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- obliviousfool, on 06/07/2009, -13/+339But how will we remember our irrational fear without a giant memorial to it?
- ShuttleXpC, on 06/07/2009, -8/+222Wow, how many lives were ruined by 9/11. Let's ruin some more, right? Disgusting.
- NidStyles, on 06/06/2009, -10/+217Wait, is that even legal?
- inactive, on 06/06/2009, -6/+196This is ***** up.
- ivanmarsh, on 06/07/2009, -3/+170Yeah America! We're going to steal your land and build a monument to freedom on it.
- Seal, on 06/07/2009, -3/+158If someone builds a memorial in the middle of Pennsylvania and no one visits it, did it still happen?
- ianzu, on 06/07/2009, -3/+150This is such exquisite *****.
How can terrorists hate our freedom when *we* don't even have our freedom? - Bulletbillx, on 06/06/2009, -4/+130It shouldn't be as in my opinion eminent domain should only be used for roads, bridges, and other things actually needed for public use.
- LouisCipher777, on 06/07/2009, -10/+129eminent domain is horrible. the worst thing is that they are probably trying to low-ball these poor people who have done nothing wrong. what if this is where their cows graze?
Oh and last time i checked, the US government was broke. can't this wait until after the recession? - LouisCipher777, on 06/07/2009, -0/+103hell, they use eminent domain to build privately owned businesses and stadiums....
- JakeBC, on 06/07/2009, -3/+102Put up a plaque beside the nearest road and be done with it.
- Jimbob200, on 06/07/2009, -2/+95To take 2200 acres and use eminent domain to turn it into a memorial is, in this Digger's opinion, completely out of line with the scale of the tragedy. 2200 acres could be used for much more productive things. I'm very interested in seeing their plans for this memorial.
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -2/+91Ruin the lives of people who are alive to make a memorial for some people who are not alive...
- CaptHuggyFace, on 06/07/2009, -3/+80Yes, because that's what the passengers on that flight were fighting for.
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -12/+84Better get moving or you're going to be late to the internet tough guy award show
- WilliamAdama, on 06/07/2009, -3/+75What the hell do they need over 2000 acres for to build a memorial? 1 acre is nearly the size of a football field, the NYC memorial is probably only 3-4 acres. Anyways, Americans, this is why you have a right to arms... all that crying about preserving your right to weaponry, here's why. Now get going.
- mejf2loy, on 06/07/2009, -5/+69"Land of the Free"
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -22/+82I'd be out there on a lawn chair with a couple of rifles, waiting. This is nothing more than robbery.
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -3/+58***** 9/11
- TheTaoOfBill, on 06/07/2009, -3/+53Yes. It's legal. You don't technically own your land. The government owns your land. When you buy land what you are actually doing is buying the rights to use the land from the government on the government's terms. That's why the government can restrict your rights with zoning boards and so forth.
The government can take your land for any reason as long as it pays you market value for it. Most of the time when the government does this they pay you more than it's worth to lessen the PR blow because obviously it's not a very popular course of action. - TheTaoOfBill, on 06/07/2009, -6/+55Eminent Domain is a nessisary right of the government. Without it we wouldn't have our railroads system or our highway system. It is impossible to expect the government to be able to build infrastructure without being able to take control of the land it technically owns.
Sure it sucks when it happens but it's necessiary for the growth of our country.
However...in this particular case...I think it's completely ridiculious to seize land from people in order to build a memorial. Someone should let them know that the Vietnam memorial isn't actually in Vietnam. - 0biKwiet, on 06/07/2009, -4/+48This is secretly a monument to our loss of rights since 9/11.
(Yes I know eminent domain has nothing to do with counter terrorism, but it was fairly recently that the supreme court expanded its scope, so I think it still works.) - CTK14A, on 06/07/2009, -2/+44And even then, that's a slippery slope. Where I'm from 'public works project' means 'political rewards to developer cronies.' And all the better if it demolishes poor folks' houses in the process, clearing a path for luxury condos on stolen land...
Who decides what's necessary?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990 ... - Jensaarai, on 06/07/2009, -1/+39The terrorists have won.
/s.. maybe? - TwwIX, on 06/07/2009, -2/+37Umm, what? They want to take over the land from these poor people yet they still haven't build a memorial at ground zero.
This is a new low for this country. - seks03, on 06/07/2009, -1/+36All this for a rocket crater
- badtiki, on 06/07/2009, -0/+34Yes it's legal, the government seized a bunch of houses across the river from me in New London, CT - Huge controversy about it - houses right on the water, talking about the good of the town and crap, not mentioning that Pfizer built their world headquarters right next to the same track of land - after all that, still there hasnt been much done with the land.
