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- Lomstradamus, on 10/11/2007, -13/+261The next Michael Moore movie should be about how the mainstream media cow-towed the Bush administrations lies to get us into Iraq.
The media is as much to blame for our soldiers deaths as Bush is. - TritonX, on 10/11/2007, -6/+184Lou Dobbs comparing Moore to Chavez at the end, it's priceless, validating moore's argument.
- nfulton, on 10/11/2007, -9/+118Thank God for Michael Moore . . . I've wanted to beat the crap out of Blitzer for four years. He NEVER asks the hard questions. He has NEVER held the politicos he interviewed to account for the decisions they've made the lies theyve told, never took his "experts" to task for their greivous errors. So many have died. So much has been wasted.
Thank you Michael Moore for doing what so many of us have wanted to do for so long. - phantoms5000, on 10/11/2007, -6/+85Lets see how many times this can get on the front page today
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+70Moore sure did own them. Upon further investigation from Moore's team they reveal that the CNN report was 90% misleading or down right lies.
Read the rebuttal here:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/news/article.php?id=10017 - Glofern, on 10/11/2007, -6/+74I watched the Michael Moore and Wolf Blitzer from the internet and was wowwwwwwwwwwwwwed. It is rare that any of these guys on TV allow this to happen live and for that I too thank Wolf Blitzer but it would have been nice for him to say that he was wrong and that Michael's movies were correct. It was hard knowing for so many years that what was in Farenheit 911 was real and these guys refused to tell the truth.
- peaceordeath, on 10/11/2007, -13/+60BIG NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- oo7akbnd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+47Watch "Buying the War" by Bill Moyers. It is EXACTLY about the media's 'buying the war,' and it is really well made.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html - BuckQJohnson, on 10/11/2007, -5/+50I bet his next movie will be about the media, he usually does alot of research for his films. And Moore had a point, CNN and other outlets are acting like the Ministry of Propaganda in regard to coporate and govt. dealings. The 45 million people without insurance is about 15% of the American population of 300 million. When the Axe finally comes down on this nation, it will not be a military that does it. It will be our insolvency and bankruptcy of the Federal and State governments.
As an example just follow the News in Indianapolis, IN. People (middle class people) are out in the streets in front of the Governors mansion demanding he repeals the increase in property tax, that has went up for alot of people 200 to 300 percent. This is just for property tax, imagine what will happen when your fiat money doesn't buy what it should and your government (Katrina) doesn't know how to fix the american economy. - ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -1/+46This is a very simple issue.
Now: We pay for our own healthcare AND for the record profits those corporations are seeing
Universal Healthcare: We ONLY pay for our own healthcare via taxes. Period! - factorof2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+46Michael Moore > CNN, Wolf Blitzer and the entirety of the US mainstream media
Dugg for Michael Moore being a badass. - bblades, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37The media tries to pacify conservatives who live in a dream world. You know the people who think Iraq is going just fine, and the gobs of CO2 we pump into the air does absolutely nothing in effecting global temperature. You know the type that make everything us versus them, black and white, without nuance. These are the people that think immigrants, terrorists, Iraqi's, all essentially mean the same, and they are BAD and we are good... even when kill thousands of civilians and torture those who weren't killed in the mass bombing to begin with. If you don't like it, then you are for THEM, the BAD guys. The voice of dissent must be silenced in an effort to preserve your freedoms... wait isn't that a paradox? They use words like commie and now liberal to put down that other guy in the room who says something clever about how misguided they are and how they should come out from under the rock they reside in. CNN and other news outlets try to "balance" their news. Since conservatives hate anything that isn't spoon fed to them like Fox news or talk radio, CNN still tries to pacify them like little children and hence throw them a bone. This is all in the name of business, because someone in advertising sees that Fox News is the most watched news channel. Why would anybody keep Bob Novak on the air as long as they did, considering how much of a fool he is? Lou Dobbs cracking a joke about Hugo Chavez is just an example of writing off Moore as a liberal, like it is a 4 letter word. I wouldn't consider it a 4 letter word, realizing that the alternative supports a blunder of a war, a cover up of a criminal executive branch, a mass privitization of social programs, an environmental policy written by Haliburton, and a science policy written by evangelicals.
Moore wasn't a wuss about the injustice that he has seen in the past few years. Conservative talk radio has made its bones on fat bastards who hide behind a microphone and slander anybody who is not them. The world needs a few more Michael Moore's who aren't going to apologize for being progressive, and for calling out these so called authorities on their "fact checking" - Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+30Perhaps if you studied a bit more social theory and/or civic planning, you would get some fresh perspective.
