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United States Now Arrests Photographers Without Charge!

news.yahoo.com — NEW YORK - The U.S. military plans to seek a criminal case in an Iraqi court against an award-winning Associated Press photographer but is refusing to disclose what evidence or accusations would be presented.

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  • duggtodeath, on 11/20/2007, -26/+323***** this! The US can now arrest journalists without charge OR evidence. This is what a police state looks like. If this can be done overseas, they will use the War on Terror to do the same homeside.
    • BeefBaron, on 11/20/2007, -20/+72Probably because he was taking lovely pictures of US forces killing innocent civilians nonstop.
      • nospinhere, on 11/20/2007, -42/+21Yeah, big evil U.S. Government going after this poor guy who facilitated attacks by knowing the time and locations they were going to happen so he could get "award-winning" pictures. ohh, and finding bomb making parts and insurgent propaganda in his house too didn't help. How dare the U.S. holds this guy!! The out rage of it all.
        • osbjmg, on 11/20/2007, -8/+45Good point, so if you have evidence he's building a bomb - charge him as such. Are you cool with no-charge arrests? I mean, seriously and absolutely? This should never happen, it defies logic.
          • nospinhere, on 11/20/2007, -38/+11In the middle of a conflict, absolutely.
          • Tippis, on 11/20/2007, -4/+13@oMEo
            This has nothing to do with Miranda rights. This has to do with the right to fair and regular trial -- a right war criminals *most certainly* have.
        • JonParker, on 11/20/2007, -3/+43It is an outrage. I'm not saying that he's not guilty, nor is the AP. He may be guilty as hell. But the US military is 1. refusing to say what the specific accusations are and 2. refusing to say what evidence there is for his guilt. That makes preparing a defense impossible. If he is guilty, then reveal the charges, disclose the evidence, and hold a trial. Anything else is a ridiculous sham, There's something very, very wrong with you people who think that the accusation of terrorism is enough to do whatever we want to someone.
        • dildoolielly, on 11/20/2007, -7/+29THREE (3) TYPES OF CONS LEFT ON THIS BOARD
          1) The PAID ones.
          2) The SHEEP.
          3) The IDIOT.

          Which type are you?
          • nospinhere, on 11/20/2007, -35/+7Sounds like somebody doesn't like hearing the truth.
          • moin1097, on 11/20/2007, -22/+5Truth is like acid in the ears of liberals.
        • sparsely, on 11/20/2007, -2/+4Where did the article mention anything about bomb parts OR insurgent propaganda?
          Lies!
      • datastorageguy, on 11/20/2007, -21/+16Any proof of American soldiers killing civilians non stop? Moron...
        • cloudyprison, on 11/20/2007, -20/+7Well not anymore! They arrested him! But we know the pictures are there, when we think about it our tinfoil hats tickle our brains.
        • mightydavefish, on 11/20/2007, -6/+7The only exaggeration is "nonstop".
          If you want proof of US soldiers killing civilians, stop watching Fox and get your news ANYWHERE else.
          Did you really not have a clue, or are you just being a dick?
        • sparsely, on 11/20/2007, -3/+6Okay, fine. They're Private Contractors.
          better now?
        • Lionhart, on 11/20/2007, -2/+4Didn't you RTFA? It's hard to find proof because photographers that get proof get arrested!
      • Lane5slacker, on 11/20/2007, -2/+8Yeah, because every American soldier is a baby-killing sociopath...
    • tmessing, on 11/20/2007, -38/+10They can do what they want, it's a war zone for ***** sake
      • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -5/+18They can arrest their own people -- people whose "freedoms" they are fighting to protect -- without charge and imprison them indefinitely? Even war criminals have more rights than this.
      • heypetray, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1And who is "they"? The government that I am paying to support? Always watch the choices of authority.
      • SuckMyDigg, on 11/29/2007, -0/+1This is exactly the type of attitude that allows for sweeping grabs of power. "We've been attacked, they can do whatever they need to protect us!" "I'm not doing anything wrong so why should I care if they watch my every move?" "This is no time for civil rights to get in the way of what needs to be done".
        Sometimes my fellow Americans REALLY piss me off.
    • SuperWinner, on 11/20/2007, -3/+11Excellent, everything is proceeding according to my design. (maniacal laughter)
    • acidbass, on 11/20/2007, -2/+25quit talking in the future like "they're gonna...." "soon if we don't, they will...." or "we better... "

      They already have, They already did & We didn't.
      /Get over it
    • sjl127, on 11/20/2007, -4/+2The accusations by the government parallel paranoia.
    • setzek, on 11/20/2007, -5/+3Excellent film on government sponsored terror
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7860484536 ...
    • funkyjunk3, on 11/20/2007, -3/+8F.U.C.K.E.D U.P. That is all I can describe this "miscarriage of justice". A Pulitzer prize winning photographer detained. They have him in a virtual Guantanemo! No real charges, 19 months detained and the defense for this guy is sitting there making up reasons why because they have nothing else to go off of. F.U.C.K.E.D. U.P!
    • Pake, on 11/20/2007, -10/+5A) He's not a US citizen, so you can't say "police state" over his arrest. B) How about we wait till the trial before jumping to conclusions?
      • UNL1M1T3D, on 11/20/2007, -7/+4Don't be silly, just jump on the paronia bandwagon, all the cool kids are doing it.
      • sloudon, on 11/20/2007, -2/+11Of course we cant jump to conclusions, but you have to admit that 19 months in prison without charge is disgraceful.
      • Lythium, on 11/20/2007, -1/+9Whatever the facts of his case may be, I would say that 19 months is plenty long enough to be waiting for a trial - particularly when no evidence has been submitted. Sure, it's a war zone, and our troops have the right to defend themselves - this includes taking suspicious people into custody.
        But how about releasing information about _why_ someone is taken into custody? What is it about this particular case that makes it so top-secret? After 19 months - a year and a half - do you really think this will go to trial? And even if it does, how is his defense to be prepared if they don't know the charges?
      • lalop, on 11/20/2007, -2/+5***** that. Why should a foreign power imprison someone on his own country, without proof or warranties?
        This type of abuse is what fuels insurgency.
    • TruthforAll, on 11/20/2007, -2/+6This reminds me of the insanity of Salem.. burn them all! They are all terrorists!
    • mr.hostility, on 11/20/2007, -1/+6What do you expect at this point? We have rogue leaders who ignore the foundations of the country, and a population more concerned with the lack of panties on Britney Spears. It's all over, just bow your head and accept it. George Bush is their god, and fear their religion.
  • caferrell, on 11/20/2007, -13/+167It just keeps getting worse.
    • crazybugger, on 11/20/2007, -38/+3It just keeps getting better.
    • BigBadTauren, on 11/20/2007, -0/+6"Okay, now cross this line."
    • lagrange, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1Thank god the adults are back in charge.
  • chingy1788, on 11/20/2007, -27/+22wait
    so if you have a camera and photographing your friends and family on the beach or park or what ever you get arrested? possibly bashed, tasered and tear gassed
    then locked up for 10 years
    • ufia, on 11/20/2007, -21/+14If the beach or park happens to be located in Iraq, and the photo of your friends contains precious tactical info that shall not be disclosed to the enemies. Then yes, all of the above.
      • nigh7dagger, on 11/20/2007, -8/+5You forgot to add "and having people who are breaking the law in your apartment".
    • inajeep, on 11/20/2007, -4/+11No, read the article.
    • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -1/+4Yes, exactly. The only way to stop it is to leave $1000 in small, unmarked bills on the park bench at 5th and Main at 5 am on Tuesday, November 27. Come alone and leave immediately after dropping the case.
      • bundwallah, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1I can see you receiving a lot of paper bags with something brown and smelly at 5th and main. And it won't be a Zune!!!! :)
  • laterthandawn, on 11/20/2007, -11/+62Wonderful.

