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- anonymousmedic, on 10/22/2009, -7/+41All I can say is this: GOOD. These ***** operate with tactics of terror that make Middle Eastern Terrorists look tame. If anyone deserves to get a swift boot in the ass, it's these guys.
- TheJimid, on 10/23/2009, -8/+34Its a 40 billion dollar industry, policy reform is the only thing that will solve this problem.
- jstohler, on 10/23/2009, -12/+32All I can say is this: these people would not be criminals if not for the backwards drug laws in this country. Want to put the Mexican drug cartels out of business? Legalize.
- BlackJackJester, on 10/23/2009, -8/+27If the US wants to seriously hurt the cartels, they will legalize growing of weed. Keep selling it illegal if you have to (politics, ya know?), but if grown locally, business will be boomin.
- Jensaarai, on 10/23/2009, -1/+15That is what everyone is saying when they took down the last round of guys. You know what that led to? These brutal bastards.
What do you think the power vacuum and rush to fill demand will lead to? Newer cuddlier drug smugglers? No. Three to six months from now, bad stuff is going to happen as a direct result of this. The guys who rise up will make these ones look like mere schoolyard bullies in comparison.
Drug smuggling operations were once small time gigs -- a guy with a van or some dude with a small prop plane and a couple connections. They got busted, and were replaced by more organized criminal elements. They were taken down, and so the next group armed themselves. We up the ante, then they do. Again and again, we follow the same pattern until we have ruthless drug cartels making the "drug war" more than just catchy rhetoric down in Mexico and many other countries.
This is the same pattern that happened with alcohol prohibition that led to murderers with automatic weapons terrorizing our cities.
There is only one way to put a real stop to these guys, and that's to cut their foundation -- take away their illicit cashflow, and legalize/decriminalize and regulate a good chunk of the illicit market. It's the only solution that has ever been shown to work. - Frankyfan3, on 10/23/2009, -2/+15Hemp, for christ's sake. We can't even grow HEMP!
*shakes head in shame* - ebfalls, on 10/23/2009, -4/+16The prohibition of marijuana has caused many more problems than using it ever did.
- kopiwrite, on 10/23/2009, -2/+13Why not? People that want drugs are going to get them and if they're illegal they're going to get them from whacked out thugs like these people. If the government would legalize drugs and regulate them, drug use would be much safer, thugs would be out of business, and I think it's safe to say drug use would not rise. I don't snort coke not because it's illegal but because it's not something I'd want to get addicted to and spend money on. The War on Drugs is futile and only gives gangsters a very profitable business. Keeping drugs illegal is the worst drug policy a government could give its people.
- shyner, on 10/23/2009, -11/+22Legalize what drugs? Everything? That seems to be what you're implying. These people arrested aren't just dealing in marijuana, you know. I'm for marijuana legalization, but much less so for other drugs.
- c0mputar, on 10/23/2009, -1/+11shyner. What argument for weed legalization can you not use for other drugs? Because the weakest argument for the legalization of weed is that it isn't that harmful.
- Kahnza, on 10/23/2009, -8/+18Won't change a thing. A mere hiccup. There are THOUSANDS more to take their place. Only thing to do is change the policies and legalize. They will disappear in a very short period of time once its no longer profitable.
- Naumadd, on 10/23/2009, -10/+19If American drug-related laws weren't such an outrageous assault on personal liberty, if this "war on drugs" weren't a fabricated war to begin with, this would be a non-story. Drug culture, drug economy is shady only because American culture at large continues to keep it in the shadows. As I understand it, such "nannyism" isn't provided for in the U.S. Constitution but is, instead, specifically designed to address the penchant for human beings, their religions and their government for refusing to grow up.
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -7/+15Legalize it. All of it. Give me a good reason why it shouldn't be done, and I'll be more than happy to point you to the statistics of alcohol related deaths and also to the crime of the alcohol prohibition era.
