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- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -44/+169What a douchebag
- GoatRoper, on 05/18/2008, -78/+196Whether you agree with a religion or not, you don't go around shooting holes and writing "***** yeah" across that religion's holy book...especially when you are supposed to be "winning the hearts and minds" of a certain people. Pics of what remained of the Quran; http://www.webtrendsguy.com/images/shotquran.jpg
Original story source; http://heyetnet.org/en/content/view/2869/1/ - angusm, on 05/18/2008, -13/+111It's always easy to spot the guy who missed the "cultural sensitivity training" session before he shipped out.
- mediablitz, on 05/18/2008, -38/+131Apologists with the "but what about when they" argument, missing the point, in 3...2...1...
- internetcoward, on 05/18/2008, -19/+92They put the US in Jesus.
- blackjack75, on 05/18/2008, -19/+90In all fairness this is just one idiot. Nothing like Abu Grahib where clearly the perpetrators had orders from above.
From the soldier's mouth: "I sincerely hope that my actions have not diminished the partnership that our two nations have developed together (....)".
I am pretty sure his actions will indeed maintaint that "partnership" in a beautiful state. It's bound to continue to work as well as it did in the past five years. - whathappened, on 05/18/2008, -22/+93Muslims will not touch their Qurans without washing their hands, and they keep it on high shelves in their homes and mosques to avoid facing their backs towards it.They have an unbelievable amount of respect for it. Even when a Quran is old and wearing away beyond recognition as a Quran - it cannot be tossed out, it has to be buried or burnt. The point im trying to make is not that they have weird traditions but so that you can see why they are so outraged when a Quran is desecrated - they treat every printed Quran like the original book.
And when i say "they" i mean all muslims including myself. - elipabst, on 05/18/2008, -8/+70The problem is that crap like this is bad PR and leads to US soldiers getting killed in reprisal attacks. Look at those stupid jackasses who raped that Iraqi girl in Mahmoudiya. A few weeks later 5 US soldiers got killed in an ambush in the same area and an additional 3 were captured and tortured to death in revenge. Dumb ***** like this cost people their lives. If you want to shoot up Korans, then wait till you get back to the US.
- Zippo, on 05/18/2008, -33/+90And people wonder why they hate Americans so much...
- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -13/+67i really think basic competency ( beyond high school "education") and *thorough* sanity tests should be given to all enlisted people. ( cops too, but i guess thats pushing it )
- fredJdukes, on 05/18/2008, -9/+57Wouldn't it be great if they just went around shooting and blowing up each others' funny books instead of one another?
- InfodivaMLIS, on 05/18/2008, -30/+76Sad! Loss of Respect is nothing to cheer about. I fear for my young . I fear for those who still have hearts and minds.
- leexy, on 05/18/2008, -6/+50"Don't you think Iraqis will be outraged at this atrocity? "
Iraqis? Try a billion and a half Muslims? - mr100percent, on 05/18/2008, -28/+66What a freaking idiot. Don't you think Iraqis will be outraged at this atrocity?
"I come before you here seeking your forgiveness," [Commander of US forces in Baghdad] Hammond said to tribal leaders and others at the apology ceremony. "In the most humble manner I look in your eyes today and I say please forgive me and my soldiers." Another military official kissed a Quran and presented is as "a humble gift" to the tribal leaders.
He's doing this because obviously he knows that this is going to get more troops killed. The insurgents are telling the Iraqi public that they're being attacked for being Muslim, and you have a soldier proving this for them.
If they really wanted to nip this in the bud, they would announce a harsher disciplinary action for the soldier and a warning against anyone not to do that in the future. To Iraqis this is worse than peeing on a flag. - subterfuge, on 05/18/2008, -10/+46then there is no option besides execution . . . of the file recovery program!
- AlanFang, on 05/18/2008, -10/+43Shooting books is bad, but shooting people is even worse.
- snypa, on 05/18/2008, -8/+40what a ***** comparison. you cant compare the intentions between deleting a file of a religious article and shooting up a religious book. yes it is "a book" but these are people shooting a religious book for target practice who get sent out to a muslim country and expect to have won their hearts and minds?
- elamr, on 05/18/2008, -32/+62I got no problem with it as long as the bible is right there with it at the 50m mark.
- mark076h, on 05/18/2008, -15/+43why can't they hide this stuff from the media like all the other stuff going on over there?
- gsadamb, on 05/18/2008, -13/+40To everyone saying things like, "Good, the Koran sucks anyway," or whatever, you're completely missing the point. The point is not about whether or not Islam is valid. Instead, it's that this is an American soldier, who is stationed in Iraq, and is charged with trying to ensure the safety of his fellow soldiers while trying to keep the peace in Iraq. He did something that puts fellow American soldiers at risk and damages (even more) our standing among Iraqi locals, whose hearts and minds we have to win over if we want any progress in Iraq.
- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -20/+45-South Park Jesse Jackson bends over- "Yes, that's right... apologize.
- spyd3rweb, on 05/18/2008, -8/+33His shot grouping isn't very good, I hope he was shooting from really far away.
- PovRayMan, on 05/18/2008, -9/+32We are winning their hearts and minds.
Two to the heart and one to the mind. - morgino, on 05/18/2008, -36/+58I want one...just ONE cartoon to make fun of the Koran and Allah like they continually make fun of Jesus. The media are ***** pussies when it comes to this. South Park tried and got shot down, we bow down to these fools. That would be the first thing on my list to do if I had some pull in that industry
- blackjack75, on 05/18/2008, -7/+28Don't christians have the same behavior? Maybe they wouldn't wash their hands but even I – a convicted atheist – would feel weird throwing a Bible in the trash. And my grandmother would surely have called an exorcist if I started shooting at it.