    This: "convincing and irrefutable evidence that Bilal Hussein is a threat to stability and security in Iraq as a link to insurgent activity" is so freaking vague, you could turn it into pretty much anything when it goes to trial. I'm sure they're cooking up something great right now.
    • malman4, on 11/20/2007, -15/+5If you read the article, you would see they don't have to cook up anything.
    • razorsharpwit, on 11/20/2007, -0/+4I can't believe the US is using the "new ***** has come to light" excuse-
      "they were Nazis, dude?"
  • aslave2thegrind, on 11/20/2007, -20/+105Police State...because we've allowed it to become one.
    • Spanktacular, on 11/20/2007, -2/+21While I agree with your fears, this is in Iraq.
    • oldhick, on 11/20/2007, -0/+11Iraq IS a police state, by definition... Where have you been?
    • Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2007, -3/+10What you call a police state(Iraq), they are calling "testing grounds", just as Katrina was. It is really incredible to see all the peices falling into place with such immense apathy ...sometimes I fear Americans won't even be aware when the tipping point is reached.
      • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -4/+6Give them enough rope and these nazis will hang themselves. Americans are already becoming aware that an enormous sea change in American government is in the offing. President Ron Paul would be the easy way for all concerned. The hard way is - harder. But we'll get there.
    • Lennalf, on 11/20/2007, -1/+3What exactly can we do? Don't tase me, bro!
    • BobSutan, on 11/20/2007, -1/+3http://www.teaparty07.com

      December 16, 2007
      Goal is $10M

      Don't forget to register and vote in the PRIMARIES!!!
    • mdepaul, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1So stop whining about this and do something. If everyone who complained about the US becoming a police state would actually be willing to get off their asses and stop it it wouldn't be a problem. I personally am optimistic enough to wait until these morons are out of office and see if the next person changes things. If things don't change, I'm gonna get an AK.
    • crapmatic, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1I haven't allowed it. I voted the assholes out in 2004, yet later that evening I had to hear the sheep on my very own phpbb board saying stuff like "Four more years, Mr. President!"
    • sircomix, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1I agree, but what CAN we do about it? Strorm the White House with rifles? That'll be REAL productive. I've written to every one of my political reps. What else we can do i am not sure.
      • diggzaphod, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1you can VOTE, talk about what's going on to people you know, get them to care too!, attend rallys. go to the political rallys and ask questions, demand answers. get involved, and get others to get invloved. join the political party of your choice and vote for people who want change. People died so that you would have these rights, don't let it slip away.
      • sherrife, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1Start reading revolutionary texts! Also going to rallies, town hall meetings, political workshops and recruiting others to do similar is vital to keep the movement growing.

        The "write a letter" myth is just another sham to maintain the illusion of democracy in the late-stage corporatist capitalism we see around us. No politicians has given, or will ever give a flying rats about letters from "concerned citizens" when the issue is as big as foreign policy (ie. corporate imperialism).
  • rrc7cz, on 11/20/2007, -9/+86I have noticed more and more articles about our government holding people without charging them/denying basic rights/etc. I'm scared to death of the day we become numb to this.. and it becomes "normal"
    • ufia, on 11/20/2007, -30/+4It must suck to be an Al-Qaeda insurgent in this day and age, isn't it? Judging by most Digg comments, we have many of them around. You are scared to death now, as you should. We won't let you destroy America.
      • DaveDepraved, on 11/20/2007, -3/+18it must suck to be a fascist police stater.
        • Pake, on 11/20/2007, -8/+1It must suck to note have read the article and realized the journalist isn't an American citizen, so that screaming "fascist" makes no sense here. Although, some idiot will probably try to justify it's use like trying to justify something else retarded like making a banana into a vegetable.
      • stone42, on 11/20/2007, -1/+12go look up who created and runs al quaeda , go read some history (not the false history you were taught in school ) they have been doing it for years to get what they want geopolitically and you idiots fall for it every time .
        check some of this out

        http://www.alexanderhamiltoninstitute.org/lp/Hanco ...
      • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -2/+4You're a fanatical, anti-American tool, who has betrayed his oath to defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States (NOT "the government - any government, constitutional or not"). If you think Constitutionalist Americans (real Americans, not globalist, Nazi wannabes) are afraid of you, you are mistaken. I have more scalps on my wall than you have hairs on your balls, you mouthy little Hitler Youth. And there's room for one more.
      • owlfeathers, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2Because America is destroying itself...
      • EuphopiaB, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2The evil capitalists seek to destroy our nation! Wait, sorry, the evil Jews! Damn, um, Al-Qaeda! Hard to keep up with the times.
    • F1R3DUP, on 11/20/2007, -0/+6I've been hearing so much of this stuff lately that some may already consider it "normal". sad...
    • Hanzotori, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2Sadly, I believe it already is normal. Who is really surprised?
    • FongoBongo, on 11/20/2007, -0/+13A simple recap of the current state of America:

      Wire tapping without a warrant...check
      Arresting people without conviction and holding them indefinitely as long as the are considered a threat to national security...check
      The constitution has become disregarded due to a pass in legislation (patriot act)...check
      The government disregards its sole purpose to defend the constitution and the people of this nation...check
      Police brutality has become a norm...check
      Torture is now considered OK...check
      Political candidates no longer serve the interest of people but adhere to political/corporate/personal agendas...check

      Welcome to Fascist America
  • arnigunnar, on 11/20/2007, -17/+84http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/phot ...

    "Hussein, an Iraqi who lives in the western Anbar province city of Ramadi, has been held without charge by the U.S. military since April 2006, when bomb parts and insurgent propaganda were found in his house after the U.S. military asked to use it as an observation post during an operation."

    I know, it's way to long to hold someone without charge, but bombparts and more stuff was found at his house ... it's not like he was just photographing at the beach.
    • Spanktacular, on 11/20/2007, -10/+72Bomb parts are anything from cel phones to fuel these days. Propaganda is anything critical of the U.S. invasion forces.
      • StatusWoe, on 11/20/2007, -4/+6Uh-Oh, he had digg bookmarked on his laptop, I'm pretty sure that counts.

        and if they asked to use it why would he let them in if he had incriminating stuff there?
        • Zeonix, on 11/20/2007, -5/+2Because you really don't have a choice in the matter. Saying no arouses suspicion, and will make the soldiers want to enter and check the place out. Why? Because it makes soldiers think you might be hiding something or someone. By saying yes, you're saying "I have nothing to hide guys. It's ok, don't bother looking at anything in my house. I'm a cool guy. That laptop doesn't have anything useful on it since I deal with insurgents in pers...uh....just head on upstairs."
        • onekevinc, on 11/20/2007, -7/+4By saying "No, you cannot use my house as an observation post", you are saving yourself from being killed for helping the occupiers.
          • Zeonix, on 11/20/2007, -0/+3And getting yourself killed for helping insurgents. The people of Iraq really are in a lose/lose situation.
          • onekevinc, on 11/21/2007, -0/+0Exactly. Don't see why I got dugg down for that comment.
    • senatorpjt, on 11/20/2007, -5/+41I was also charged once with carrying "burglar's tools" because I was walking around in an abandoned building while carrying a swiss army knife.
      • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -10/+4"Walking around in an abandoned building" was probably the first mistake.
        Did you happen to use anyting, like the swiss army knife, to gain access?
        • banq59, on 11/20/2007, -0/+10It is called Urban Exploring. It is actually quite fun. Abandoned insane asylums are reaaaallly creepy.
        • senatorpjt, on 11/21/2007, -0/+1No, I walked in the front door. I always carry the knife.
    • Cerebral, on 11/20/2007, -1/+18Ummm how about the whole "after the U.S. military asked to use it as an observation post during an operation." I seriously doubt that dude was dumb enough to let the army into his house if he was planning an attack against them. If he refused and then they forced themselves in, then that's a whole different story altogether. I don't know what the laws are in Iraq but I guess we can/and do whatever the hell we want to over there. Hell I'm so pissed off at our current administration and the government in general that I'm probably considered a terrorist.
      • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -2/+2"Hell I'm so pissed off at our current administration and the government in general that I'm probably considered a terrorist."
        Yet, you and Ted Rall and millions of other people with an opinion contrary to the Congress and White House are allowed to roam free. It's just part of their plan. If they don't put us all in jail that will make people think that they don't have a reason to be afraid. But that's just what they WANT us to think. Indeed, they are actually plotting to ALLOW people to express dissenting opinions in order to create the illusion of freedom, all the while thinking something completely different themselves. We should all wake up to the truth. Or not.
      • BlacklabelSAR, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2"Hell I'm so pissed off at our current administration and the government in general that I'm probably considered a terrorist."
        And for that I consider you a true patriot.
      • feoren, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1That's the whole point, there are no laws in Iraq. That's why everyone is charged in Iraqi "courts" (read: theaters).
    • obliviousfool, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2Thank you. That wasn't so hard, was it?
    • Tippis, on 11/20/2007, -0/+8That's really the whole problem, isn't it?
      It looks like an open-shut case, and it seems like they actually do have some evidence to support it.
      So why are they weakening their position -- to the point where it should really be thrown out of court -- by breaking international laws?
      • banq59, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1Because they want to see what the public reaction is to detaining an American Citizen without charges or trial? They are gaging just how apathetic the American people have become.
    • Puppetx, on 11/20/2007, -0/+6Bomb parts? Sorta like the mooninites from boston?
      • Lythium, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1"Moonbats." I think the slur-of-choice in the current thread is "moonbats."
    • Chassit, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1I'll bet you that I can look under your kitchen sink and find everything I need to make a bomb.
    • pkonink, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1I wonder if anyone's grandfather could have been arrested and held with no charges for a luger or bayonet he brought back from Germany in 1946? Maybe he was just collecting mementos for later display - as in, "look at this grandson, I was there and these were the crazy-***** devices they used to blow us up every day."

