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- anonymousmedic, on 07/11/2009, -7/+31But I thought Digg wanted me to think Venezuela was a Socialist Paradise that was being unfairly demonized by the evil United States!
- nahsrocketeer75, on 07/10/2009, -3/+26FTA: "The broadcasts, known as 'cadenas,' are part of Venezuelan life under Mr Chavez and can last up to five hours." ... Never mind waterboarding, *this* is torture.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -4/+24Hello Comrades,
My name is Hugo Chavez. I love myself. I am going to spend the next 8 hrs telling you how much I love myself. If you love me too I will send you oil. If you do not love me I will call you slaves of the evil empire and send you NOTHING!! Be sure to tune into my show every week or I might just nationalize your television. Now let us begin... I love my little toe because.... - 3Den, on 07/11/2009, -3/+15The thing is.. when he's on... he's on ALL the channels.
Your only option is to turn off the TV/radio and go do something else.
Just wait.. he'll go after youtube next. He'll get the national ISPs to redirect all youtube IPs to his private media servers. - ChileanGoD, on 07/11/2009, -5/+13This is anti-socialist and my sincere "***** you" to anyone trying to use this as proof to say otherwise. For as much as I want a fair socialist revolution this is not the way. Chavez is going too far and he's a ***** moron.
- Barackalypse, on 07/11/2009, -6/+14Way to diverge from the usual socialist game plan Venezuela, I'm sure nobody will ever figure out what freedoms and controls you're going to go after next as you consolidate power and crush dissent as every socialist state before you has tried.
- rschenkel, on 07/11/2009, -6/+12Where is the UN now? Where is the OAS???? Where is Insulza yelling at Chavez for this? Oh... right, I forgot they are buddies. But when someone is trying to fight Chavez (Honduras), we are immediately condemned. What a joke.
- anonymousmedic, on 07/11/2009, -2/+8No, it's called stifle the voice of any opposition to the Dear Leader. Censorship of dissenting political opinion has no place in modern society.
- cvlad, on 07/11/2009, -2/+6Obviously Chavez is essentially just a dictator. But his policies (certainly his economic policies) ARE socialist. What do you think nationalizing the energy and media industries is? It certainly isn't capitalism. I'm not trolling; this is a serious question, so don't just bury me and call me a retard.
And this is the flaw that all you Digg socialists fail to see: surrendering your basic rights/freedoms to a single governing body inevitably leads to this *****. Someone will ALWAYS come along - before you know it your People's Republic has become another Fascist Dictatorship.
Do you really think that Conservatives/Capitalists don't want to live in a world where everyone has access to health care, an education, and food/water? Of course we do. We have kids, families, and friends that we care about - we're just realists and pragmatists first and ideologues second (at least those of us who aren't religious). The reason Capitalism works as well as it does is that by its very nature it decentralizes the economic power structure FROM collective organizations TO the individual. This isn't to say that Capitalism can't regress into some kind of micro-fascism: there's an optimal balance of free enterprise and public regulation. But being a "free citizen" in society shouldn't depend on your political ideology, skin color, religion, ethnicity, education, or wealth. Rich or poor, at the end of the day a man's labors are his own in Capitalism. Can you say the same about socialism?
I find it disturbing that it's considered acceptable that an individual be less free in Socialism in the name of egalitarianism. As soon as you're willing to compromise the rights of one individual, you've compromised the rights of all individuals. Chavez isn't an example of Socialism per se, but he's a superb example of what it breaks down into (after all, you can't have a vote every time a major decision needs to be made in your government - someone needs to be in charge). - KaiserArny, on 07/11/2009, -2/+6Looks like your brain has been thoroughly washed clean.
- poidh, on 07/11/2009, -5/+9What's funny is that there are so few comments for this article, whilst others have plenty.
I wonder if it is because of previous Digg support for Chavez. - inactive, on 07/11/2009, -0/+4Sorry Chavez you'll never shut down Digg!!!