Go ahead and try to make a point even though the fruitlessness of it is obvious. - TM85, on 10/23/2009, -3/+11@shyner
Yes, everything. It's not the government's place to tell adults what they can and cannot do with their bodies. We don't need that kind of 'leadership'.
Alcohol is a crippling, deadly substance if you're stupid enough to drink too much of it. Plenty of people do, but that's their (stupid) choice to make. Same standards ought to apply to drugs. I'm even okay with some restriction on how and where they can be sold, to ensure that people who choose to consume them are adequately informed. But prohibition just doesn't work. The war on drugs is over, and they (I say they because the government clearly doesn't speak for us) lost. - ilykdp, on 10/23/2009, -4/+12The way these Cartels operate have evolved to a sophisticated level. They are run like corporations and avoid risk by hiring "independent contractors" to sell the product in the States. They will find new distributors very quickly.
This is just a hype story to give the impression the DEA and other law enforcement agencies are doing something with taxpayer money. - ebfalls, on 10/23/2009, -2/+9Onward Christian Soldiers
- Barackalypse, on 10/23/2009, -6/+12Our Government makes this possible, if they legalized it, the violence caused by the smugglers and dealers and fighting for turf would largely disappear as the cartels would be incapable of competing with large pharma companies using traditional distribution chains. Additionally, we could eliminate a lot of draconian asset forfeiture laws that have entangled honest citizens.
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6Because the people who want it will get it anyway. If it is illegal, the people getting the drugs will be giving money to criminals (see: cartels). You might want to read this article again, read up on drug cartels, and also read up on the alcohol cartels of the prohibition era (see: al capone)
If you want me to become tedious with you and get into the details of this logic, I may have a problem, because I'm real ***** up from smoking mushroom acid. I know I promised a debate, but all I can think about is raping white women. Plz forgiv. - bigp3rm, on 10/23/2009, -10/+15Wrong they will still be murders. They would just be in another form of business and still killing people. But yes I do agree with legalize it.
- c0mputar, on 10/23/2009, -12/+17Legalize all drugs. I don't care how ***** these ***** are, because our lives are far ***** with this perpetual war going on then they would be if the coke and ***** were legal.
- Barackalypse, on 10/23/2009, -8/+13And 300 more just took their place, plus now we taxpayers get to spend $7.5 million a year keeping the original 300 in prison (I once heard a prisoner costs $25k per year, although to be honest that seems a bit high, it is the Government after all).
- govtdoesnotwork, on 10/23/2009, -0/+4http://www.russmo.com/03_08_25.html
- SzaszMan, on 10/23/2009, -0/+4It's hard for some people - they argue ceaselessly for legalizing marijuana (which I agree with), but they want to seem "moderate" by advocating for keeping everything else illegal. In the end they're just advocating for a fundamentally confused position.
Either the War on Drugs is complete *****, or it's not. There really is no "moderate" position on this policy that America has been inflicting on the world for the past century or so. Anyone whose honestly studied the subject knows that the WoD should be trashed, yesterday. - anthropodeus, on 10/23/2009, -0/+4good job everybody! looks like we won the war on drugs!
U-S-A! U-S-A! - enantiodromia, on 10/23/2009, -3/+7who is buying all this Mexican pot? there can't be that many jr. high school kids smoking out after school.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 10/23/2009, -2/+5Well, they're always doing SOMETHING with taxpayer money, namely wasting it.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3It's clearly a total victory in the drugwar, and this time drugs have lost for good. (And I can try to be even more sarcastic than you!)
- stoned420247, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3While this is good, simply because they took violent criminals off the street. But the sad truth about all this is... For every person you arrest, 20 will take its place.
It's a shame that our drug war has failed. It's a shame that our Law Enforcement take this as a major victory, while never slowing the demand for illegal narcotics. - TrancePhreak, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3population keeps going up and up, and don't forget the economy ain't so great either.
- AaronS2000, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3wow, hundreds. You do realize that they have an estimated 100,000 members. Regulate the stuff already and put them out of business. Let junkies use it in a government building and offer medical treatment for addiction. There is no way it will be more expensive than waging a war on addicts.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/03/10 ... - BotchaMcCoola, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3So will this help get those drug prices and profits down then?