      Regardless, he could be as guilty as the summer sand is hot - he is being held with no charges and no evidence has been presented.
  • Spawn2105, on 11/20/2007, -6/+25Look at all that has happened under the pretense of fighting terrorism and protecting US soil.
    The Dept. of Homeland Security can snoop around all they want in your privacy, military expenses are so high that not only the american economy but the entire worlds economy can feel its effects, and now the military can even hold someone overseas for almost 2 years without ever making indisputable claims of evidence or anything like that. How much clearer can it be that this is not the decentralized government that once made the USA great but that its slowly becoming a police state in every sense of the description?
    I cant wait for the 2008 election, theres so much that needs to be addressed / changed
    • Cerebral, on 11/20/2007, -0/+7"I cant wait for the 2008 election, theres so much that needs to be addressed / changed"
      Yes but will it... Unless the YOUNG people of this country 18-30ish step up and tell the government they don't like what they are doing, nothing will happen. Everyone is saying that something will happen in the 2008 election but where are the people running to make this change? From what I can tell is that everyone that is running (save Ron Paul and possibly a few others) are all in the same game. So what does it matter when all of congress and local government is voted for? All the players are a part of the game in 90% of the country. The laws need to change about running for congress etc. so that you cannot make a CAREER out of it but guess who writes the laws... yup. This will take a large PHYSICAL force to change our government for the greater good. The lobbying needs to stop. Corporations who have gotten handouts from the government for various things needs to fulfill their promises (I'm talking to you telcos). The copyright and patent laws/system needs a big change. Lastly something needs to be done about the Federal Reserve. There is plenty of money out there for the government. We need to worry about our country and stay out of the affairs of the rest of the world. All the money that has been spent on this pointless war could have easily been spent to help the homeless, sick, needy, poor, uneducated, unemployed and put into the economy and still have money left over. All the subsidy ***** needs to stop along with tax cuts and other benefits of outsourcing labor to other countries. Companies should be penalized for laying off thousands of workers only to outsource the same jobs to other countries. Things like inheritance should not be double taxed. There is so much wrong with this country that the 2008 election really means nothing. It may be a stepping stone or a small pebble thrown into a lake but it is far from a solution.
    • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -0/+5I bet you couldn't wait for the 2006 election. Putting the Democrats in control of Congress was supposed to end the war. But they didn't have the guts to really make a change. Why should we believe that the next president will do ANYTHING?
      The real power is with the Congress and the Congress is doing NOTHING.
  • Spanktacular, on 11/20/2007, -12/+97This is what apathy gets you.

    By the way, everything the government does is with the barrel of a gun. Drive too fast? A man with a gun will pull you over. Don't pay your income taxes? Men with guns will come and take your freedom. Try to protest in the same location as King Bush? Men with guns will take you away. Get arrested without charges and thrown into a hole for months to years on end? Yep, that's the work of men with guns.

    If you don't vote the right people into office, the only way to get the wrong ones out will eventually be with guns helping you. Why do you think there is a second amendment? It ain't for shooting squirrels.
    • nigh7dagger, on 11/20/2007, -22/+4The man with the gun pulling you over needs it. The man with the gun taking you away after you don't pay taxes needs it. The men with guns keeping you from an unpopular leader need them.

      By the way, men with nightsticks do that in places where there aren't men without guns.
      • dildoolielly, on 11/20/2007, -4/+8Do you get paid to post this rediculous *****?!
        • nigh7dagger, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1Do you get paid to have ***** spelling?
      • imofirey, on 11/20/2007, -2/+5He's right though, as long as we have the right to bare arms, so shall they.
      • Cerebral, on 11/20/2007, -4/+2Viscous cycle isn't it.
      • petewiz, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2He needs it? *****, how many traffic stops end up with the cop using his gun? If the show "Cops" was realistic, it would be boring as hell because it would be the cop driving around all day and giving tickets, not pulling his gun out on people like they show in every clip.
        And why the hell would people who don't pay taxes need a gun pointed at them? "Watch out, this guy's dangerous. He cheated a little on his taxes."
        It's illogical conclusions like "guns are necessary" that come from the same school of thought as "let's produce enough nuclear weapons to wipe out the human race ten times over, because the other guys have some."
        • nigh7dagger, on 11/20/2007, -1/+11. It's better for the traffic cop to have a gun and not use it than need it and not have it.
          2. People who don't pay taxes might not like the idea of getting pounded in the ass by their cellmate and decide to resist arrest.
          3. If another country has enough nukes to kill all of us, then we'd better have enough nukes to kill all of them back if they decide to mess with us. And the reason we have more than enough is that some might be lost in an initial strike by another country.
    • imofirey, on 11/20/2007, -0/+12This is true, however now there are men with guns in schools.
    • itsameericle, on 11/20/2007, -6/+3I don't plan on shooting someone. My vote does nothing. I have no time for political activism. I don't want to simply wait for ***** to get beyond repair for everybody else to wake up and to do something about it.
      What can I possibly do?
      • zyl0x, on 11/20/2007, -4/+19You have no TIME for political activism?? Then you don't deserve your freedom.
        • obliviousfool, on 11/20/2007, -0/+13No, no, no. The other person has a point. Many people I know work 60 or 70 hours a week. This cuts to the root of our collective political slavery. The weakening dollar, the spike in housing, the steady climb of energy costs, the steady climb of health care costs, this adds up to a population that needs to spend most of its time working just to get by. If we had more idle hands, we'd have a revolution.
        • codesuidae, on 11/20/2007, -2/+8"Many people I know work 60 or 70 hours a week. This cuts to the root of our collective political slavery. The weakening dollar, the spike in housing, the steady climb of energy costs, the steady climb of health care costs, this adds up to a population that needs to spend most of its time working just to get by."

          Many of us would have a lot more time if we had a lot fewer luxury items. Dump the fancy house and car, 300 cable channels, DVR, regular eating out, frozen meals, etc. A great many of us could be just as happy with less stuff, and then have to work less to pay for what we do have, giving us more time (or the same time and more savings, or both).
        • itsameericle, on 11/27/2007, -1/+1Freedom is a natural right. I shouldn't have to prove myself to a ineffective and self serving political system that doesn't listen to me anyways. Despite that belief, I try anyways. There are barriers though:
          The true amount of time it takes to effect a change is enormous. It is not practical for many people to do so.
          Also, when something is finally achieved, it often does very little to change the system. Most change in law happens on a societal level when the prevailing view in society shifts, whereas a legal change is often (practically speaking now) in a place of decision making that is far from my personal influence.
          I was expressing my exasperation at these barriers.
      • tyzent, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2do what a few of us are doing, get out of america. i have only a year left until i graduate, then i'm leaving the states
    • id10tjoeuser, on 11/20/2007, -0/+6That's right! If they want my guns, they are welcome to try and come get them. Arm yourselves people, while you still can.
    • eatbeefjerky, on 11/21/2007, -1/+1You aren't wrong, but authority will always have bigger guns. ALWAYS. Maybe it was different in the 1700s where the deadliest weapon available was a musket, but right now, in this day and age, if the government does not like you, they can destroy your home before you even reach for the bullets. If the government does not like you, all the guns in the world aren't going to help you.
  • TheShadowKnows, on 11/20/2007, -17/+20The US military claims "Bilal Hussein is a threat to stability and security in Iraq."

    Perhaps that's because his photographs might show Americans what's really going on there.

    A more accurate statement would be "Bilal Hussein is a threat to stability and security *of the US Government's long-term plans* in Iraq."
    • Egoist, on 11/20/2007, -2/+8There are plenty of photographers who photograph the carnage, yet they're still free. Your logic doesn't hold up.
      • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -4/+5Hey! This discussion isn't about logic or reason or facts. This is Digg. We spit on facts, relieve ourselves on reason and use logic as toilet paper.
      • Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2007, -3/+4And clearly because there are Muslims in the world that are not in secret prisons - clearly we are not holding Muslims in secret prisons for no reason.