- wolfing, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3I wonder how he'll force people watching DVDs to see his speeches.
- nd4spdviper, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3but he might prevent us (venezuelans) from accesing it since the government owns the most powerful telco in the country.
- jahayiti, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3Democracy in the Americas : Destabilzation
- anonymousmedic, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3First Iran, and Now China....
The next nation with riots will be Venezuela, wait and see. - peacelove420, on 07/12/2009, -0/+2Poor Venezuelans are screwed.
I'd get out of there as soon as possible. - jackparadise, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3... and you win stupidest person on the Internet today. Good job!
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2I feel ya brother.
Take this 10 links and call me in the morning:
http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/03/14/10-free-tools ...
Your friend:
Bonlebon - gijoe86, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2You just summed up the Road to Serfdom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Serfdom
It's a must read for everyone, because it logically concludes socialism can only be implemented when enforced by totalitarianism, which is directly in line with what Venezuela is doing. - mc88, on 07/12/2009, -0/+2But Sean Penn tells me it's a wonderful place and Chavez is an incredibly benevolent leader.
- ChileanGoD, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2"To suggest he's going too far implies there are some things he's doing right in the pursuit of a socialist nation?? That's an honest question, not a facetious one. :)"
Nationalization of natural resources for their own benefit is one good step. Completely taking out religious and economist interests from government is another.
"it should first be pointed out that governments of all stripes corrupt good intentions"
The right people are not chosen and there is no protocol to filter them out. Governments aren't like a monarchy, aren't some alien that came from another planet. We choose them, the government is the living reflection of our collective self.
"accountability mated proportionally with power, and fending off corporatism or outright thuggery by any individual who hides behind a veil of authority."
...well said man. - cvlad, on 07/12/2009, -0/+2Thanks, I'll check it out.
- PeppermintPig, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3To suggest he's going too far implies there are some things he's doing right in the pursuit of a socialist nation?? That's an honest question, not a facetious one. :)
I believe there is in fact much more to this situation than a simple-faced accusation that Venezuela is socialist. People who say that without qualifying how and why are not helping further the dialog: It begs a more objective comparison.
There is often an unresolved silence concerning the enforcement of fairness in socialized governing structures, despite the arguments by its advocates of best intentions. To this, it should first be pointed out that governments of all stripes corrupt good intentions, and take advantage of people who hold out hope and lead them on with campaign promises or outright propaganda to mislead the people. Further it can be said that any ideology that does not address the ease with which such abuses can happen and individual liberties are lost, is an ideology in need of serious scrutiny.
Therefore perhaps we can look to the common abuses of politicians and bureaucrats and discover how to establish consistent paths towards the respect of individuals, accountability mated proportionally with power, and fending off corporatism or outright thuggery by any individual who hides behind a veil of authority. - inactive, on 07/11/2009, -5/+6Dont worry AK those nasty old socialist demo's are not gonna take away rushmo's limp slimy ***** for you to nurse on every afternoon...
- anonymousmedic, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2That opinion is doubleplusbad.
- aoctavio, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster for Internet and torrents!
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1This is a brilliant move. As you said he's all that will be on. I can think of no better motivator to get children to read.
- SadMartigan, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1And now he puts the shackles on the cadenas.
- anonymousmedic, on 07/11/2009, -2/+3That's the thing here. We have to let this play out. Chavez demonifies the OAS, the United States, and to some extent, Canada. By stepping in and intervening in Venezeula, the US will give his dellusions to the public credible ground to say "See, I told you so. they are trying to subjugate us!". Until the populace at large asks the United States or the UN for assistance, we cannot do anything without making things worse.
