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- fuckingusername, on 02/25/2009, -18/+94and 14000 more cross the boarder to take their place.
war on drugs = fail - TooMuchPizza, on 02/25/2009, -5/+33I'm not sure why you got dug down... For every cartel operator that gets arrested, an opening exists for a new cartel.
The trade of drugs doesn't end because 700 people got arrested. - outoforder, on 02/26/2009, -7/+33I'm patiently waiting for the token "legalize drugs" comments. I'm not saying the war on drugs is successful, but its ridiculous to believe that legalizing cocaine and meth is the only way out of this bloody war. These cartel ***** need to be confronted, and anyone who doesn't agree has lost it. They kidnap and murder innocent people every day.
- jimbod, on 02/26/2009, -2/+21These guys need to be shut down! It's only a matter of time before we start seeing the kind of drug violence in the US that we are now seeing in boarder towns in Mexico. This stuff has to be taken care of.
Think globally, smoke locally. - cjharty, on 02/26/2009, -6/+22I think legalizing coke would indeed be taking it one step too far. It's just too addictive, it destroys lives.
Still, legalizing weed would certainly take a huge chunk out of their profits. - NikoKun, on 02/26/2009, -2/+15Outoforder, you cannot apply that argument to Drugs. Drugs are a victimless crime. Drugs are done by the individual, to themselves, of their will.
If Marijuana was not illegal, there would be no illegal drug trade, and these horrible people wouldn't be in charge of drugs.
We need to end prohibition, because it takes these cartels out of the picture! THAT is how we fight the cartels, that is how we stop them. All your way accomplishes, is making the problem worse.
Worst argument ever. Drug cartels ONLY exist, because of Prohibition. - inactive, on 02/26/2009, -1/+14you say coke is addictive and dangerous and therefore cannot be legalized? ever heard of alcohol??
- inactive, on 02/26/2009, -2/+14Yeah that seems to be working really well...
- CalltoSanity, on 02/26/2009, -2/+14Killing is part of the business of Prohibition. How many employees of Budweiser or Coors kill or get killed trying to sell people alcohol.
- Ineedanap, on 02/26/2009, -5/+16At a press conference announcing the arrests, Holder also suggested that re-instituting a U.S. ban on the sale of assault weapons would help reduce the bloodshed in Mexico, where last year 6,000 people were killed in drug-related violence.
U.S. officials have a responsibility to make sure Mexican police "are not fighting substantial numbers of weapons, or fighting against AK-47s or other similar kinds of weapons that have been flowing to Mexico," Holder said.
*shiver* - Harabeck, on 02/26/2009, -5/+16Pot is less harmful than certain legal substances. The others are far worse, there is a logical argument there.
- yocouchdigga, on 02/26/2009, -0/+11STOP YELLING AT ME!
- NikoKun, on 02/26/2009, -0/+10No, obviously not... but 90% of their profits come from Marijuana ALONE.
That would be enough to greatly reduce their influence.
Besides, I don't want my drug of choice involved in this mess... It certainly does not need to be. We could move onto other parts of the issue, if Marijuana was legal and out of the picture. - inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+10Potheads? I think the stuff coming over the Mexican border is a little stronger.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -12/+21If you legalize weed and coke, these drug gangs would be broke and out of business in a month.
- MtheoryX, on 02/25/2009, -1/+10"a little stronger"
You ain't kidding! Ever have a raw habanero pepper!? Whew! - zuiquan, on 02/26/2009, -3/+12You lost me when you got to the coke part. That ***** is evil.
- WordsnCollision, on 02/25/2009, -4/+13Heads will roll... not!
- altgeeky1, on 02/26/2009, -1/+10During Prohibition, there were two kinds of people saying exactly the same thing as you:
1) People who didn't drink
2) Organized crime, who stepped into the vaccuum to provide the public with the drink that they want.
I don't know why you feel this needs to take place underground, and support organized crime.
And BTW, I support this action. With Mexico, the US has made their mafia SO powerful that they're a potential threat to both the Mexican and US governments.Although, I'm VERY disappointed that this story made NO mention of the US guns being smuggled back into Mexico... - Argy, on 02/26/2009, -2/+11The difference is, someone else will come to take their place if you just arrest them, whereas if it's legal, you cut off the incentive from the root.
- GroupThink, on 02/26/2009, -2/+10Given history, apparently not.
- inactive, on 02/26/2009, -5/+13I agree.
Legalize pot, yes. Coke, heroin, meth ? ***** no. - ATLien74, on 02/26/2009, -0/+8Already done... It's called the prison industrial complex.
- skews13, on 02/26/2009, -1/+8so in your opinion keeping a system in place that has clearly not worked in 70 years is the answer? people that don't have viable solutions shouldn't be voicing opinions about something they have no good answer for. more of the same isn't the answer. now i know where they got the definition of insanity from.
- LongShlong, on 02/25/2009, -9/+16Mexico is a bigger threat than any 'terrorists' overseas... and by threat, I mean to the U.S. Government drug cartels.
- OPR8R, on 02/26/2009, -0/+7Instead of jailing coke users they need to help them get treatment. They ain't criminals...
- dprecocious1, on 02/26/2009, -3/+10Legalization is just what is needed. Prohibition has led to coke in more potent forms. Commercial production of coke would be much safer. At any rate, the fundamental issue is liberty. People have a right to screw up their lives. Why doesn't the government get that.