        Is that your logic you are using?
      • tsotha, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2Yeah. It's pretty clear if you look at the pictures he took over time the guy was either working with or in constant contact with the terrorists. And no, I don't consider people who blow up a market to be "insurgents".
    • imofirey, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1Photographing carnage can be done in any third world country... That doesn't mean that it is dammning or not.
    • HotSaucePanCake, on 11/20/2007, -1/+0i don't think i'd be so vein to assume
      • pkonink, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1"...I'd be so vein to assume" one of the more interesting Freudian slips I've witnessed. I will be pondering this one for weeks, lol.
    • geekee, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1TheShoadowKnows how to write propaganda.
  • vwvan, on 11/20/2007, -12/+2this is nothing. you can't grow grass on the front lawn without being arrested.
    what is being done about that?
    • nigh7dagger, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1Uh, I have grass on my front lawn and I'm not getting pounded in the ass by an inmate in the shower every night.
    • Cerebral, on 11/20/2007, -0/+6I don't understand your comment.
      • _skin_, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1I believe he is referencing the water ban some localities have right now.
    • sparsely, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1save your time and burn the lawn.
  • maverex, on 11/20/2007, -24/+21Not surprising with a Fascist Government.
    • Egoist, on 11/20/2007, -9/+7...in a war zone.
    • thaker, on 11/20/2007, -1/+4That'd be like Americans calling your native Canada communist
      • id10tjoeuser, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2The rest of the world is calling America an effective dictatorship, and I agree with them. When you have a Commander-in-chief declaring he can nullify Federal law, our precious Constitution a "G*d damn piece of paper", and all but endorsing an invasion from our southern border, you have to open your eyes and realize there is more happening here than Fox News is "Fair and balanced" to admit. We have been overthrown over the last 93 years. The power brokers want more than our great nations military strength; this whole Earth will be a commune.
  • supertom, on 11/20/2007, -8/+35Another win for the terrorists.
  • Luthorcorp331, on 11/20/2007, -32/+16I'M SO AFRAID!!!

    Buried for lame anti-American jibba jabba.
    • banq59, on 11/20/2007, -2/+6God I hope they come and take your mother and father away in a black van.
    • mizenerd, on 11/20/2007, -4/+0Agreed.
    • diggzaphod, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1I think that is the only way some of these people are ever going to learn
  • NeverOffside, on 11/20/2007, -7/+14Isn't this just more of the same, rendition of 'prisoners' to torture chambers in Europe, security companies making profits and prolonging the conflict to retain cash cow, even lies about the purpose of the entire Iraq war. They do it because they can, who is going to stop them?
  • ignitethefire, on 11/20/2007, -6/+21I'm sure I will be dugg down for this one, but I would like to bring up what Tom Curley had to say about Hussein:

    "We want the rule of law to prevail. He either needs to be charged or released. Indefinite detention is not acceptable." -Tom Curley, Associated Press CEO

    Whether or not the evidence presented in his trial will be real or not, and independent of our collective opinion on whether his incarceration has been lawful, I think it is only fair to point out that Hussein will be charged with something rather than continuing to sit in jail without any formal charges in an Iraqi court.
    • Beon, on 11/20/2007, -4/+0Maybe
    • jadenar, on 11/20/2007, -1/+7He will be charged? When? It's been over a year and a half since he was imprisoned. Good thing he wasn't holding his breath.
    • PenguinWrangler, on 11/20/2007, -1/+7...He hasn't been charged in over a year...so your statement is based on???
      • withincontext, on 11/20/2007, -1/+3Because we don't cut and run?

        /sarcasm
      • ignitethefire, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2Did you bother to read the article?
  • TexTurboesq, on 11/20/2007, -16/+22Digg Knee Jerk effect.
  • Zeonix, on 11/20/2007, -19/+23God, so many of you are either stupid or didn't bother reading the article. They said they have evidence but are unwilling to present anyone with it at this time, and they suspect he was working with or at the very least, affiliated with insurgents. They said he just happened to be present on multiple occasions when insurgents struck, and that aroused suspicion. They want the case to go through the Iraqi judicial system where THEY will decide whether or not to throw out the case, and if the case goes through, whether or not he is guilty.

    Are they just randomly arresting photographers because "THE PICTURES SHOW THE TRUTH!!! 400 MILLION AMERICANS HAVE DIED IN AMERICA!!!"? Uh..no. Does this have anything to do with fascism? No.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7103239.stm
    • Zeonix, on 11/20/2007, -5/+3Whoops, should read: "THE PICTURES SHOW THE TRUTH!!! 400 MILLION AMERICANS HAVE DIED IN IRAQ!!!"?
    • senatorpjt, on 11/20/2007, -5/+5It sounds like all you need to do to be present when insurgents strike in Iraq is to be in Iraq.
    • Spawn2105, on 11/20/2007, -7/+10so holding someone for 19 months without making charges or giving details about any evidence is ok for you i guess.
      doesnt have anything to do with fascism, but sure as hell isn't how the legal system is supposed to work
      • Zeonix, on 11/20/2007, -5/+6Do you even know what fascism is?
        • Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1I see you
        • BlacklabelSAR, on 11/20/2007, -2/+41. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
          2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
          3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

          4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
          5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
          6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
          7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
          8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
          to the government's policies or actions.
          9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
          10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
          11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
          12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
          13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
          14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
      • Wosat, on 11/20/2007, -0/+4Is this guy a citizen? Has he ever been to the US? What the hell does this have to do with our legal system?
    • DooM, on 11/20/2007, -2/+7Hussein's attorney has been hearing that for 19 months now if you read the article. The military says "We have damning evidence" the AP says "What is it?" and they provide something silly in response. FTA:

      Morrell asserted the military has "convincing and irrefutable evidence that Bilal Hussein is a threat to stability and security in Iraq as a link to insurgent activity" and called Hussein "a terrorist operative who infiltrated the AP."

      AP Associate General Counsel Dave Tomlin rejected the claim: "That's what the military has been saying for 19 months, but whenever we ask to see what's so convincing we get back something that isn't convincing at all."
    • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -2/+6If they don't want to release the evidence to the public, then let them bring on the charges and start the trial. After 19 months, I think it's fair to say they've found everything they're ever going to find. By this point, it's obvious that they are dragging their heels, holding a US civilian without charge, trial, or evidence.

      By the way, while they're finding all of this evidence, they are required to present it to the defense so that they can make their case. This isn't something they can excuse by saying that it would jeopardize the trial. The defense needs to know what evidence is against them so that they can make a case for themselves instead of having to provide explanations on the spot. This is exactly what the AP expects will happen.
    • pkonink, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1The problem isn't that they arrested a journalist they suspect has ties to insurgent/terrorist groups. The problem, like everything else for the past seven years, is how they are handling the situation. And I guess I am obtuse for pointing out they are handling the situation with a superb degree of incompetence and a stunning lack of respect for basic American values.
  • LMControl, on 11/20/2007, -7/+11Is this the dude that was caught photo-chopping last year in the Israeli-Hezzbollah/Hamas conflict?
    • barthook, on 11/20/2007, -7/+4Yes. He also seems to get plenty of shots of insurgents attacking our military (from the insurgents angle).
      • DooM, on 11/20/2007, -2/+6Fail. FTA: The AP inquiry found no support for either of those claims. The bulk of the photographs Hussein provided the AP were not about insurgent activity; he detailed both the aftermath of attacks and the daily lives of Iraqis in the war zone. There was no evidence that any images were coordinated with the insurgents or showed the instant of an attack.
        • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -3/+1They have negative propaganda value from the army of occupation's viewpoint, however (that of the American Federal Empire). So they abducted him and threw him in a hole.
    • banq59, on 11/20/2007, -2/+3Buried for "photo-chopping." Go back to Fark.
  • dildoolielly, on 11/20/2007, -23/+54Bush's USA More like the SOVIET UNION
    than the country we grew up in.

    Oh how far we've come (for the worst). The similarites are staggering.

    The government was always right and never apologized;
    -Any dissent was suppressed, ridiculed, banned or worse;
    -Secret prisons were denied and never acknowledged or spoken about;
    -The torture of captives (in Lubyanka) was condoned;
    -State incarceration was not subject to the checks and balances of a legal system;
    -Economic plans, like for oil, were established/determined in closed sessions between politicos, commissars and production managers, far outside public view, and where government claimed privilege in so doing;
    -Wages were set at the lowest common denominator, no matter what Bloc country you were in;
    -Government agents had access to your medical records, your library records, your telephone, and your e-mail.
    -A place where judicial power and judicial review were proclaimed concepts, but simply ignored in application;
    -Where criminal records of young adults were closed to all but the military;
    -Where a Constitution was a mere facade and ignored by state actors.
    -Any dissent, debate and protest were deemed unpatriotic;
    -The military clandestinely and shamelessly influenced the national media and public opinion;
    -A place where wrong was declared right;
    -Where tapping a phone was like tapping a pencil;
    -Where lying was considered a patriotic skill;
    -The extraction of natural resources was paramount to any concern for the environment and the impact on the health of its people;
    -Where the use of “state secrets,” (those things embarrassing to the government) were confused with legitimate issues of “national security”;
    -A place where "secrecy" and "national security" were used to control debate;
    -Where legitimate secrecy, was subject to political use and abuse;
    -Where "legislators" were mere mouthpieces for and rubberstamps of whoever was in power;
    -Where you lived and died with the permission of the government;
    -A place where foreign policy was more important than domestic concerns;
    -Where fear was used as a political weapon and an acceptable means of control;
    -Where the best medical care was reserved for the influential;
    -Where wealth was concentrated in the top 5%;
    -A place where there was no middle class - just a small economic and political elite, and the working poor.
    The Soviet Union- A people’s paradise where the people were in control of their state - but we here in America knew better and we fought the Soviet system with everything we had because we could not endure a Soviet style system here in the United States.