- leexy, on 05/18/2008, -5/+26Sorry mate. I'm Muslim and I sure as hell never voted for the commander-in-chief of the 9/11 crew nor did they ever get a penny from me. In fact, I can assure you that the first such criminal who crosses my path would get a swift ass-whooping from yours truly, and that I'll do everything in my power to bring him/her to justice.
Meanwhile, you sir are paying for that douchebag's bullets. - Hefelumpman, on 05/18/2008, -2/+23I've never seen any examples of Islam making fun of Jesus...
Mainly because Jesus is a highly respected prophet in Islam. - mithrasinvictus, on 05/18/2008, -4/+24How about not doing ***** like this out of respect instead of out of fear for reprisals?
The official story is still that the occupation is meant to help the iraqi's , spitting on their religion is not helping. - footodors, on 05/18/2008, -0/+20anyone read this entire post?
- snypa, on 05/18/2008, -3/+22.... you have the US trying to convince the people that they are there to "liberate" and free them, while they use a religious book to which most this nation holds respect and care toward as target practice, wtf is that.
all the while the insurgents are trying to convince the people that the "invaders" are there to attack Islam and their Islamic beliefs. the soldiers in point are hardly defying this claim are they. - Disregard, on 05/18/2008, -47/+66You see no problem with charging people for crimes against a ***** BOOK?
- gettophilosophr, on 05/18/2008, -4/+23Yeah...personally, I'm a Christian, and I think South Park is ***** hilarious. Even when it makes fun of Christianity. It's ok, I'm allowed to laugh at myself.
I think my favorite was the Simpsons episode with the ball of caramel corn/cotton candy/some other carnival candy that Flanders' kids get stuck to...."I was saving sugar for my wedding night! *cries*"
It was hilarious. It was completely mocking my religion and beliefs. Did I mention it was hilarious? I think this soldier was an idiot for doing this in Iraq of all places, but I don't think that's a criminal activity so much as horribly insensitive and stupid. - cipher64, on 05/18/2008, -7/+26I'm a Muslim and I hold the Quran dear, I can understand for anyone who does not believe in Islam it is just another book and for some it is even an evil book. But, come on if you claim to be a civilized nation show some respect for others beliefs.
- Pogue_Mahone, on 05/18/2008, -3/+20The thing is, nobody cares whether you think it's garbage are not. There are millions of Muslims who worship it, and in the world-policial scope that outweighs what you and this dumb solider think is "wise" by a large margin.
- kund57, on 05/18/2008, -15/+31Ok, I think what he did was pretty stupid. But let's think about things here. Every time someone insults Islam, the whole Islamic community flips a major *****. But then when people insult Christianity, which many people do, most people laugh it off or forget about it. Why is it so shunned upon to insult Islam but it's almost perfectly safe to insult
Christianity? In this case it's was just a book. People use the Bible to roll joints for cryin' out loud. - mypetridish, on 05/18/2008, -8/+24exactly. but this doesnt only concern the Iraqis. as a Muslim I feel insulted for the soldiers lack of respect for our holy book.
i cant help to think that the soldiers will be on the receiving end of the upcoming backlash from the community in Iraq - inactive, on 05/18/2008, -7/+22I apologize for everyone above me.
- mediablitz, on 05/18/2008, -4/+19"From the soldier's mouth: "I sincerely hope that my actions have not diminished the partnership that our two nations have developed together (....)"."
From the soldiers mouth, by way of the Pentagon PR department
FTFY - TheThirdLevel, on 05/18/2008, -23/+38I'll bet you a hundred bucks that if someone shot up a Bible, people would make a huge deal over it.
- Flummoxer, on 05/18/2008, -0/+14Probably Abraham, the father of many nations.
- archiesteel, on 05/18/2008, -0/+14This is not about you. We eat beef, and don't find the animal to be particularly holy. Does that mean it's okay to go to India and shoot a cow on the street?
There's a little thing called "respect for other cultures". Perhaps you should look into it. - Comatose51, on 05/18/2008, -3/+17Imagine if someone burned our flag or took a ***** on it.... Some of us would, and justifiably, be pretty pissed. I'm all for freedom of expression and all but going out of your way to be an ***** to other people is just stupid.
- vondrak, on 05/18/2008, -7/+21I see what you're saying there, but if I bought the house from you then demolished it there wouldn't be a problem.
- Yazilliclick, on 05/18/2008, -0/+14Soldiers are not citizens. Soldiers have a mission and they're not supposed to be jeopordizing and hurting that mission out of sheer stupidity.
- fredJdukes, on 05/18/2008, -0/+14"You don't see Christians wanting to kill people every time a Jesus joke is made."
Well... - Disregard, on 05/18/2008, -3/+16You're deliberately confusing vandalism/theft, ie. actual real crimes, with the situation here - charges of blasphemy against an inanimate object.
- swrostmore, on 05/18/2008, -3/+16He's not being charged for crimes against a book, he's being charged for hurting the war effort. I guarantee the US Army doesn't give a ***** what happens to the Q'oran (just look at what they did to Q'orans at Abu Ghraib), but when a soldier's actions damage the war effort and put his fellow soldiers at risk from retaliation, then he needs to be prosecuted.
- griffinjam, on 05/18/2008, -5/+18Even that would be different though. We are pretty cavalier with bibles here in the U.S. People hand them out at train stations, at schools, outside supermarkets. Most of these people know the bibles they hand out will just get trashed and accept this. In a way that sets the bar for how much respect we show the bible in our society. So the idea of shooting one...well, it's not that outrageous.
Muslims show their holy book a great deal of respect. They wouldn't give one to someone they felt would probably just trash it.
Personally, I don't think it's ok for any holy book to be used as target practice. It shows a complete lack of respect for other people and their beliefs and is totally unnecessary. -
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