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- BelXul, on 10/10/2007, -0/+93What is clear from the original video is that at least one of the men, momentarily, was demasked before rushing for the police. I suggest to anyone in the area try to match him up with someone as soon as possible, whether they be an undercover cop, or a protester lacking common sense. I say this because I think it is in the best interests of everyone to find out conclusively who these three people truly represent.
- dashmaps, on 10/10/2007, -1/+77Here's a direct link to the video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow
- The_Wallbanger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+64From yesterday's thread - The photos of "protesters" wearing the same boots as the cops.
http://www.cupe.ca/gallery/montebello-monday/Montebello_20_ao_t_050 - scorchedearth, on 10/10/2007, -5/+62This is how the game is played people. Discrediting movements by painting them as being violent. Just because they're the police doesn't mean that they aren't trained liars and instigators.
The police are as corrupt as the government if not more. - Rooster99, on 10/10/2007, -5/+60Ive got a brother who has done riot training. If they were real protestors, they would have been taken down as soon as he picked up the rock. Notice how NONE of the police really cared until they had to look like they had to do something. Then they pick them up and take them away. If they had been real protesters, the cops would have dragged those 2 guys over the line and beat the crap out of them. It was totally staged. Why would they bolt straight into the police line as soon as they were unmasked?
- VeryBoredNow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+48I mean the guy is standing there with a rock ready to throw NEXT to the riot police, they finally get called out as cops and 'get arrested' without any record of their arrest.
It is obvious some department had some extra rubber bullets they wanted to get rid off. - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -1/+48At like 1:54ish you can see one of the "protesters" in the back chatting with one of the police.
They also seem to be wearing some standard police gear. - thefirelane, on 10/10/2007, -1/+40Ok, I’ll bite…
I don’t even know much about this, but if you read the articles:
1) They talk with the police
2) They are then arrested after being ‘exposed’ as cops
3) There is no record of them being arrested
4) They all wear the same black bandanna (which would seem to indicate it being used as an identifier to the real police, ie. don’t shoot them)
5) They are the only ones who want to incite violence, and approach the police line *with rocks* and are calmly let in.
6) They are all wearing the same boots as the police - 10nacity, on 10/10/2007, -5/+42Since this news hit the front page again, let me copy my comment from the thread before.
Copied from the other thread:
[I apologize if my comment sounds irrelevant, but I hope you won't mind.
When any form of protest hits the streets in Burma (be it non-violent and pro-democracy or be it any other form
of activism against the military government in power), police and military intelligence agents dress as civilians
and beat up the demonstrators. They claim to be local people who do not want trouble in their area and simply
get away with whatever violence they commit, unknown, unseen, and unheard by the rest of the world. Thanks
to the military's meticulous media control, very little news ever leave Burma's borders. Last week, the
government raised the already soaring gas prices almost 5 times, forcing every other market price to skyrocket
and they did so without warning in advance. Since then, the starving poor has risen once again, after being meek
and submissive for more than 19 years under the merciless guns. My people are now demonstrating in non-violent
protest and are being brutalized by the posers in aforementioned ways. News and updates can be read at
http://www.mizzima.com
, one of the only sites that publish Burmese news in English. Again, sorry for the comment abuse. May they eat full if they
can't go free yet! I didn't digg it seperately because this is a safer bet to be heard. Those detestable scoundrels should be
denounced if not overthrown immediately for their shameless and blatantly daring actions.] - hiphoc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+30RCMP says they they arrested 4 people, but the 4 people they arrested were not those men. But the video shows the masked me getting arrested. Oh, man ***** busted. This is done at so many peaceful protest to give the cops just cause to break things up and have the media have pics of cops getting pelted with rocks. So when the cops start kicking ass everyone at home on their asses thinks the protesters deserve it. This is been going on since the 60's.
Things have changed pigs, we have the web now. ***** up and the world will see. What will it take to have the police start obeying the laws they supposedly are there to enforce. - pbaehr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28Protonz...you are in clear violation of the first rule of fight club. I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to leave.
- SickMonkey, on 10/10/2007, -4/+30Few will believe this but the US government regularly sent in paid undercover counter-protesters to harass anti Iraq War protesters in NYC a few years ago. What is much better documented though is that almost all of the so-called "protesters" who showed up in Florida in 2000 to protest the Bush-Gore recount were payed GOP staffers. Here's a picture to prove it: http://www.oldamericancentury.org/preppy_riot.jpg
There are other pictures I've seen with John Bolton shaking his protester fist in anger too. - Juano11, on 10/10/2007, -7/+30If these protesters hadn't taken up the cute little habit of wearing masks, then things like this wouldn't be nearly as easy to pull off. Part of honorable civil disobedience is being willing to live with the consequences of your actions. If you believe in something, show your face and state your point.
- weeeezzll, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Those idiots wore their riot gear boots while under cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbgnyUCC7M&NR=1
- Smoove, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25Remember, folks: if anyone in your organization starts advocating violence and illegal acts persistently, BEAT THE LIVING ***** OUT OF HIM, and then report him to the police. It will help you stay out of prison--and nine times out of ten, it's a golden opportunity to beat the living ***** out of a cop and get away with it.
- suxmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -15/+36They're Canadian cops. Obviously they are just bored, because the the violence is all south of the border.
- CornStarch, on 10/10/2007, -11/+31Come on diggers, let's demand a video section so this kind of thing never goes unseen!
- Aggaman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20He's violated the second rule as well.
- Deodrus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23Here is PROOF that they were COPS. The Quebec Police Force has ADMITTED it.
The chief says "the undercover cops were NOT trying to incite violence".