    Since 1995 the Republican Party and its friends in the American corporate structures that so vigorously contribute to and support them have---in the space of a decade---created in this country more than the beginnings of a system that this country spent 50 years trying to dismantle."

    MEANWHILE, SOME DUMB HICK IN GEORGIA
    ...is saying "I'm glad terrorists isn't attacking my woodshed".
    • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -13/+14Your post is insult for all victims of USSR communist regime. You does not have clue what you are talking. Please stop compare USA with former USSR.
      • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -4/+13Just as we ought not to speak the truth about America's new concentration camps, because it supposedly insults those were interred in Germany's. And we ought not to question the politically stacked and censored "official" 9/11 Commission's cover up, because it supposedly insults the victims' families (the majority of whom are outraged by the official whitewash and active in demanding an independent inquiry). Horse. *****. Try again.
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -3/+4What concentration camp you talking? Read some books for beggining. Start with "Kolyma" by
          Varlam Shalamov. May be after reading you will understand something.
          http://www.amazon.com/Kolyma-Twentieth-Century-Cla ...
          • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -1/+3Yes, horrible. The point is, it didn't stop there. It CAN happen again, here, and shows all the signs of doing so. Not the same in every detail, but in every detail that matters. I don't care if my freedoms are being stomped on by "communists" or "fascists." The torture, the abduction, the lies, the censorship, the propaganda, the rape, the robbery, the phoney elections, the bullying - these are all the same. and they are equally ANTI-AMERICAN. The important question is not "which is worse." Obviously we are at a proto-fascist moment, where freedom's defenses and limits are being tested prior to the fullblown implementationof the "emergency government" that has been so meticulously planned for and funded. The important question is: "What are you going to do to prevent it from happening again?"
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2I am not agree with you. We have propaganda, but it is from both side and we have a lot free press. Censorship? Every government secret program was expose by press(sometimes it was damaging country security). Phony elections? Are you talking about last election in 2006 when government party was defeat by opposition? Rape, robbery? What rape you talking about?
      • obliviousfool, on 11/20/2007, -2/+9Are you saying that we should wait for it to get much worse before we start making comparisons?
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -2/+3I am saying you cannot compare USSR and USA. Period. 2 different systems. Read some book. Comparing USA with USSR make emigrants from former USSR really angry because they could do real comparison.
          • obliviousfool, on 11/20/2007, -3/+2I understand your point. I used to run a chapter of Amnesty International. We would write letters to all sorts of officials in the USSR asking them to free various political prisoners. The Soviets would often write back saying that they would consider our requests when we successfully petitioned our own government to free Leonard Peltier! That was the worst American abuse of human rights they could point to! Now they could point to thousands of human rights abuses by the USA! Our country is sliding toward a police state, and we have lost any moral authority we once had on the issue of human rights. At what point is it okay to make comparisons between the USA and the USSR? When it is too late to do anything about it?
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2In USA we have free press, we have right to protest, we have right to vote. imagine Bush will try to seek reelection in 2008. What you think would be result of this election? In USA people could control government(to some point) thru election process. Compare 2004 and 2006 election. Human right abuses exist in any country and USA is not worst country. We could do better, but we are in war. And 1000 abuses? I think you are not right in this, but even one abuse is not good. But in case of AP photographer, it is going to court. And in war zone some civil low are not working.
        • geekee, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2he's saying you are a fool for making such a comparison because it's is sensationalist tripe by people who are clueless about the USSR.
      • BlacklabelSAR, on 11/20/2007, -4/+6Your tactic for censoring dissent is transparent. The comparison is dead on. So are the 14 points of fascism . ***** Godwin's Law. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, I'm calling it a duck! So should you.
        • geekee, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1In your case if it walks like a duck and looks like a duck, It's a man-eating tiger. That's about the level of reasoning skills you sjow with such a comparison. Show me the millions of dead US citizens and I'll take your comparison as something other than sensationalist propaganda.
      • pkonink, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2We still have the right to speek freely, we do not have the right to not have it constantly monitored by the Total Information Awareness Office.

        We are not in a war, we are in a non-war - an eternal idealogical struggle against shadowy forces. That is not a war, that is marketing to sell weapons and keep the public in fear. Like the mafia, Al Quaeda's natural opponents are the CIA, FBI, Scotland Yard, Interpol - not the military.

        Human rights abuses do exist everywhere, even in America, but now our leaders are openly flaunting the law - the Geneva Conventions which we ratified - in order to condone something as despicable as torture. Human rights abuses no longer sometimes happen, they are now institutionalized.

        And as for Bush running for re-election in 2008 - he won't have to if he decides to put his "executive orders" into effect.
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -2/+2Geneva convention apply only to regular army, it is not apply to terrorist organizations. And if you think 10000 terrorist attacks around world from 9/11 is not war you just putting your head into sand
          • pkonink, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2I assume you made up the 10,000 number. And also, the attacks began long before 9/11. And your geneva convention comment smacks of nonsensical media regurgitation (hint: America's military branches are not terrorists, the GC DOES apply to them). All in all, FAIL.

            But to not be a snide prick and actually respond to your comment: No it is not a war. No more than the public massacres and various acts of terrorism carried out by the gangsters in the 1920s were a war. It is a law enforcement and counter-espionage issue, not a military issue.
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -1/+210000 terrorist attack number was all over Internet one or 2 week ago(exclude left websites).
          I just don't have time right now to find link.
          Geneva convention is actually apply ONLY to regular army and BOTH sides must follow it.
          If cutting heads is part of Geneva convention then it could apply to AL Qaeda.
          Gangster attack was about money, not about political or religion gain. If you look in Gangster wars they was fighting against each other, not against civilian population. And you cannot fight against terrorism only with police or intelligence if some countries are harboring terrorists and given them support and weapon.
      • adooga, on 11/20/2007, -1/+3Redmonkey, your phony "foreigner trying to type in English" act which you seem to slip in and out of is getting very boring. Go away and sign in under another pseudonym.
        • redmonkey, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2I am not going to prove it to you, but you could check my other posts and see that my English is far from perfect.
      • dildoolielly, on 11/21/2007, -1/+2Wait a sec, we're now NOT supposed to talk about it?! Yeah, isn't that what a child molester tells his victims too?

    • eviscero, on 11/20/2007, -14/+2Yea, dildoolielly - that's just ***** stupid. Comparing USA to USSR just highlights your ignorance.

      I'd venture to say you are mildly retarded - but fret not - most of Digg is right there with you.

      Carry on
      • dildoolielly, on 11/22/2007, -0/+2I'd suggest you go back and take 3rd grade global history. You've been listening too much to the Jessica Lynch/Pat Tillman branch of US military information.
    • duggtodeath, on 11/20/2007, -4/+7I dugg you up :)
    • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -7/+1Below is my response to each point in a manner as detailed as your post deserves:

      • dildoolielly, on 11/21/2007, -0/+2your reply is far from a rebuttal. Typical
  • heystoopid, on 11/20/2007, -6/+6But then again , the wowsers from the Chimps bully boy brigade have still yet to explain the continued detention of one Al Jazeera journalist "Sami Al Hajj" or prisoner number 345 at Guantanamo Bay for the past 1986 days either or so !
    link =http://www.prisoner345.net/
    As in all wars the US Military have fought in since 1812 , truth is the first casualty !
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/20/2007, -2/+2"Al Hajj witnessed guards flushing a Koran down a toilet"
      HA. That turned out to be a un substanciated lie. Why would an innocent person try to spread Al Qaeda propaganda?
      • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2Please learn to spell. You're not doing the Fatherland any favors by sounding like some mentally defective burden to the state. Carry on, Schultz.
    • vulapine, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1They're just waiting for the number of days to match the year. Then they'll have a big party.
  • p0s3r, on 11/20/2007, -20/+13This guy was a terrorist. ***** him.
    • spyd3rweb, on 11/20/2007, -6/+11proof?
      • p0s3r, on 11/20/2007, -8/+7RTFA.
        • Cerebral, on 11/20/2007, -2/+7The article says nothing that he is a terrorist.
        • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2There is no proof of terrorism in the article. Only that he showed the point of view of ordinary Iraqis (which is damned grim, and an embarrassment to the US army of occupation).
      • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -3/+6 In reply to p0s3r:
        The article says he is not a terrorist and is being held on trumped-up charges with no evidence. RTFA indeed.
        • letdowntourist, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2there are no trumped up charges. he hasn't been charged.
    • tomis, on 11/20/2007, -3/+6Agreed. ***** terrorism. America's occupation of the middle east is terrorism. American police routinely terrorize people, "just doing their job". ***** America and all the police, right?
    • Matthew720, on 11/20/2007, -2/+4Welcome to poser's world where up means down, left means right and despicable, filthy unadulterated lies are THE TRUTH.