- yocouchdigga, on 02/26/2009, -2/+9prohibition doesn't ***** work.
the "war on drugs" needs to end, this is beyond ridiculous. - altgeeky1, on 02/26/2009, -2/+9Fear of Mexican unrest is exactly why Clinton signed NAFTA, and bailed out the Peso, and why the last Bush simply refused to allow the Border Patrol to do their jobs (at least until it was election time)
For the same reason, I fully expect the US government to give full amnesty to every one of the 21 million Mexican illegal aliens... arresting them would lead to uncontainable riots. No one wants to talk about the danger, but it is true.
The Mexican government IS their organized crime... but they're the devil we know. Permit their government to collapse (on it's own doing), and the US will be worse off. To some in the US, all of these things are less worrying than say having a socialist revolutionary state on our southern border. - masamunecyrus, on 02/26/2009, -0/+7Drugs harm no one but their user, but drug cartels harm everyone.
These Mexican drug cartels are becoming more powerful then the central Mexican government and are quickly turning into the kind of ruthless, lawless drug organizations the likes of which you have in Columbia, where they operate similarly to a small army.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29378774/
"In Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, the police chief of Mexico's largest border city quit after cartel hitmen started killing police officers and threatened to kill more until he resigned."
"Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/165780
These drug cartels are beheading and killing thousands, taking control of entire cities, and they leave no one unharmed -- infants and children are among those slain. Using drugs recreationally may be somewhat of a "victimless crime", but the activities of the underworld organizations that these people are a part are NOT innocent. - BotchaMcCoola, on 02/26/2009, -0/+7How high is the profit in this stuff to attract that many participants? Who is driving up the prices? . If we prop it up any more many Americans will be wanting to learn Spanish. Better invest in RosettaStone!
- offrdbandit, on 02/26/2009, -9/+16This message brought to you by Double Standard, Inc.
"Why use logic when picking and choosing is so much fun!" - inactive, on 02/26/2009, -1/+8The pot is mostly grown in the US. They bring hard stuff over the border.
- CalltoSanity, on 02/26/2009, -5/+12Murder involves a victim, drug use doesn't. Drug use is a consensual crime
- Biscuitz, on 02/26/2009, -1/+8It wasn't just pot, duhhhhhhh. You're one of the stupid kind, aren't you?
- andybex, on 02/26/2009, -3/+9What kind of ***** journalist writes: "12,535 kilograms of cocaine; more than 16,000 pounds of marijuana; more than 12 pounds of methamphetamine; approximately 8 kilograms of heroin; approximately 1.3 million pills or 500 pounds of Ecstasy; approximately 120 kilograms of MDMA powder"
why not give all the units in one either pounds or kilograms? this distorts the numbers so that its not obvious they're mostly getting weed, ecstasy, and a little bit of coke, the drugs people don't even really care about and do the least harm.
8 lbs of heroin? come on. 12 pounds of meth? you spent how many months? 21? just pathetic. - outoforder, on 02/26/2009, -8/+14Just what we need, more coke heads and crack fiends running around. You're an idiot. Do you get out much? That ***** should NEVER be legal or accepted by our society.
- m3th0dm4n, on 02/26/2009, -0/+6The "War on Drugs" is a propaganda term spewed out BY abolitionists.
Dummy. - Hetman, on 02/26/2009, -0/+6I agree all this is going to do is create a power vacuum. Drugs are profitable enough that I am pretty sure someone has already replaced these 700 people.
- Akairenn, on 02/26/2009, -1/+7You know what else destroys lives? World of Warcraft.
Let's ban it. For the children!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111eleven
Seriously, banning things - *anything* - because of simpering morons who have no self-control, is ridiculous. - active1x0, on 02/26/2009, -2/+7So according to Holder, the government has a right to infringe upon...my constitutional right...to ensure that the Mexican police have a right...to not get shot at?
Something is not right here. - solid12345, on 02/26/2009, -0/+5Funny how people say prohibition doesn't work, southeast Asia has a VERY strict anti-drug policy, just having the smallest amount on you can land you a decade in prison, and guess what, it generally works. My mom lived a few years in Singapore as a kid, she could walk the streets at night as a young western white girl and feel safe because they don't have a revolving door prison system like the US.
- offrdbandit, on 02/26/2009, -14/+19Oh but these guys aren't really criminals, because drugs should be legal, right? I mean, these are just wrongfully accused victims of an unjust system! Idiots.
These bastards should never see the light of day, nor should anyone who purchases their products. - brawr, on 02/26/2009, -1/+6Or, it's because with the exception of weed, most drugs are measured in the metric system. The journalist is just stating the units that are most commonly associated with each drug.
When was the last time you heard (irl or in the movies) someone ask about a pound of coke? Or a kilo of weed? - leetdood, on 02/26/2009, -1/+6Except the main source of their funds are the drugs. That's why they keep on selling them.
- wkrausmann, on 02/26/2009, -2/+7Oh yeah, it also kills.
- inactive, on 02/26/2009, -2/+7Legalizing something makes it way less fun. I can't tell you how many kids I've seen smoking in high school not care for it after they turned 18...
- Hetman, on 02/26/2009, -3/+8Legalize it all. It is the only way to stop these cartels. We should also be working on therapy and education to decrease demand for these drugs. But as long as demand is there and profit is possible, we are going to have gang violence.
- BloodWenis, on 02/26/2009, -1/+5I was surprised I didn't see ''Eleventy-Thousand" or 'Five and Fifty Dollars"
- specialK16, on 02/26/2009, -1/+5Non sequitur. Ever heard of that?
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