O RLY? (O_O)
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070822/montebello_cops_070822/20070822?hub=TopStories - oddmanout, on 10/10/2007, -1/+207) they were allowed to keep their masks, hats, sunglasses, etc on after being arrested
8) they were treated very nicely (first time I've ever seen a rioter be politely laid to the ground and cuffed)
9) they seemed very willing to be arrested, when the protesters "found them out" they went straight to the cops to be "arrested." There was no hesitation, all 3 of them "lined up" to go through the line... it looks almost...hmmm... PLANNED - greenvortex, on 10/10/2007, -7/+25Anyone posting here who doubts that these goons are cops is either a deliberate misinformist, or they did not watch the video or look at the pics. It could not be more ***** obvious.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17The police ARE the government.
- Upas, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19I'm pretty sure this is a dupe, but i guess its worth seeing again.
- christastic45, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Oh it is... Im from quebec, and this is starting to make quite a scandal, dont let this die!!!
- BESTenemy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16So all 3 protesters just happened to be wearing the same boots? Point me to any other protester that had the same kind. There is video evidence, there is a high-res photograph to prove that the provocateurs were cops. There is no evidence against it. Also, how many times have you seen 3 people get pulled into a police line like that, without hesitation? You know what a purpose of wearing a mask is? Not to be identified in order not to get caught. Those people normally hide behind the crowd, throw objects at the police and disperse as soon as there is retaliation. The treo in the video was more afraid of the protesters and the video cameras than of the police line.
- dondara, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18The cops, just another gang. That is a really cheap tactic BTW. I was going to comment on those who don't want to believe the cops would do that but I guess I am just as quick to believe they would. I think that video is pretty good proof though. I've seen a few riots and I have never seen the pigs _NOT_ over react and brutalize the protesters. The fact that NYPD puts tape over badge numbers just proves they know they are wrong. After all, if you have nothing to hide etc. I'd bet that SOP at other depts as well.
- weeeezzll, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20No they would just say they were working undercover and you would probably get a harsher sentence. As we all know, assaulting a cop is "worse" than assaulting a citizen...
- brutalentropy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Clearly you've never been to a protest.
- loconet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Canada, what a wonderful country. We are so friendly, the government has to fake violence to justify its security budget. And when these fake protesters were caught, they put down their rocks and went to get hand cuffed as they were told.
- Rooster99, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Just so you know where I got my info on, my brother has been doing riot training, and has been telling me what will happen to me if I decide to protest. Basically, if I appear to be inciting violence (like the guy with the rock), then the police should disarm and detain me ASAP before I actually start a riot. The cops on the front line, are trained to grab an offender, and literally drag them over the top of the line, and let the waiting 2nd line of defense deal with them. The guy in the video had a dangerous weapon, and was making it clear that he wanted to use it. He should have been dealt with straight away in an ideal situation.
- brutalentropy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15What is it with you police apologists always talking about how anyone who disagrees with you deserves to get a beat down?
Do you need to see a therapist? - neoform, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14I love naysayers who think everything's a crazy conspiracy even when the evidence is clear as day.
- WarBicycle, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15It is not unusual for the police to infiltrate protesters; they do this so that they can easily identify who is leading the violent aspect of the protest so that they can be quickly arrested. The police made a tactical error by sending in two individuals who looked like cops, usually they will send in someone who is overweight and short or a young skinny rookie.
- reeder, on 10/10/2007, -8/+20You, sir, are quite possibly THE dumbest man on the planet.
- Malarie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14I am a Quebecer, living near Montebello. I have to admit that i would not be surprised if this was true. Harper is Bush Junior. What i really like in the video is that my fellow quebecers didn't riot. They all aligned to protect the cops from these provocateurs.
- magni, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Wasn't that "protest" outside a ballot counting room or something? I remember that. I'm not sure but I thought they were just supposed to be angry republican citizens off the street but they turned out to be staffers. They looked all embarrassed and uncomfortable chanting. It was so forced. Blatant insincerity.
- havesometea, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Cops are nothing but government thugs. Grow up...Officer Friendly wasn't real.
- Protonz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15but.... what if my organization is fight club?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12"You tin foil hat people have no critical thinking. Why would police arrest their own? "
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You government sheeple have no independent thinking. Just because their motive isn't obvious *TO YOU* doesn't mean there isn't one. You are just too stupid to grasp the principles of psychological warfare and you assume the government is your friend because it told you it was. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Police are required by law to give their name and badge number if a civilian requests it. By covering their badges, they are breaking the law. Simple.
- Deodrus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Hold up. I re-read the link I posted, and there is no mention of the admission of the Quebec Police Force! WTF? Just yesterday I remember reading the line saying "the chief says these undercover cops won't be winning any oscars for their bad acting". Now mention of it is gone.
ANYONE have a copy of the story I'm referring to? - Shakermaker, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Jumping to conclusions? It's been proven they were cops!
- sinrtb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11What is your explanation then?
- cheesehead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Exactly the Quebec police should not be allowed to get away with "no comment". Complaints must be filed and an OPEN investigation must take place.
- VeryBoredNow, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16you are blind
- MarkOfTheDead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I'm not exposed to speak any such information to you, nor would I even if I had said information you want, at this juncture be able.
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to leave. - jaxcs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9They are wearing the same shoes
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070822/montebello_cops_070822/20070822?hub=TopStories - ultimatesn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9notice the green spraypaint they have on them?
- gotamd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9There was a group of three of them who were the only ones trying to incite violence. They also came wearing shin protection and the exact same boots. Those boots were also the same boots worn by the riot police. Now even though they were arrested (see the zip-tie handcuffing?) there is no record of it and no charges were pressed. There's also the manner in which they essentially backed into the police line instead of attacking it, even though the one guy had a rock in his hand and they were obviously trying to incite other people to violence. All that's missing is an admission by the police force or one of the provacateurs.
- hammerpants, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10gotard, he's being sarcastc.
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