      Hey, *****, read the article before responding.
    • jkgm, on 11/20/2007, -2/+6You're a terrorist. I have just as much proof of that as you do of your assertion.
  • flink405, on 11/20/2007, -9/+14You all don´t think that jouranlists can´t be criminals or be terrrorists? LOL.

    "Hussein was detained April 12, 2006 after marines entered his house in Ramadi to establish a temporary observation post and found bomb-making materials, insurgent propaganda and a surveillance photograph of a US military installation.".
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=0711200346 ...

    ------------------
    And are you all naive enough to think that the Associated Press (AP) is going to write a negative report about an AP reporter or photographer?
    • Deanblackoak, on 11/20/2007, -6/+7Yes, so they claim. Evidence?
    • NEWNHLISLAME, on 11/20/2007, -4/+2oohhh the Terrorists are coming the terrorists are coming arrest everyone. chicken ***** War mongers. They arrest those who dont agree with the military industrial complex. if your not with us your against us remember that?
      • mizenerd, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2For all the complaints about how the US handles the "War on Terror", I hear nobody coming up with other solutions to how you handle people attacking in the name of Islam. What good ideas do all of the whiners on here have? Give up? Let your Citizens be killed? Cower in the corner? I would like to hear some ideas.
        • chijim70, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1Listen jack ass. NO TERRORISTS CAME FROM IRAQ! Nobody here I've ever heard has ever said we shouldn't catch Osama in Afghanistan or where ever he is.
          Lastly, you don't war against an idea which is what the "war on terror" is. It gives an open ended, non resolvable, fill in your own amount on the check, stamp of approval on perpetual war and is making us look worse and worse in the global community which in case you didn't fregin notice is weakening us big time in the global economy. We stay in Afghanistan looking for Osama and we pull out of Iraq and focus those BILLIONS we spend in Iraq being nurse maids to cavemen on tightening up security at home and if that had been done right the first ***** time 9/11 wouldn't have happened at all!
    • Tippis, on 11/20/2007, -3/+2That's not the issue. The issue is that even as a (suspected) criminal or terrorist, he has rights -- rights that are being refused to him in this case.
      • ripsterman, on 11/21/2007, -0/+0What about the rights of the half million or so he executed?
    • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -5/+2I'll bet they found a bottle of ammonia under the sink, a copy of "It Takes a Village" and a shot of some General's wife whoring it up in the Green Zone cantina. But we don't know what they found, because they didn't bring evidence to trial - they threw this man in a hole, because of his ethnicity, and because he showed through his photos what a ***** the US army of occupation has turned that country into.
      • ripsterman, on 11/21/2007, -1/+0I partially agree because of 2 things....One the United States needs to concern itself more with the United States....second Bush lied in everything concerning Iraq and the war against....and 3 the U.S. has definitely ripped that country apart and civilians casualties estimated to being 10 times higher than either "military" or "insurgent" kills tend to bear that out.
    • ripsterman, on 11/21/2007, -0/+0Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? LOL
  • nastronomical, on 11/20/2007, -12/+5Hand him over to the iraqi govt and let them deal with him. I am sure you moronic Liberals idiots knows what gona happen next :).
    • badlogik, on 11/20/2007, -1/+4You mean the government that was dismantled and replaced by a US backed government?
  • HotSaucePanCake, on 11/20/2007, -12/+4Lets remind our selves of what Geraldo Rivera did in the war...

    "Another controversy arose in early 2003, while Rivera was embedded with U.S. military personnel in Iraq. During a Fox News broadcast, Rivera began to disclose an upcoming operation, even going so far as to draw a map in the sand for his audience. The military immediately issued a firm denouncement of his actions, saying it put the operation at risk, and nearly expelled Rivera from Iraq. Two days later, he announced that he would be reporting on the Iraq conflict from Kuwait.[10]"

    taken from wikipedia...

    now do you understand why this buck futter shouldn't be snapping random photos... putting troops life in danger is not gonna fly with a judge.
    • DooM, on 11/20/2007, -3/+8If they had locked Geraldo up for a year and a half without charges you might have yourself an analogy there, champ.
    • tomis, on 11/20/2007, -2/+4Yet they didn't put the guy with a nationally known face and name in prison without charges for years. Yet someone who isn't a Fox News correspondent, well who gives a ***** about them right!
    • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -2/+4Snapping random photos? If those are the allegations against him, good heavens, lock him up and throw away the key!

      Nobody knows what the allegations are against him, aside from the typically vague "working with the terrorists". No evidence, no charges, and 19 months detention -- I don't see any reason to believe that he was "putting troops life in danger".

      And "buck futter"? Come on now. This is a man incarcerated, not Saturday Night Live. Listen to what you are saying.
    • falseleftright, on 11/20/2007, -2/+3Sounds more like this guy saw something he wasn't supposed to see and they are silencing him. Also, your comparison to Geraldo is so far out in left field, that its a foul ball in a different stadium.
  • ralph12c41, on 11/20/2007, -15/+11Buried...this headline is absolutely misleading. Appears this guy and the AP were knowingly distorting coverage of the war and allied with the terrorists. I will believe our military officers before I trust the AP with the truth.
    • HotSaucePanCake, on 11/20/2007, -12/+4A MEN
    • robfis, on 11/20/2007, -5/+4I will believe our military officers before I trust the AP with the truth.

      ^ what a joker this guy is. how can anyone believe that without being in the military.
    • duggtodeath, on 11/20/2007, -4/+7The AP allied with the terrorists? What TERRORISTS? The US invaded an innocent nation. How dare you can people defending their homeland terrorists. If the Chinese invaded your trailer park, and you took up arms to defend it, would that make you a terrorist?
    • Deanblackoak, on 11/20/2007, -4/+4Oh... man... yer asking for a world of hurt. Trust whatever the military says without evidence and vague charges. The only thing you can trust the military with here is rights abuse. They have lots of practice with that. Take a brief tour of history.
      • badlogik, on 11/20/2007, -2/+2The original poster proved very quickly that he does not care about history...
    • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -4/+4Believe our military officers? Right, because it's not like they've ever lied. They didn't make prisoners stand naked with a black bag over their head and have pictures taken of them. They didn't arrest people and hold them in out-of-country prison for years without charges. And they didn't continually deny it, only to change their mind and say, "it has to be done to ensure our freedoms".

      Believe our military officers? I don't believe anyone who holds a gun to my head and tells me I should believe them.
    • falseleftright, on 11/20/2007, -4/+3I was in the military and I don't believe it. It appears this guy saw something the military didn;t want him to see and now he rots in a Siberian...erm Iraqi jail, without charges and without a disclosure of the evidence against him.

      Yeah, that sounds like justice to me
  • markgl, on 11/20/2007, -13/+8its so funny reading the comments on here. you people are so serious and such freedom fighters!!! Can't believe you're siding with the guy thats been arrested and you're for him not being arrested even thou he has become a threat to us. why don't you wait and find out why this guys is being held before you jump off the cliff in protest
    • DooM, on 11/20/2007, -3/+10No one here is against him being arrested - they are against him being held with no charges for a year and a half. No evidence presented of his alleged crimes. Go ahead - arrest whoever - hold them for a reasonable period of time if you like. It's a war zone, you don't have the same luxury of expediency that you do in Detroit - fine. BUT THEN CHARGE HIM OR RELEASE HIM. The man's lost almost two years of his life and no one knows if he's innocent or guilty or even of what he's being accused!
      • Deanblackoak, on 11/20/2007, -2/+9Finally, someone with some sense.
        • markgl, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1yeah let him go and run with the enemy.
    • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -2/+2Yes, we're serious about freedom - it's no ***** game, son. Remember that if the divide you neo-Nazis have made in America heats up, and the time comes to really choose sides. We have something to fight for: freedom. You have lies - and stale, mean-spirited jokes.
      • markgl, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1name calling. you don't even know me.
  • eviscero, on 11/20/2007, -16/+15Hey Digg Morons! Check out a fact - I know most of you are short on facts so be sure to read the below quote from the article. Knowing the facts is basic to any discussion. Obviously we are limited to the facts presented by the press (for this article, for now.) but I'm sure more will become available.



    "Hussein was detained April 12, 2006 after marines entered his house in Ramadi to establish a temporary observation post and found bomb-making materials, insurgent propaganda and a surveillance photograph of a US military installation."

    Yup - you guessed it - he was caught red-handed with incriminating *****. GTFO! He actually had bomb materials in his house! I guess he just happened to be home with timers and detonators - research project.

    I always find it amusing that diggidiots are willing to give islamofacists the benefit of the doubt but not the President of the US. I suppose it has must to do with obvious bias. Pity you people are so biased you can't see in front of your own nose. It makes you seem quite retarded - just so ya know.

    but...you diggidiots cry for him

    LOL

    I guess Digg wins the "I suck terrorist dick - now with swallow" Award.

