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- Dumbledorito, on 12/30/2007, -8/+172Your Digging of this article has been noted and forwarded to the proper authorities. Your employer may be contacting you. Please make no sudden movements until next Wednesday.
- AbortionsTickle, on 12/30/2007, -14/+160Ugh. This is almost disgusting. How could our leaders do this? How could they turn Our America into what it is today?
- Napoleone, on 12/30/2007, -2/+107It is true that we're headed down a perilous path. However, I take heart in the fact that freedom has never had a better friend than the Internet and the cell phone. At no time in history has information been so easily available to the masses.
Protect the Internet as it currently exists, and we'll have a better chance at defeating the fascists within our society. - ahughes, on 12/30/2007, -4/+102Most disturbing to me is how Canada's ranking is "decaying".
- Rotzooi, on 12/30/2007, -5/+83With still 30% of the population behind them, and the other 70% apathetic, the answer would be: very easily, thank you very much.
- ElBoss, on 12/30/2007, -7/+52When they came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
~Pastor Martin Niemöller - ESTEBEVERDE, on 12/30/2007, -6/+49It's not our leaders.
It's US. - chadseld, on 12/30/2007, -1/+42The question is not "How could our leaders be so blind to the dangers of a surveillance society?" The dangers only affect the 'people' and our leaders no longer consider themselves to be part of that group.
- fractalman, on 12/30/2007, -6/+42Americans have become sheep. Sheep are happy to follow their shepherd. Time to stop being sheep and do something. Replace congress. Don't vote a single congressman back into office this year. Replace them all.
- GhostyBoy, on 12/30/2007, -8/+40In 5, 4, 3, 2....
Left-wing hippie libtard moon-bat conspiracy theorist tin-foil hat wearin' anti-Americans!!!
There, I saved you trolls the trouble. Now they don't have to endlessly repeat themselves with ad hominem attacks and chop-logic. - krnldmp, on 12/30/2007, -0/+30Since Americans started referring to politicians as "Leaders".
- pimpofpixels, on 12/30/2007, -2/+31Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Our nation was founded be people skeptical of government who designed a system with safeguards to limit the power. Unfortunately, the more power you have the more you can erode those safeguards, and the more dated those safeguards become the less their specifics can shield us from the conditions of modern life.
I'm POSITIVE that if the constitution were written today there'd be provisions to shield us from our government spying on our email, telephones, and Internet activity.
"Those who would give up liberty for security will get neither." - baalzebub, on 12/30/2007, -0/+27i would trust a two-way radio (Ham) more than i would trust a cellphone, AT&T controls most of those cellphone towers without which your cellphone would be a brick, and i am sure AT&T are in collusion with the US Government and monitors it all and would pull the plug on anyone they want to...
- imaref, on 12/30/2007, -1/+28We're a surveillance society because we allow it...
- fyngyrz, on 12/31/2007, -2/+27I don't want the America described in the constitution to fall over. At all. The thing we have today, I'm not so certain of. Today, we are a classed society; commit a crime, and you are underclass forever. Corporations and rich people are "power citizens." Your average individual has no input. Become a politician, and you will be wined, dined, junketed, provided with sexual favors, and offered income guarantees in your old age. On the other hand, you can make laws that are essentially arbitrary, while packing them with "earmarks" for your constituents, given only that you vote for the laws other politicians create. Liberty has been eroded to a degree I never thought I would see in my lifetime (I'm 51) and while I'll grant you that technology and science have lived up to the promises vaguely sensed in the 1960's, they have also been instrumental in bringing about massively accelerated degradation of privacy.
The reasons I can find for not wanting this society to fall over are all related to the peace of the day - I don't particularly want to see riots, starvation, and the loss of courtesy and respect in daily life that seem to me to be likely side effects of a real revolution.
But the political system is broken, the voters are apathetic at the least or brainwashed at the worst, and most days, the news is worse, not better. - williamdyer, on 12/30/2007, -1/+24We are living in a time similar to the end of the Soviet Empire. Actively degrade the system if you can. If you can't, check out and burden it so it collapses. If you can't be the wrench in the gears, be the sand.