- yocouchdigga, on 10/23/2009, -2/+5I like that the ignorant morons that dugg you down had nothing to say... typical. You're 100% correct.
- mkw408, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3Obama needed a show of strength to all his naysayers who say he is weak on drugs because of Eric Holder's recent public announcement that they will not be raiding legal medical marijuana outlets,
These raids don't solve the problem and if anything make it worse. This will get deadlier and deadlier until the brainwashed generation. Nixon and Reagan are no longer voting. Hopefully we will wake up before it is too late.
Quite legislating our personal choices. - ebfalls, on 10/23/2009, -1/+4I know that imprisonment is not the answer but counseling does not work either. I know many people who spent a lot of money going to these classes and none of them are drug and alcohol free after three years.
- stevenwalters, on 10/23/2009, -0/+2Dude, you can't believe every liberal conspiracy FWD email you get.
- yocouchdigga, on 10/23/2009, -1/+3LOL, they dugg your down without saying anything too, Leon! Hahahaha, spot on.
END RELIGION. - cuoops, on 10/23/2009, -5/+7People get caught and other people take over.
- xero69, on 10/23/2009, -3/+5While we're on the topic, why does our ridiculous legal system lock up drug addicts instead of giving them the treatment and counseling they need? So much wasted money and misappropriated prison and jail resources.
- TM85, on 10/23/2009, -7/+9If they'd just legalize drugs already this wouldn't even be necessary. No sympathy for the drug cartels, but there would be no money for them to make in the first place, and we wouldn't have to waste time, manpower, and taxpayer money on this *****...
- LeonDiggsby, on 10/23/2009, -1/+3They'd all just say some variation of "drugs are bad, mmmkay?" anyways. Probably better that they don't say anything.
- borez, on 10/23/2009, -3/+5Great news for the prison industry, bet the shares soared this morning.
/s - Frankyfan3, on 10/23/2009, -0/+2anthropodeus,
Well, you can... but it takes a REALLY long time. - anthropodeus, on 10/23/2009, -2/+4there would be fewer overdoses because the quality of the drugs would be known and standardized if they were legal. there would also be fewer instances of drugs being diluted with other drugs, like how ecstasy is sometimes diluted with DXM.
- MidnightReign, on 10/23/2009, -1/+3Let's try a different angle:
If drugs were legal there would be near-zero violence associated with the production and distribution of drugs. See alcohol & tobacco for great examples. Also, the erosion of our civil rights would be, if not reversed, then dramatically reduced. - anthropodeus, on 10/23/2009, -1/+3you can't grow oil in your back yard . . .
- TrancePhreak, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1Crack
- BlueWindKami, on 10/24/2009, -0/+1It's the Boomers, of course. You know, those not-so-ex-hippies. We raised our kids, lost our jobs and our health, so we're back to toking. Who better deserves life's little and harmless pleasures?
- kopiwrite, on 10/26/2009, -0/+1Indeed they definitely are. But what does that have anything to do with anything? The point is alcohol is still legal, as it should be. Why aren't crack cocaine and methamphetamines? If someone is going to do that ***** I'd rather them buy it from a pharmacy than make some dangerous lab in their house.
- Navicerts, on 10/23/2009, -3/+4Great, I am sure this will improve the quality of life for Americans ten fold. This is just a waste of time and money imo, if it could be done cheap and safe great but I shudder to think how much time and money were spent on this. All those man hours... And for what? So I could read an article itemizing every hand gun and bullet proof vest seized? I have no problem with going after people that commit violent crimes but arresting 300 people in a wide net operation mainly to seize the money for the police force is really something that doesn't concern me and frankly I could do without.
Unfortunately, I can't express this opinion on this in the light of day without getting accused of some pretty crazy *****. - anonymousmedic, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1@TM85 - And Crack Cocaine and Methamphetamines aren't?
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