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- rcgolf, on 08/31/2008, -1/+96DONT CARE...............NEED FIOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- BinderGang, on 08/31/2008, -0/+60Surf fast or die trying.
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -1/+36They're really smokin the competition, aren't they? lol
- johndi, on 08/31/2008, -0/+26The fiber itself won't, but if they damage electrical wires in a building during installation that can cause fires or electrocution. There is also the issue of installations that penetrate a wall without a firestop or damaging existing ones. That can cause fires can spread more rapidly throughout a building. There are other ways as well, but suffice it to say we have building codes for a reason. Verizon should be following them.
- Onibus, on 08/31/2008, -1/+25Little did they know...
http://explosm.net/comics/1386/ - Joshper85, on 08/31/2008, -2/+18I hate to say this but could this comcastic propaganda?
- Anpheus, on 08/31/2008, -5/+20FIOS is so fast that the photons heat up the optical fiber, and photons are electromagnetic, so it also builds up an electrical charge. That's why we have building codes that implement a maximum speed of light in optical fibers. It's around three hundred thousand kilometers per second in a vacuum, but lower in optical fibers for safety reasons. Obviously Verizon is cheating the system and making their light go too fast.
Duh, basic physics.
;) - xrmb, on 08/31/2008, -5/+17uhm, isnt FIOS optical? How can a tiny light beam cause fires...?
- Hockey13, on 08/31/2008, -1/+13I see the cable companies are resorting to their traditional tactics. Competition? No problem. Get the government involved.
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -0/+12yeah, im willing to risk it. i miss my fios from philly. there is none down here in NC yet. so fast, so nice, one might even say too hot to hold.
- Hoody28405, on 08/31/2008, -1/+8You know, you could of made that so much funnier if you didn't include that "lol".
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -0/+7when they were installing all the fios up in philly my ex was one of the office people coordinating all the contractors. she said the demand was so high that they would really take anyone, qualifies or not, just to get it done. but that they had ***** go wrong daily.
- wukillabee, on 08/31/2008, -0/+7Fios doesnt have caps :), and if it ver does itll probably be like 20 terabytes
- gab00n, on 08/31/2008, -0/+6I just want my DSL back to normal, my speed has dropped by 1/3 and they haven't done ***** about it.
- wilf_brim, on 08/31/2008, -0/+5I agree with just about everybody. I'll take the speed, risk of fire is worth it, my pr0n torrents will come down lightning fast.
- Super6, on 09/01/2008, -0/+4Crying about fire? What a bunch of pansy-ass bitches. Real men aren't going to let a little fire get between them and the internets.
- binutils, on 08/31/2008, -0/+4I love my FiOS 50/20M
/me *hugs* Verizon - Ajajadude, on 08/31/2008, -0/+4You're missing the biggest part: Comcast and their current PR issue. I know people who know nothing about the differences between cable/ISP companies who wouldn't touch Comcast with a 10 foot pole because they "mess up the internet."
When you have technologically challenged people not wanting your product because the word around the water cooler is your company interferes with customer internet access, you've got some problems.
Out of curiosity, do you know if Verizon has a bandwidth cap currently in place? - LoveWidescreen, on 08/31/2008, -0/+4Verizon's top management have said multiple times that they have no intention to throttle or cap the bandwidth of their users. And I'm pretty sure that there were stories not too long ago about Comcast burning some houses down during installation as well.
Comcast still loses out, as far as I'm concerned. - epj3, on 08/31/2008, -0/+4Not sure why you got dugg down, At first I was like ....., but then I Lol'd.
- badassninja, on 08/31/2008, -1/+4Woah woah woah. Don't ever group Neocons wish something not nearly as bad. Things you can group Neocons with is Hitler, Troops that throw puppies off of cliffs, scientology and other such things from the pit of hell.
You might have some beef with Verizon, but that can't be that bad. - MajorCrazy, on 08/31/2008, -0/+3Verizon does not have any bandwidth cap on their FiOS service.
- mlerner, on 08/31/2008, -0/+3OMGGG FIRE!!!!!!1 please.. I'd kill to have any kind of fiber.
- joshf52, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2I'm needing it too. I'm stuck with Time Warner Cable here in NYC and I'm seeing FIOS commercials everyday, but it's still not available in my area. TWC is complete *****, and I can't wait to ditch them.
- manstein01, on 09/01/2008, -0/+2Have many friends who have had FIOS installed without a hitch. The speed is amazing - hell, it is just nice to have some competition to the cable companies.
- nesagwa, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2When they install fios it isnt like getting cable where you just patch into the local terminal and run a coax somewhere to your house.
They (for some reason, I still dont really understand it) install a power junction box that feeds both power and converts the fiber to a coax in order to plug into the router and a battery back up.
Why you need a battery backup for a router is beyond me. All of their documentation says its essential for the phone service only, but they insist on putting one in anyway.
They also wont fish coax into walls for you which pisses me off. Now I have not only the holes in my wall from a half ass DirecTV installation from the previous owners, I have three more just from the god damned Fios guy with about 20 feet of coax just lying in the dirt under my house.
Like the service, but god damn is their installation a little sloppy. Id have paid them extra to do it right. - colonels1020, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2Or it might cause global warming!!!
- PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+2Yeah, well you're obviously a newbie.
Verizon recently blocked all the alt.* usenet newsgroups.
Too bad you didn't know about usenet before they got rid of them for Verizon users. You could download unlimited amounts of porn of just about every flavor and variety, as well as full albums of mp3s, and movies, and software, etc.