- AROZ, on 12/30/2007, -2/+24I hope we don't get sucked into that black hole.
- williamdyer, on 12/31/2007, -2/+24The government is not America. The government has become a cancer on America.
- Derelict267, on 12/30/2007, -19/+40How do we equate with the UK in terms of surveillance? We don't have CCTV cameras on every block...
- Derelict267, on 12/30/2007, -0/+20Also, please tell me why Germany is in the green. That seemed out of place and I looked into it and found this on wikipedia:
The Netherlands and Germany are reputed to have the highest levels of covert governmental mobile phone tapping. The article on telephone tapping states:
"There were proposals for European mobile phones to use stronger encryption, but this was opposed by a number of European countries, including the Netherlands and Germany, which are among the world's most prolific telephone tappers (over 10000+ phone numbers in both countries in 2003)."
In 2002 German citizens were tipped off about the scale of tapping, when a software error led to a phone number allocated to the German Secret Service being listed on mobile telephone bills. [5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance - HesNikke, on 12/30/2007, -0/+19part of the problem is that our SERVANTS came to think of themselves as our LEADERS. think about it.
- SilverBlade2k, on 12/30/2007, -1/+20You know what they say, keep people fed and entertained, and they will be happy..
- cheesehead, on 12/31/2007, -0/+18I used to be proud to be Canadian. But it seems we've just become too nice, and we've allowed too much American Corporate influence to corrupt our gov'ts. Federally and Provincially. A good place to start the cleanup would be to run lobbyists and their political whores out of town or jail them. In real jails not like Conrad Black's country club.
Lobbyiing is just another word for bribery. I wonder how much lobbying/ bribery Jim Prentice required to try to steal our digital rights over Christmas? - Hetman, on 12/30/2007, -0/+18It just so happens at places where financial transactions take place are very likely to get robbed. And all these places you are talking about are private businesses. Even if the government had no surveillance's private companies would. They are protecting their assets. If I owned a store I would defiantly have a camera on the register. 1 for employee safety. 2 so I could catch employees stealing if they did. 3 to catch non employees who are stealing from me. A private citizen does have a right to protect his property. And anyone who does not is naive.
- StormCommander, on 12/30/2007, -0/+17I dare you to name some things that Obama says that fixes problems like these...
- jeffreymunro, on 12/30/2007, -4/+20I love the Americans who defend their country by saying "we'll north korea and china are there too"... is that really a list you want to be on? wake up already guys!
- Dumbledorito, on 12/30/2007, -5/+20In the US, the businesses have them and happily turn their recordings over whenever needed. We also have those lovely AT&T switching rooms that the NSA likes to listen to on rainy afternoons.
- ussoldier, on 12/30/2007, -4/+19Try this experiment next time you go into town. Pretend you have a couterfeit bill (use areal fifty from your wallet, or a twenty), and pretend you want to break it into smaller bills to clean it. But there's a catch... when you do, you want to be absolutely sure your face or body is not caught on camera when you are doing it.
Go anywhere where a 'financial transaction' takes place, and you will see it is under surveilance.. you can not with draw money out or spend money anywhere without being taped, with the exception of transactions between private individuals and maybe vending machines. ATMs, gas station pumps, cash registers everywhere, anywhere you go where you use cash or a credit card to spend money, or withdraw money, and you are being photographed or video taped.
You never notice how much you are under surveilance, everywhere, until you try this experiment. Then its like lifting the veil over your eyes, you start to see the cameras everywhere. Its frightening how pervasively saturated we are wtih them in America, now as bad as England. - atheinostic, on 12/31/2007, -0/+14I don't know him personally, but Yaser Esam Hamdi was an American citizen and he was imprisoned illegally for years - and was never charged with a crime. When the U.S. Supreme Court finally forced the Bush Administration to either charge him with an actual crime or release him, Bush decided to release him.
