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U.N. Official Calls for Study Of Neocons' Role in 9/11
.nysun.com — WASHINGTON � A new U.N. Human Rights Council official assigned to monitor Israel is calling for an official commission to study the role neoconservatives may have played in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
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- adanac, on 04/11/2008, -31/+119while i do not like nor trust the UN (product of the CFR, Rothchilds, Rockefellers and other banksters) this is a good thing, and hopefully there will finally be a full, fair, impartial investigation into 9/11 somewhere in the not too distant future.
Great work by Dr. Kevin Barrett and Dr. David Ray Griffin and other scholars !- TrevaLVF, on 04/11/2008, -11/+29It might not be such a good thing if it leads to another cover-up, or something worse.
- spawnfree, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2like discrediting government altogether and putting forward a corporate entity as the replacement.
- spawnfree, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2like discrediting government altogether and putting forward a corporate entity as the replacement.
- sjl127, on 04/11/2008, -7/+17Now there's a trustworthy organization, the UN.
- JointVenture, on 04/11/2008, -10/+5OMFG you got diggs.
- veloscaper, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5never happen. worst case they all get anthrax letters or die in freak accidents.
- JustDino, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2The U.N. is the problem not the cure. We need a real investigation by the American Citizen. We do not need more BS from government covering up the facts and keeping America in the Dark.
- TrevaLVF, on 04/11/2008, -11/+29It might not be such a good thing if it leads to another cover-up, or something worse.
- cashman57, on 04/11/2008, -51/+38The question also needs to be asked why there were no Americans aboard any of those planes who had their rights intact.
One armed American aboard each of those planes could have prevented the maniacs from completing their mission, yet none were allowed to have their right to be secure in their person and their right to keep and bear arms.- yellowcakewalk, on 04/11/2008, -16/+47With all due respect to gun owners, I'm not sure a crowded airliner is the right place loaded weapons.
- GhostyBoy, on 04/11/2008, -9/+14I'm with you on that one yellow. This argument that having everyone on the flight armed to the teeth seems pretty silly to me.
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -8/+4I believe that there should be an incredibly strict carry permit that would allow well trained, and straight as a ***** arrow private citizens to carry on airliners. The government could pay for twenty or so hours of rigorous training, and you could spring for the background check, and it would save the government piles of money on armed sky marshals. I practice draw and shoot drills for two hours every weekend when i go to the range, I can probably shoot better than 90% of the military and there are other citizens just like me. There should be exceptions made for people like me in the interest of protecting the innocent.
- jimjimjimson, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3Big ups on your skills, but I still don't want you carrying a gun on my flights. (If you know how to help me sneak a couple of liters of water on board, I'd appreciate it, though. I gets real thirsty when I fly and I hate to bug the flight attendants too often.)
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -3/+1WTF? Just buy it at the concession after you go through security.
- mcquitty, on 04/11/2008, -1/+0Simple. Get a camelback bladder. Fill it with water, but not all the way. Strap it to your waist or thigh. Freak out passengers by pulling out the tube and sucking down the water.
Now, for a couple concerns. Random checks aren't so random anymore. You can tell if you are going to get the extra screening by looking at your ticket. If your ticket shows SSSS on the bottom, you will get extra scutiny. This is usually determined by rules, such as last minute one way tickets. I get these when I get bumped on my flight and take another airline home. If you get those, I highly recommend removing the bladder and throwing it away.
If you happen to get screened, fein innocence and call it a colostomy bag and pray the TSA agent is a idiot. Wait, you won't have to pray...
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2You know who else was a good shot? Seung Hui Cho.
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -2/+3He was also a ***** psycho, and did you miss that bit about extremely rigorous background checks?
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2No offense, but you sound a little nutty yourself. I'm sure Seung Hui Cho liked to go online and brag about his elite skills. And if you asked him he'd probably say he was totally sane and qualified to run around playing cowboys and indians too.
- jimjimjimson, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3Big ups on your skills, but I still don't want you carrying a gun on my flights. (If you know how to help me sneak a couple of liters of water on board, I'd appreciate it, though. I gets real thirsty when I fly and I hate to bug the flight attendants too often.)
- timbellomo, on 04/11/2008, -2/+7they don't *have* to fly...
- publiclurker, on 04/11/2008, -12/+9Oh, please, just take your Viagra before getting on the plane. The last thing we need on a crowded aircraft serving alcohol is a bunch of idiots with delusions of adequacy and a few too many Rambo movies taking a shot at anyone with a slight tan.
- knight2001, on 04/11/2008, -7/+16You're joking right? If you were allowed to board planes armed to the teeth then I am sure the terrorists would not have simply left their weapons behind. Also how hard would it be for a terrorist.. (and they are not all non-american.. There are many many crazy Americans that would do it) pull out the gun and shoot out a window? How many times have you heard about people going nuts and having to be restrained by crew because they wanted off the plane? Do you think they wouldn't pull a gun if they were already crazy enough to try and open the door? It happens... Like it or not there are some places you should not be allowed your gun.