But hey, since all the newbies don't know about the legitimate uses of alt.* newsgroups (like various discussion groups about all sorts of topics, from addiction recovery to scifi fanbases, and all flavor of political, technical and intellectual debate), Verizon could easily drop it without any protest or loss of revenue. - binutils, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2It really is 50/20M.. I max it out at almost 6 Megabytes/sec from GigaNews
- PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1Judging by the condition of your closet (missing a hangar rod) and your already messy wiring scheme, I'm guessing the installer wasn't about to put any more effort into installing the wiring than you already had.
The two guys who installed my FIOS service in 2005 spent half a day, and all they did was tap into the phone lines by using the phone jack right next to the install point, and give me an ethernet jack near the router in almost the same spot. They spent most of the time hiding the wiring behind gutters and downspouts and putting grommets in the hole in the wall and then caulking the hole after feeding the cable through the exterior wall.
They did a much better job than Cox did running coax all over the exterior of my house, along the soffet, through window moulding, down walls, across the entire length of the ceiling in my basement, etc. - PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1Don't know about TV service, but the internet service is perfect. I've never had an outage since I had it installed in 2005. Before that, I had cable modem service since 1999, and had outages weekly, sometimes every other day. Sometimes several times a day.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1Wow. You've really been traumatized by the fact that not many people support your favorite neocon convert.
- Fragalishus, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7222/fiosinstal ...
Just for visual reference on how awful some of their installers are. He also had to put in a new phone jack for the FIOS line. Rather than fish the wires through the walls like a normal person he just stapled it along the wall and stuck a plastic box above the baseboard for the phone jack.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4312/pict2375xh ...
Same with the cat5, just stapled along the baseboard instead of having an actual outlet on the wall. Can't wait to see my what my apartment complex says when I move out. - rearlgrant, on 08/31/2008, -7/+8Remember, the best government is one that lets business regulate itself.
/sarcasm if you're Republican. - flailking, on 08/31/2008, -1/+2i believe that the might be talking about the UPS systems that they install to still provide dialtone when the lights are out. BTW...can't start a fire with normal fiber, worst it can do is damage your eyes...
- lostformat1125, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1I bet you will come quicker
- PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1I went to http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ when I upgraded to the 50/20 service, and I got 53,254 kbps down and 22,308 kbps up. (I used DrTCP to adjust my TCP/IP settings.)
- mikelieman, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1They do filter ports though.
- obliviousfool, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1I assume it has nothing to do with the fiber optic cable, and everything to do with the large universal power supply that comes with every installation.
Mine is a honkin' big box bolted to the rafters in my basement, and it looks like it could possibly be grounded. - LenBaird, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1If you live in an apartment building with apartments above and below, then it is impossible to fish walls. He should of told you this beforehand, and got your consent, and also permission from the building owner to do it in this manner.
The best way to do it in many cases is to place jacks where you can go directly through the wall from a jack in another room, or place them where you can hide the wires the best. But, in many buildings, the best solution is going to have visible wires stapled along the baseboard, or jacks placed where you don't necessarily want them, or a cancelled installation. - beersnob, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1OK, I understand how you can ground coaxial cable for cable connections, and copper twisted pair for DSL installations, but would someone explain how you ground optical fiber cable? I've seen the optical cable used by AT&T for their U-verse fiber connections and there's nothing in it that can conduct. I mean sure, if it took a direct lightning strike, I suppose the current could travel down the skin of the cable, but if you take a strike that close, even a traditionally grounded cable or twisted-pair line will likely pass the current into the house.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1it isn't coax, it is cat 5 ethernet cable, you know, 4 pair twisted copper wire.
This is what they install:
A new junction box outside your home, and then inside your home they install an "ONT" or "Optical Network Terminal" which takes the fiber optic signal and converts it to an electrical data signal. This requires power, just like routers, hubs and switches need power. They install a battery in order to provide telephone (and internet) service for brief power outages, about a half an hour or so.
When I got FIOS in 2005, the guys who installed it were really professional. They zip tied and stapled everything nice and clean, and they mounted the ONT and the battery tightly against the floor in a corner of the room I wanted them to install it in (a third bedroom I use as an office). - akifbayram, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1I believe they install the backup power to keep phone services up during a power outage. Normal phone lines would work during a power outage, all you would need is a home phone with a power source. With FiOS, that is not possible so they substituted it with backup battery.
- akifbayram, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1But their DNS Lookup speed sucks!
http://gomeler.com/2006/08/19/surprising-facts-abo ... - Fragalishus, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1That's the laundry closet. It's not missing a rod because there's no supports on the sides, it's just a standard shelf support that can also be used for normal closets. Be kind of hard to use the washing machine with clothes hanging there.
The outlet adapter was added AFTER my FIOS install, as well. You know, cuz I had to move my phone and answering machine to the other side of the room and all that. - PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1nesagwa, I had to do some googling to find out that they are now using new hardware that does include coax. So my bad.
I guess I'm lucky to have one of the original installs when they first started offering it in 2005, because it is a really clean install. - PhilLesh69, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1ask your friends if they've ever been unable to access the internet after FIOS was installed.
I used to have all kinds of problems with cable modem service, but since 2005, I've never been unable to access the internet. NOT ONE SINGLE OUTAGE. - nesagwa, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1No... it is coax...
It goes from the outside box to coax run under my house into the side of my house into the router and THEN to cat5.
And they did do all of the mounting and stuff, but its still sloppy to leave wires under and holes in my wall. - sx66gns, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1Now that they have immunity (Thanks conservatives) they have nothing to worry about.
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