    Congrats Digg!!!!!!

    Need some mouthwash?

    • tomis, on 11/20/2007, -5/+7Considering "bomb making materials" could describe any number of every day house hold items, and "surveillance photographs" could be photos of some kids playing in the street that happen to have a "military installation" in the background... It's not like the military and US government are known for cooking up false charges based on minimal and inconclusive evidence or anything...
    • Deanblackoak, on 11/20/2007, -4/+8Whew... evidence... you trust the military, just cause they say so. Munch on some propaganda. It's filling, but it ain't healthy.
    • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -3/+8You'd think that if he was caught red-handed with bomb parts and incriminating photos that this would be an open and shut case. So how come he's still being held without trial? How come the military hasn't shown the evidence to the defense so that they can make their case? What isn't in the CNN article is that the military *claims* that they have this evidence, but they aren't showing it to anybody, least of all the defense who has a legal right to see it in order to defend themselves.

      So tell me, is there really any evidence? I doubt you know any more than CNN or even AP does. There's only one group that knows the answer and they've been detaining Hussein for 19 months.
    • badlogik, on 11/20/2007, -3/+4I just love how people that are the most susceptible to propaganda are the ones that most violently defend it. Eviscero, by by calling everyone on Digg an idiot and saying they suck terrorist dick makes you even more right! Good job! Oh, by the way, you may not have noticed, but you have a Digg account, too. Might want to get rid of it.
    • falseleftright, on 11/20/2007, -3/+3Then where is the trial you moron? If the evidence is so substantial, and is beyond reproach, then it should have been an easy trial and a feather in the occupying force's cap. See, we caught a bad guy and here is the proof. Instead, he languishes in jail without charges. Something doesn't add up...do you add?
      • tsotha, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1Actually, the whole point of the article is they're charging him. Did you read it?
        • diggzaphod, on 11/20/2007, -0/+0Why yes I did.
          But the point of everyone on digg (well most people) is that he was held for so long WITHOUT charges, on "evidence" that they say they have, but never produced, and continue not to produce... from the article
          "Hussein's lawyers will have to appear in court without being able to prepare their client's defense as the U.S. authorities refuse to say in advance what evidence they have."
          that is a right, that he is supposed to have, but doesn't. Isn't that what the war in Iraq is supposed to be about? to guarentee these rights?

          I am not saying he is innocent, I have no way of knowing, maybe he is working with terrorists. But that is not the point. The point is he is supposed to be innocent UNTIL proved guilty. if they have evidence then show it. 19 months is way to long to wait without any formal charges or evidence shown. And THAT is what is so scary.
    • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -2/+1This man's photos, of suffering Iraqis and damaged infrastructure, were an embarrassment to US occupiers. So they put him on ice, and told some lies about him. For "people" like our potty-mouthed eviscero here, lies are enough to justify the cruelty of an 18 month imprisonment without charge. He probably doesn't even need to be lied to.
      • tsotha, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1Eh, no. If you actually look at his work you'll see he took photos of terrorists in action, including masked guys standing over recently beheaded captives. There isn't a lot of suffering Iraqis - it's mostly just propaganda stuff.
  • alpha754293, on 11/20/2007, -12/+7U.S. isn't, never has been, and never will be a "land of the free". Might as well start getting that through your heads and your kids' heads and your grandkids' heads now before they start getting delirious and start thinking otherwise.
    • eviscero, on 11/20/2007, -3/+3If you can't see it, you don't know what it is.

      Sorry
    • mizenerd, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1Dugg down for being ignorant.
    • wakananda, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2This is cynical defeatism - very cowardly, and unworthy of people with spine or intelligence. The US still has it's unique, exceptional U.S. Constitution, which recognizes the *inalienable* rights of humanity. It does not "grant" these rights; it recognizes that they already exist, and are part of us - they are who we are as human beings. And it enshrines these preexisting rights in law. The U.S. Constitution is profoundly, and at it's very core, an "anti-government" document! It hogties government, dividing and opposing it's several branches against eachother, to prevent it from ever becoming so centralized and powerful that it is able to threaten, rob and oppress We, the People, who give it license to exist. The fact that our Federal Government has become an oppressive, cancerous tumor on the nation and is forcing us to work as slaves for it from January to April, to finance wars that bring vast profits to a tiny, secretive controlling elite - that does not change the greatness of America's soul: The Untited States Constitution. The fact that the blueprint has been cast aside and our Republic perverted into it's antithesis in a contemptible Federal Empire, should not cause us to despair. We, the People, of the United States of America ARE the Constitution. We may be silenced, or imprisoned, or hanged - but our rights are who we are, *inalienable.* They can never be taken away from us. America is the last, best hope of freedom for mankind because of this idea of inalienable rights. As long as we are in it, and we know WHO WE ARE, this remains the land of the free. Next rant: "Home of the Brave..."
  • tomis, on 11/20/2007, -11/+5I submit my vote for ***** America. Now will someone PLEASE come liberate this country from its oppressive government? k thx bi!
    • leberama, on 11/20/2007, -2/+8I submit my vote for "***** You". Read the article dumb ass.
    • thanakar, on 11/20/2007, -1/+3Do something about it YOURSELF. You and the many like you here on Digg keep wanting someone else to bail you out but don't have the intestinal fortitude to take actions into your own hands to do something. All ya'll do is come here on Digg and post about how fed up you are with the current administration. Nothing but a bunch of blowhards. Get your ass out on the streets and actively protest instead of hiding in your room all day staring at your computer screen.
      • tomis, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Get real! It's America! We don't have to do any work! We'll just outsource the revolution to poor children in 3rd world countries!
  • leberama, on 11/20/2007, -10/+15Read the article you douche bags! You all read the tag line and start commenting.

    From the article-

    "Hussein was detained April 12, 2006 after marines entered his house in Ramadi to establish a temporary observation post and found bomb-making materials, insurgent propaganda and a surveillance photograph of a US military installation."

    That is what they are trying him for. Digging down.
    • badlogik, on 11/20/2007, -7/+5... that they are not showing anyone at all. I thought you said you read the article...
    • falseleftright, on 11/20/2007, -5/+7So with all that evidence it takes a year and a half to bring him to trial? Sorry man, that doesn't wash, even given the inefficiency of any govt operation. Digging down.
    • banq59, on 11/20/2007, -5/+1Sorry mate. He is entitled to a speedy trial. That is his right as is every other American citizens right. The fact that he has not even been charged yet detained against his will is a Constitutional violation. If his lawyer is worth his salt this case will be thrown out on Constitutional grounds unless citing the Constitution makes him a "terrorist." Will you people wake up before it is too late?
    • thanakar, on 11/20/2007, -2/+5Careful leberama, spreading truth on Digg is a very dangerous thing to do
    • UnstableMind, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2Maybe he was writing a storey for the AP on what Iraqi propaganda is/was and the article was going to include a picture of a military base. He may have had fuel for a lantern. Do you not consider these other possiblities? Where were his weapons? Doesn't sound like he was going to do any "damage" to me?
  • razorsharpwit, on 11/20/2007, -6/+4I can't believe the US is using the "new ***** has come to light" excuse-
    "they were Nazis, dude?"
  • jct821, on 11/20/2007, -6/+2This is not at all doubleplusgood.
    • isaactwito, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2Hey look! Someone FINALLY read 1984. We're all glad you got on the bandwagon, because all the empty seats from people who don't care anymore need to be filled.
    • adooga, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1That's "doubleplusUNgood"
  • tcpip4lyfe, on 11/20/2007, -5/+3Give me my Ipod and cell phone so I can just tune this out.
  • zyl0x, on 11/20/2007, -12/+6Hahahahaha... oh US. You're such a joke of a country now.
    • thanakar, on 11/20/2007, -1/+5And what country are you from? let us know so we can post dirt about your own country as well.
    • thaker, on 11/20/2007, -1/+6He's from our neglected impoverished 51st state.
  • RevEng, on 11/20/2007, -3/+17There are a lot of people commenting who seem to think that the article, or the similar one from CNN, *prove* that this man was a terrorist. They then decry the others who protest for siding with the terrorists.

    Take a minute and consider what the rules are in the legal system. If allegations are made and sufficient evidence is presented to show a likelihood of having commited a crime, a person is arrested, questioned (with legal counsel present), and detained. After a reasonable period of time, during which both the prosecution and the defense gather and share evidence, a trial starts, where both sides present their case and evidence to a jury of their peers, who then make the decision.

    Now, here's why people are protesting Hussein's detention. First, the allegations against him don't make sense. They say he was working in cooperation with the insurgents, giving him the information he needed to get to the battles quickly and take pictures of the explosions when they happened. If he was working with the insurgents, wouldn't he be giving them information, or giving us misinformation? With these allegations, it seems he's not helping the insurgents at all; why would they be helping him? It doesn't add up.