Iraq should have taught us that lesson. The only thing we can do is to make sure the information continues to flow, in and out. - gijoe86, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1"If you own a powerful TV network, you would obviously try to broadcast information that confirms your own opinion"
If no one liked your opinion, no one would watch your network, and if no one watched your network, you would not make money, if you would not make money, you would be a failed corporate media owner. - KaiserArny, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Have you watched American TV? Fox bashes Obama all the time. Have you watch Canadian TV? The bash Harper all the time. This is what democracy and free speech is all about. Once you start to legislate what is being said about you in media, you're on a direct path to dictatorship.
I will admit that Americans did not treat Venezuela well before Chavez. Although I'm not a socialist at all, I had high hopes for Chavez to reverse the inequalities in Venezuela. But He's doing all wrong. He's doing exactly what he accuses the Americans of doing: meddling in other countries businesses. - gijoe86, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Read the Road to Serfdom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Serfdom
Socialism only works with Totalitarianistic enforcement. - Barackalypse, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2What part of the crushing free speech in the form of revoking over 200 radio station licenses did you miss from the article summary? Here it is in more detail:
"Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez praised on Friday his government decision to remove the broadcast concession from 240 radio stations, or 40 percent of the radio stations nationwide, and some other decisions which have an impact on the telecommunications sector."
http://english.eluniversal.com/2009/07/10/en_pol_e ... - Risingashes, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2Are you serious?
Having the option to make the leader's addresses mandatory seems like a perfectly reasonable imposition.
There are many perfectly relevant issues with Venezuela. False outrage does nothing but discredits such an outcry when something important actually occurs. - ffffuuu, on 07/11/2009, -2/+3"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"... any Venezuelan with higher education than preschool knows what I mean...
people from abroad need to stop sucking up to a dictator and come live a couple of months in this country.
and Venezuelan TV constantly bashes Chavez because he constantly ***** up, and breaks the basic laws of our constitution... if Obama did what Chavez does here on regular basis (shutting down networks he considers inappropriate or attacking people with different political beliefs) he would'nt last 24 hours as a president - pathouston22, on 07/11/2009, -3/+3http://americanelephant.files.wordpress.com/2009/0 ...
- SuperKing84, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1have you watched Venezuelan tv. all they do is bash Chavez and threaten to kill him. but keep on calling people brain washed that helps your argument tons.
- annenk38, on 07/11/2009, -2/+2To get a perspective on just how bad a dictator Hugo Chavez really is, watch "The Revolution Will Not Be Televized":
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545 ... - lonza64, on 07/11/2009, -0/+0for those of you intrested in this story i have another for you that i think you will find intriging the title is North korea: The war game
- Swivelstick, on 07/11/2009, -2/+2So basically nothing has changed in Venezuela before it was the extreme right now the extreme left..
- SuperKing84, on 07/11/2009, -2/+2ok so is there a link to the actual regulations? this article is poorly sourced and as usual the "discussion" turns into CHAVEZ ARE DICTATOR or SOCIALISM BAD CAPITALISM GOOD. Then there is the grand standing about the individual rights over the collective. How corporations are considered individuals is beyond me.
- akchrs, on 07/11/2009, -10/+10Sounds like they have their own version of the Fairness Doctrine. I wonder how long before the liberals, with a majority in congress, try and impose one here.
- SuperKing84, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0Have you even read the regulations yet? or are you just gonna repeat what you hear until it becomes true?
- monvalley, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0Hugo and B.O. play from the same book. In case you haven't noticed, all you see on network and cable news is B. O. propoganda, coming from his own mouth and the newscasters slobbering I hope America wakes up before it is too late for America
- meitoufu, on 07/11/2009, -2/+1Media is not opinion. Media is institution that tries to generate a certain opinion in the populace.
- meitoufu, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0If you own a powerful TV network, you would obviously try to broadcast information that confirms your own opinion, and if people watch your TV network all the time, then your opinion would be synchronized with that of the media owner. don't think this is always good even if the media is attacking the government.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -2/+0And jack your the smartest person on digg and the internet forever and don't let anyone tell you any differnt.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -3/+1WOW !!!!!! sounds as about exciting as fox news....
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