- Skurt, on 06/07/2009, -1/+35Just lay down in front of the bulldozer!!!
/don't forget your towel! - quirkopatra, on 06/07/2009, -6/+40I wonder what they've decided the "fair market value" is. I'll bet it's a joke.
- EnviroChem, on 06/07/2009, -2/+36There is precedent for the government using eminent domain to acquire park lands. It was done to acquire much of the land for the Shenandoah National Park in Virginia.
- veotho, on 06/07/2009, -5/+37This country was founded on treason.
- Kakaze, on 06/07/2009, -12/+43The families of 911 victims are compensated with *millions* of dollars and still they're not happy. If they want the land for the park they should use some of the money they got, for no reason whatsoever other than existing, and buy it themselves. I wonder what the people who died on the plane would have to say if they saw this happening and how greedy their families have become.
- purseonality, on 06/07/2009, -0/+30It's almost 3 times the size of Disneyland. Nobody needs that much for a memorial. Not even Walt Disney.
- yournightmare, on 06/07/2009, -1/+30Do me a favor and tell me what the Constitution defines as "just compensation."
- kemp34, on 06/07/2009, -1/+27Interesting to see the Federal government do more stupid/evil *****.
- Apocalyptic0n3, on 06/07/2009, -3/+29Are they planning to destroy a section of the Pentagon to build a memorial there as well? I'm sure they could claim it under Eminent domain.
- prefontainej, on 06/07/2009, -2/+28What an unbelievable load of *****
- azimir, on 06/07/2009, -0/+25Pfizer wanted the houses gone because they were going to be "impinging" upon the view to and from the headquarters. I'm not kidding.
http://www.amazon.com/Little-Pink-House-Defiance-C ...
The summary from Amazon:
Starred Review. Benedict (The Mormon Way of Doing Business) has taken a complicated court case centered on eminent domain and turned it into a page-turner with a conscience. In 1997, an EMT named Susette Kelo left her husband, bought a cottage and started over in the economically depressed Ft. Trumbull neighborhood of New London, Conn. In February 1998, the New London Development Corporation began trying to muscle the neighborhood into selling homes to make way for a Pfizer research complex. Benedict's passionate account is rife with heroes and villains—he delights in pillorying Kelo's foil, Claire Gaudiani, the president of Connecticut College who lured Pfizer to consider New London. The fight escalated when the city tried exercising eminent domain to seize the homes of Kelo and others who refused to sell, leading to the case, Kelo v. City of New London, reaching the Supreme Court in 2005. Raising important questions about the use of economic development as a justification for displacing citizens, this book will leave readers indignant and inspired. - samsmartjr, on 06/07/2009, -1/+26Nah. They need that memorial built so plenty of tourists can remember sacrifice of the passengers and how they helped to defend freedoms in this great God-blessed country of ours. Which is why the federal government is threatening to seize their property so they can build a park where they have overpriced cheap souvenirs manufactured in China they can sell to people who will remember their great sacrifice for our nation and stimulate the economy to get us out of this recession.
- yacks, on 06/07/2009, -0/+24But we really need a 2200 acre plot for that?
Disneyland: 85 acres open to the Public... 430 acres if you include Downtown Disney and California Adventure
Cedar Point: 364 acres
Six Flags Magic Mountain: 260 acres
National Mall in D.C. 309 acres
Does it really need to be that big? - DannySpace, on 06/07/2009, -2/+26Hey Obama, what exactly are your thoughts on this?
- sleeknerve, on 06/07/2009, -1/+24If a tree falls in the woods, and no one hears it, does that mean my illegal lumber business is working?
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -3/+26This is a waste of money.
- dtfinch, on 06/07/2009, -4/+24"One way or another, landowners will receive fair market value for their properties"
If it was fair market they would have agreed by now. The government already acquired 950 acres just from one company. What do they need the other 500 for? That's a lot of land for one memorial. Disneyland is around 160 acres. - meerling, on 06/07/2009, -0/+20I agree, the size is absolutely mind boggling! That is NOT appropriate for a 40 person memorial. Not even for all the people of all the planes that have crashed in the past 20 years, and all the people that died in the twin towers.
Even that 6 acres the one guy was willing to donate would be more than enough. Heck, they've already acquired 950 acres from a single source!
Maybe I'm being a little paranoid, but I highly suspect a massive scam is being perpetrated here. - seventhc, on 06/07/2009, -7/+26They need to make sure no evidence is left.
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -5/+24^^ Yes, instead you insinuated that you would fire upon federal agents. Much better
/s - SpyCatcher, on 06/07/2009, -1/+19Why in the world do they need a memorial/park?
- cfuse, on 06/07/2009, -1/+19This is what makes America great.
- felman87, on 06/07/2009, -2/+20It's all in the constitution.
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