    Secondly, the military isn't providing any evidence to the defense. The pictures he has been taking are almost exclusively of the aftermath. This doesn't match the allegations against him. They've made additional allegations that they found bomb parts at his home. So where are these bomb parts? Where are the pictures of his home filled with them? This is rather damning evidence, if it exists, so why aren't they showing it to the defense?

    Lastly, and most importantly, with such serious allegations and such damning evidence, why haven't they charged him? He's been imprisoned for 19 months and no trial has been announced. In fact, the charges against him aren't even clear, as the allegations have been evolving over time. Even in the light of new evidence, the original allegations shouldn't become invalid, they should just be compounded.

    This isn't a matter of bleeding heart liberalism, nor is it a matter of war-time security. This is a breach of due process, clear as law. This is a US citizen of foreign decent, working for the US in a foreign country, detained indefinitely without charge or trial. Somehow it's okay for some people, as long as this is done to the terrorists. But who is a terrorist? Until he is charged, given a fair trial, and convicted by a jury of his peers, this man is still innocent and deserves all of the rights and freedoms that the Constitution guarantees. Simply being in Iraq and looking the same as the other Iraqis doesn't make you a terrorist, any more than allegations from a self-interested party make you a terrorist.

    Innocent or guilty, this man deserves an expedient, fair trial. This is what people are protesting about.
    • thanakar, on 11/20/2007, -0/+6You are referencing the wrong legal system. What are the rules of the IRAQI legal system for detaining a person without presenting the evidence in an IRAQI court of law.
    • Phrostee, on 11/20/2007, -0/+3thanakar makes an excellent point, the US is trying to have him tried in an IRAQI court, as someone who has seen this in action, let me tell you it can take forever to get to trial. Look at the Saddam trial debacle. Every detainee that the US military takes in Iraq is tried in an Iraqi court, regardless of nationality. I cant speak for the CIA, but I can tell you thats what the military does. And as for bombmaking parts, if he was detained by a military patrol then they had good reason, it was more than just a cell phone. A good example would be a bag full of several cell phones or garage dorr openers that have the backs cut off and are hardwired to a fuse. Also, almost every military patrol carries a kit that can be used to test a suspects hands for explosive residue. Say whatever you want about the administration, but the military tries their hardest to do things the right way. Im not accusing anyone of "siding with the terrorists", Im just stating the facts as I have seen them.
    • edrift101, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1Bring him back to the states and have him tried in the same court as the Blackwater employees. Oh wait...
  • skinturtle, on 11/20/2007, -8/+6The handling of Iraq is a trial run and practice ground for what they will do in the US. The citizens (or "consumers" as they like it said) are like a frog sitting in water that's slowly coming to a boil. Soon the heat will be on you but by then you be too incapacitated to do much about it.

    The reason people won;t fight back is because they are too worried about their material possessions, luxury and gadgets...their consumer life styles.

    The disheartening past is that whether you like it or not..you will be forced to fight..but it will be for a lost cause by then...if you don;t stand up now. People can fight back by cutting the spending down that feeds the corporate monster.
    • Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2007, -2/+2Getting dug down, but I tend to agree with you.
  • wilcocola, on 11/20/2007, -3/+6If they felt it was immoral to try the blackwater buttholes in an iraqi court, why is it okay to try this guy there?
    • Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2007, -1/+1Silly rabbit - this guy will not make it to trial.
    • Phrostee, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1because blackwater was working as a contractor for the state department, if blackwater can be tried in an iraqi court then the entire US military can be tried in an Iraqi court, its called setting a precedence.
  • hunnybee38, on 11/20/2007, -11/+5Just another reason to VOTE RON PAUL! Google him!
    • isaactwito, on 11/20/2007, -1/+4If you want a ***** government.

      digg me down if you must, you're all wasting your votes
      • hunnybee38, on 11/29/2007, -0/+0Dug... sad to see so much ignorance! Get off the main stream media and go search for the real polls! I'm NOT wasting a vote, I'm trying to guarantee a future for my children and grandchildren... and yours too.
  • cslawren, on 11/20/2007, -8/+2you know, i read something like this, and every day, i am less and less proud to be an american. that might sound like a horrible thing to say, but i'm ashamed that our country is doing the things it does, all under the guise of this "war on terror".
    • ElAssoWipo, on 11/20/2007, -4/+1What are you doing about it?

      That's why you should be ashamed. You all knew Bush was a war mongerer when you re-elected him.
      • NEWNHLISLAME, on 11/20/2007, -3/+2How do you know how he voted? a Little ignorant, but hold on. Bush Rigged the Election with help from the other Bush Family members involved in other States. Jeb Bush in Florida was responsible for issuing a recount that some how came out in Georges favor as well Some States Florida included had changed voting regulations that year wich would exclude a major part of its black and Hispanic voters, Aswell Fox Noise was airing different Information than the other networks, which showed Gore as the President. I'm a Canadian and a few of us have look back into the archived news to see the path George and His previous Family members were involved with this whole thing. This is the evidence the looks in there eyes during a press conference where they hide and deflect the hard questions , the questions that incriminate them. The Question is what are you as American Citizens doing about it? Look no further than A continent like South America and the CIA's Involvement in its political affairs. The type of tactics they employ are despicable. The places for people to be housed are already built. Razor Wire Installed. There aren't very many more Steps for George and his cult to fulfill there insane destructive practice.
        • ElAssoWipo, on 11/20/2007, -3/+2And what did they do about it?

          See that's my point. Everybody complains about Bush, but nobody is doing anything about it. The man is guilty of constitutional crimes, crimes of war and crimes against humanity.

          The protests about the Writer's strike were bigger than the anti-war protests or the unexistant impeachment protests.

          It is the citizens responsibility to police the government. Americans failed miserably because this presidency will be held as a precedent: The American government can commit atrocities, lie to it's own people, infringe the constitution, rigg elections, control the media, lie to congress, lie to the American public, practice torture, practice crimes of war against it's prisoners of war, and a quarter of all homeless people in America are veterans. Nobody is being punished for this. Even the opposition is blocking impeachment initiatives.

          And Americans did nothing to prevent it. Did nothing to fight against it. To blame the government is completely ludicrous. They are the ones who fund the government, they are the ones who elected the government. And no, the fact that a minority didn't doesn't matter.

          Who is paying for Saddam's actions? Saddam or Iraqi citizens? Americans will eventually pay for the actions of their representatives. One way or another. Maybe then they will wake up.
    • Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2007, -3/+1Then do something about it. Fight back for your country, before the rest of the world decides it has no choice.
  • akatsuki, on 11/20/2007, -4/+2"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety..."

    ... oh, ***** it, let's have a drink and forget the whole damn thing.
    • NEWNHLISLAME, on 11/20/2007, -3/+2lol to funny, Give up your liberties and we will keep you safe hahahahahahah
    • ripsterman, on 11/21/2007, -0/+0Agree 100% with bomb making materials not an essential liberty. I totally disagree with having a drink and forgetting about it.....apathy is the number 1 cause of global death wake up!
  • NEWNHLISLAME, on 11/20/2007, -5/+4If someone doesn't impeach your your ***** president soon he will be at war with Iran, then more things like this will continue to happen in the name of freedom? ffs
    • ripsterman, on 11/21/2007, -1/+0Unfortunately that is inevitable regardless....the goal or the government or N.W.O. is to set up in the middle east, divide and conquer...in this instance divide and take over Saudi oil...eventually. Money and Power is relevant in all war.
    • ripsterman, on 11/21/2007, -0/+0Impeach? As I have said before what the ***** good is that going to do...we are months away from a new Prez anyway...damage done may as well face it and try to fix it.
  • joey368, on 11/20/2007, -4/+1I thought this was gonna be about arresting people who photograph Hilton chick.
  • banq59, on 11/20/2007, -4/+4It is scary to think that there are people out there who really believe that the US government should have to power to detain, without charges, anyone they wish because they believe them to be tied to "terrorists." You people have no understanding of what America is and for what it stands. By agreeing with this oppressive fascist thinking you are the biggest group of terrorists this country has ever seen. YOU are anti-America and are spitting in the face of the great people who fought for a nation founded on the ideas of freedom and equality!
  • onefinalstep, on 11/20/2007, -4/+9Are you all brain dead? So you believe that the U.S. military is holding this guy because he is taking bad pictures of them? Do you have any idea how many news agencies and journalists are in Iraq at the moment? If one were to think critically for a second, one might figure that if the military were really trying to stop journalists from reporting objectively there would be a lot more arrests like this going on, maybe even some where the reporters aren't helping to kill U.S. troops with bombs. This guy apparently just happened to be the first 'reporter' at the scene of numerous ied attacks, and the military found weapons and bomb parts in his home. Give me a break ... let