarians?
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1No, they are not. They have their own culture. Ergo, not barbarians.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1It is unwise to confuse evil and stupid.
- thedragon4453, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I would have to assume, that given the fact they don't seem to have advanced beyond the middle ages, that the town wizard told them it was a magical device, and if they cast the right spell, they could catch the last moments of infidels.
- jimmiss, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I have no idea why someone dugg this comment down! Are they NOT barbarians?
- kfckid, on 10/10/2007, -15/+3no bush reference yet..wait oh shi%
- LDinOR, on 10/10/2007, -5/+26I am so sick of people using religion as an excuse for what is really just "traditional oppression" of whoever they want to oppress. What ever their rationale they are really just finding an alibi for violence and murder. Someone said "savages", that is right on. Uncivilized beasts that want blood and know they can get it.
- dougerdo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19Most terrible thing I have seen to date. Thanks for the sleepless night. I'm glad to live in the usa, even though we have our share of unspeakable things.
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Like what?
Why can't people from the USA open their eyes and ears to the rest of the world? Why do they keep closing themselves in this stupid idea that the world is perfect only when they are doing fine? Why is it that you accept whatever is shown on news networks as the right story, the right details of whatever happened? I'm tired of the ***** censorship in the States and how people believe that what they hear is the correct thing!
Welcome to the real world, people!
- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Like what?
- digitalsin, on 10/10/2007, -17/+33Would love to have any one of those ***** in a room all to myself. Takes a real man to throw rocks at a girl.
America's nukes now have a destination.- geekwithsoul, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Yes, and those nukes of course would avoid taking the lives of innocent civilians, including women and children, right? Oh wait, you're an ***** who's no different than the ones throwing rocks. It takes a real country to throw nukes at a country that stones people.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Thank you.
- Osjpr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1"America's nukes now have a destination."
What country would drop nukes on itself??
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm (graqhic) - DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3NO NUKES! What are you people thinking? This mob rule that is created when things like this happen worry me. Something needs to be done, but destroying an entire continent, the land, the innocents, the children, the animals, the bugs cats and dogs is not the answer.
Your solution would kill the good people who get stoned to death and the bad who do the stoning. LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.- thedragon4453, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I agree. Nuclear weapons just make the situation infinitely worse. Not only do you kill the innocents, but I would have to believe that the rest of the world would not stand idly by and allow us to wipe a country off of the map. Or in this case, several countries, as this isn't just limited to one middle easter country, but all of them.
Sure, the phrase "fight fire with fire" seems like a good one, but in reality if you try to fight a fire with another fire, what do you get? More fire. Same applies here, Seems like it would be a good idea to respond to violence with more violence, but it will probably just create more problems than it solves. - thedragon4453, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I agree. Nuclear weapons just make the situation infinitely worse. Not only do you kill the innocents, but I would have to believe that the rest of the world would not stand idly by and allow us to wipe a country off of the map. Or in this case, several countries, as this isn't just limited to one middle easter country, but all of them.
Sure, the phrase "fight fire with fire" seems like a good one, but in reality if you try to fight a fire with another fire, what do you get? More fire. Same applies here, Seems like it would be a good idea to respond to violence with more violence, but it will probably just create more problems than it solves.
- thedragon4453, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I agree. Nuclear weapons just make the situation infinitely worse. Not only do you kill the innocents, but I would have to believe that the rest of the world would not stand idly by and allow us to wipe a country off of the map. Or in this case, several countries, as this isn't just limited to one middle easter country, but all of them.
- indorock, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Typical dumbass comment.
And what if you were in a room with them? If your posting to this site you're like the rest of us, geek. You'll get your ass whupped.
- geekwithsoul, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Yes, and those nukes of course would avoid taking the lives of innocent civilians, including women and children, right? Oh wait, you're an ***** who's no different than the ones throwing rocks. It takes a real country to throw nukes at a country that stones people.
- tonyhartfield, on 10/10/2007, -29/+16YEAH LETS ALL GO BOMB THESE TOWEL HEADS
AMERICA ***** YEAH- ramcosca, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Okay, go back to first grade. Go get yourself a good basic history book.
- xjeffx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Comin through to save the motha ***** day yeah!
- VCAT, on 10/10/2007, -28/+10Barbaric. But atleast they are not invading our country, physically forcing us to live under sharia law, worship islam, all the while murdering thousands, and stealing our natural resources. Because that is exactly what West is doing in their land. So I ask, who is more Barbari