The reality is that if you want something to be available to everyone, not just most, but everyone, the only way is with public ownership. Certain aspects of society fall under this umbrella because providing them to everyone drastically improves the overall quality of life. We can debate all night about which items should be on that list, but unless you are a complete moron, I think we can safely agree that video games don't qualify. Comparing something as trivial as video games to health care, where people live and die, is about as inane as you can get.
Here's a shocker for you ... your military is publicly owned. Funded by all those enormously inefficient tax dollars. Heck, the military is probably the single best example of government graft one can find, but that doesn't stop the Republicans from worshipping at the altar of militarism. Spend more on the military than the next 50 countries combined? Nah, it's not wasteful government spending ... it's a necessary expense in an increasingly dangerous world. Whatever justification they want to come up with, it all boils down to the fact that just like the military is best left as a publicly owned resource, other industries should be, too.
That you reject that notion wholesale out of an adolescent fear of "Communism" shows how simpllistic your worldview must be. Sleep tight ... don't let the redbugs bite. - fatlip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27once you get out of 9th grade, you might understand the interview. i'm in no way a michael moore supporter, but when he's right, he's right. topic jumping? he clearly stated he hadnt been on in 3 years at which point cnn slammed him just like they did with their little 'fact check' before this one. "if you can't afford health insurance then tough luck" ??? are you serious? i dont think its so much that health insurance exists, as much as the prices are astronomical. but hey, if you're happy throwing part of your paycheck into medicare like the way it is now, then by all means, go right ahead. if the healthcare was subsidized in the first place, you'd have less of a chunk taken out of your paycheck and it'd be distributed much more evenly. oh wait, are you saying to get rid of all the care provided by government aid altogether? yeah i guess that makes sense. especially for people who worked their entire lives and got ***** for some reason or another, nah they dont deserve health care. nor do the people that were born into poverty. hell, just because your parents can claim you on their taxes, why not just go ahead and slam the people who arent as privledged as you?
p.s. name-calling "micheal" moore? grow up already. - zardoz73, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27Just as he said, here is Moore's rebuttal from his website:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/news/article.php?id=10017 - Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Wake up. It's called propaganda and it works. It worked for the Soviets. It is working for the Chinese and it is working for the US. The US is doing it differently, with a small handful of right-wing media owners doing it instead of the government, but the principle is the same even if the delivery is different. When 90% of talk radio is dominated by right-wing stations, getting alternate information gets pretty hard.
Do you understand why "Communism" and "Socialism" are still epithets in the US, while Europe has quietly moved to being almost exclusively Socialist? No one is scared of Socialism there because Socialism is reality - some things work best being publicly owned, some work best being privately owned. Having either 100% or 0% private ownership are the truly radical stances. Communists are nuts because they want 0% private ownership. Are free-market Capitalists any less nuts because they want 100%? Hardly. The media does it's job, though, and the American public continues to generate a new batch of commie haters with every generation. - TheN0ble, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Finally, someone with balls to speak the truth!
- smackywentz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Further validation...
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php - ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22For the things necessary for something like an unnecessary war to occur are so vast and tedious, that it had to be a concerted effort by very powerful men. It REALLY helps if only a few people control the vast majority of media.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+18If the NeoCons want to cut-off SS & Medicare in the future, then they better plan to send me a refund check for all of the money they've forced me to pay into the programs for decades. A better solution is for some sort of regulating of the costs of medical treatments which are obviously out of control & out of almost everyone's range of affordability. There is no good reason why it is so outrageously expensive.
The system is due for an overhaul:
-College tuitions are out of control
-Health care costs are out of control
Fix these two problems, which are more complicated than I'm getting into, & the future debt problems will be solved. Big corporations that love ripping people off won't be happy, but who cares? HMOs, Insurance companies, Student loan organizations (aka banks), Pharmaceutical manufacturers, Law firms, etc will be outraged, but if we get rid of lobbyists it could work. The health care system is due for an overhaul from stem to stern, from top to bottom or we & future Americans are screwed. What choice do we have? -The government taking our money that we've paid & basically stealing it? -Having a health care system that the vast majority can never afford? -Letting the vast majority live in suffering & needlessly die while the rich live comfortable long lives? We need to start from scratch, make a health care system that works for everyone, regulate, & have oversight. We certainly know where the Republicans stand, its with the wealthy & the corporations. - fatlip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18unlike CNN, moore actually quotes his sources -- which is comforting.......... or discomforting, depending on how you look at it
- Aquashark, on 10/11/2007, -5/+22go back to bed America, your government is in control again..
- Abomonog, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19And most of what is said about Chavez on the news is a lie too. And all because Chavez exposed the real costs of gas refining to the world.