He is just one example, of course, but that example is an illustration that the principles of our democracy are being formally disregarded by those in power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaser_Esam_Hamdi - rheaume, on 12/30/2007, -1/+15YOU have done this.
- forgottend, on 12/31/2007, -0/+13This is what happens when you elect Stephen Harper. He is trying to suspend Habeas corpus, and the liberals are afraid to vote against him because they don't think they can win in a new election. Thank god we still have the French in canada or else we would be as screwed as the US is.
- manicleek, on 12/30/2007, -1/+14The UK doesn't have CCTV on every block, it does have them all over the place in town and city centers, but not where the general populace lives in the suburbs. I honestly couldn't tell you where the nearest CCTV camera was to where I live. Whilst the situation may be getting worse, it's no-where near as bad as some people make it out to be.
Also, whilst CCTV is prevalent in city centers I find it hard to condemn given the fact that my life was saved by them once. - Blazekun, on 12/31/2007, -2/+15I hope you realize what an inane comment that is. That's like saying "I quit!" and having your boss go "You can't quit! You're fired!" It's stupid and reeks of douchebaggery.
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -1/+14I'm reporting you all to mini-truth. Have a nice day.
I, for one, look forward to serving Big Brother, and reporting you all is the only True American (tm) and Patriotic (tm) thing to do. - hiikeeba, on 12/30/2007, -1/+13I'll give you cell phones. They can track our every move, if they wanted to. Did you buy Anarchist's Cookbook online? There's a record of it. Favor BBW porn? Your ISP can track that. Back in the old days they had to sift through tons of paper. Today, it's one big database.
- Derelict267, on 12/30/2007, -6/+17Say yes to net neutrality.
- gcauthon, on 12/30/2007, -4/+15The colors don't even match up with the legend. Could the chart be a little more confusing? I think they screwed up the red/maroon (Australia, Brazil, etc.). But WTF is Greece? There are two greenish colors in the legend and neither of them match.
- Napoleone, on 12/30/2007, -6/+17How many of you know of anyone who's been to one of the CIA's overseas secret prisons? How many of you know someone in Gitmo? See? So long as you know of no first hand accounts, there is nothing to fear.
You're a ***** idiot. - dudefather, on 12/30/2007, -0/+11here is a sample of what it is like to be a Dundonian Overlord
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/webcam/main.htm - AROZ, on 12/30/2007, -2/+13And many are still deciding to get fast food for dinner...
- AdamGeld, on 12/31/2007, -1/+12The sad thing is, that if something like that actually happened, I wouldn't be surprised.
- Look4Truth, on 12/30/2007, -1/+11"Strength through unity, unity through faith."
- Dumbledorito, on 12/30/2007, -1/+11I'm sorry, but that's classified... because we say so.
- atheinostic, on 12/30/2007, -0/+9Are you under the impression that governments are run by angels?
Martin Luther King, Jr. was under "surveillance" by the U.S. gov't. You know what he was doing on a street corner? Leading mass protests against unethical government policies.
The FBI tried discredit King and scuttle the civil rights movement by revealing things about his private life, possibly even manipulating surveillance data that they had harvested without warrants. - Jugalator, on 12/31/2007, -0/+9Still, clinging on to the online world as a free outpost is saddening and clearly not enough in a modern society.
This map is much worse than former editions I've seen, and as one would have guessed, the world overall is in a downward spiral especially since the 9/11 attacks. These attacks must have surpassed Bin Laden's wildest dreams in their effect. - lordmetroid, on 12/30/2007, -1/+10The world has gone darker since last year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_International :(
- theangrybaby, on 12/30/2007, -2/+11I don't know who's digging you down, I love this quote
- MutatedNantuko, on 12/30/2007, -18/+27"Still think Orwellian comparisons are hyperbole?"
Yes? - jambox, on 12/30/2007, -0/+9Chinks? Thanks a lot.
- amrizzle, on 12/30/2007, -0/+9Somebody has to keep an eye on the NEDs, or else they'll run riot.
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