FWI: it costs the oil companies just 16 cents a gallon to refine gas. And it is not even the primary product of the refining process. It's the waste. - TritonX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16And why shouldn't he profits from his work?
- GorfTron, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16I saw this and liked it. And Wolf did let Moore speak his peace(unlike Fixed News' Bill O would).
- rolf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14I always though CNN was relatively fair until I watched the mockery of a poltical debates last month where the "2nd" tier candidates were almost pushed off the stage and the "top" tier ones could talk as long as they wanted on their inane subjects while the others were interrupted by Blitzer after 10 seconds.
***** CNN. - Drexus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Don't you love CNN's bias when it's so blatant? As soon as Wolf talks to his buddy, the first thing out of his mouth was "What a left wing..." Such crap. Just unbelievable that network has a viewership... actually I can believe it, it's just the same as a car wreck - you can't look away.
- AK10, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Two question marks make your points twice as valid!
The free press is supposed to serve as an independent kind of "4th branch", keeping the others in check by informing to the people what the others are up to. When they fail to do their jobs they fail us all as an institution of democracy. - akyra, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16Scroll down for the Video!
- last4internet, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14Those last second leftist comments on the video were just disgusting FUD! Who let's these people stay on air?
- darienphoenix, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16You obviously wouldn't blame a cat owner if he put a kitten in a tiger enclosure. It was the tiger's fault.
- peabody624, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13ahahahahah that was fantastic
- atheinostic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12This clip has cnn's bit before the rant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpKoN40K7mA - byronm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Hard to do all of that and stay calm when your passionate about something. Perhaps other "leaders" should step up and fight like more but remain more stern/vigilent on it and be less emotional. Moore does the documentaries becaue he's passionate about it so its gonna flow :)
- Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11You have no idea how to argue, do you? Even before Iraq, the US spent more on their military than the rest of the world combined. IN PEACETIME, they spent that much. Now they are just spending even more. The US could cut their military budget nearly by a factor of ten and still spend more than anyone else in the world. Yeah, that means cutting the budget by 90% and they would still be spending more than China, who is a distant number two on the list. US military spending was ludicrous before the war and is absolutely insane since the war started.
- handshakedrugs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Okay, you're comparing the biggest economy in the world (U.S.) to Poland? Also, a brain drain? Where are they going to go - most other industrialized nations have government provided health care. You're argument is lacking facts and plain common sense.
- BigAmish, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Ya know, I don't remember too many people complaining when the AACS Key was duped into infinity. And to me this stuff is much more important.
- gincarnated, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10That was ***** brilliant! Someone please post the vid of CNN apologizing if they ever do.
- whiterussian, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Quick, call Michael Moore! Screw health care and exposing the lies of the government and media, we need to blow the lid off this video game *****. I can see it now, Moore showing up at the MS offices, demanding to speak to Bill Gates to ask him why Conker: Live and Reloaded wasn't as good as the original N64 version.
- Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11He didn't say anything about Canada's wait times in the movie, only about the cost and quality of the care. Seeing as their per capita cost is less than 1/2 of the US per capita cost and they offer equivalent care, slamming either Moore or Canada is less than productive. As "bad" as they are, they get a better bang for their buck than the US does.
- yankpats, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Lou Dobbs is so senile its almost cute. I was actually more shocked to see him alive, i thought he was dead.
- allywilson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Michael Moore - the questions finally asked. Am away to find out if SiCKO is out in the UK yet.
- sentury111, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Follow the link and watch the video embedded at the bottom of the article. No need to go to you tube to see.
- toxicvarn90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Damn, you beat me to it.
on a side note:
I really think moyers deserves more recognition here on digg. - graycat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10It's just you. They do it all the time. Maybe you're just noticing it for the first time too. You know - like in They Live when Rowdy Roy Piper finally puts on the sunglasses?
- Acewrap, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Yeah. The group of people that think.
- Yazilliclick, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8So what you're saying is you honestly have no clue what 'per capita' means or any concept at all on how population affects raising money and spending it on programs?
Sure the US has a larger population. Doesn't matter. They still spend more per person (per capita) on health care, have lower quality of healthcare even though more is being spent, and end up with average lower life spans and infant mortality. The only possibly valid argument would be that the US is a larger landmass thus resulting in the need to have more medical facilities to cover all areas unlike the UK which has a much more dense population and thus does not have to deal with spreading out medical facilities. However that's a very small issue that would not result in the differences between the two. - bwrecks, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12Micheal moore is GREAT!!! yeeeaaaahhhh!
- colberrep, on 10/11/2007, -16/+23Lou Dobbs, what a quack. By the way, it looks like he aged about 20 years since last year.
- vinividivici, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7record waste < record profits (and when you say it is record waste, what is the waste and what record did it break?)
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