However, having an armed air marshal on every flight would have helped as they can carry a gun and you can pretty much count on the fact they won't flipout and start shooting over their coke being warm or their pillow not being fluffy enough.- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -3/+4You have any idea how much it would cost the government to put an armed air marshal on every flight. There are almost thirty-thousand flights on any given day. Allowing very well trained, and meticulously checked citizens to carry a concealed weapon on a flight would save lives.
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2"very well trained, and meticulously checked citizens"
In other words, air marshalls.- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -1/+1Except air marshals upward of 40 grand a year to employ, and keep a citizen trained and in check might cost a grand a year.
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3Maybe you should just become an air marshall and offer to work for free. Problem solved.
- knight2001, on 04/11/2008, -0/+0It would cost about as much as a stewardess.. Considering how much we pay for tickets I think they can manage one per flight.
- suprememilo, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Cheaper than this war, and it would offer more protection.
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2"very well trained, and meticulously checked citizens"
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -3/+4You have any idea how much it would cost the government to put an armed air marshal on every flight. There are almost thirty-thousand flights on any given day. Allowing very well trained, and meticulously checked citizens to carry a concealed weapon on a flight would save lives.
- thebaron2, on 04/11/2008, -3/+15The *pilots* should have been armed. Other than that, loaded guns are just a liability on a plane.
- publiclurker, on 04/11/2008, -3/+8We've already had a trained pilot put a round through the side of a plane.
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -5/+2Typical digg, buried for the truth.
- thebaron2, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1True, but accidents will happen regardless. If a trained pilot had an accidental discharge, imagine how many times that would happen if the pilots *and* passengers were all armed to the teeth.
- publiclurker, on 04/11/2008, -3/+8We've already had a trained pilot put a round through the side of a plane.
- bingobongony, on 04/11/2008, -4/+10cashman...you were already made to look like a ***** idiot when you suggested this last night. Why would you do it again and expect the turnout to be better?
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -6/+3STOP ***** TROLLING!
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2Explosive decompression.
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -3/+3Doesn't happen with bullet holes. Aircraft are designed to withstand things like that. Even if you shoot a window it will not even blow the window out. One could likely plug a bullet hole in a plane with a rubber stopper. Besides, all of my self defense ammo is low V enough to kill, but not enough to go straight through a body and then through the wall. These are things that would need to be thought of before hand.
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2You sound like the last person I want to have a gun on a plane.
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -2/+1Any you know ***** all about physics, so we're even.
http://gadgetopia.com/post/2606
http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/350744
http://www.thegunzone.com/091101/goldfinger.html
Apparently opther people have already done the footwork for me, sorry no calculations today - petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2I do?
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -2/+1Any you know ***** all about physics, so we're even.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3Actually, you are 100% correct. My bad.
- Jimmerz, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1While those may be valid points, I would love to see the check-in process where they inspect everyone's guns to see if they have only 'low V' ammo. The idea that anyone should have guns on a plane other than air marshals and pilots is absolutely retarded, and that's an insult to retards.
- petrodollar, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2You sound like the last person I want to have a gun on a plane.
- Spuy767, on 04/11/2008, -3/+3Doesn't happen with bullet holes. Aircraft are designed to withstand things like that. Even if you shoot a window it will not even blow the window out. One could likely plug a bullet hole in a plane with a rubber stopper. Besides, all of my self defense ammo is low V enough to kill, but not enough to go straight through a body and then through the wall. These are things that would need to be thought of before hand.
- bratpack8, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2The passenger's rights are not violated as it is not their airplane. The airlines are the true ones whose rights are being violated by the government telling them their passengers can't carry guns on board. Now whether an airline would allow guns or not is another question, but it should be their right to do so. Of course, the insurance companies who insure these airline's planes (that are leased) will also have a say. There are many stake holders involved, but what is clear is the govt should have zero say in it. If I were an owner or CEO of an airline, I would not allow loaded guns on board with passengers, but I would have my pilots fulling armed and ready to defend their airplane (kind of like a captain on a boat).
- yellowcakewalk, on 04/11/2008, -16/+47With all due respect to gun owners, I'm not sure a crowded airliner is the right place loaded weapons.
- tskier, on 04/11/2008, -38/+44Time to get out of the UN. It has become nothing more than a criminal enterprise which only exists to line the pockets of its greedy members.
- pintomp3, on 04/11/2008, -14/+24except that we are one of the most greedy and corrupt members.
- sicamore, on 04/11/2008, -3/+10and replace it with what? A single hegemony dictating to others the way things should be? Don't forget that the UN does a lot more that what the media gives it credit for. For example, countries have a forum for dialogue as a very basic one. They use this to discuss international laws, treaties, health, education and of course security all in a forum where countries can have a voice and be treated as peers. The only people that would have a problem with this are those that feel that their country deserves to do the dictating and have no checks and balances on their actions.
Don't be a victim of media sensationalism- JustDino, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1Wake up! The reason for the U,N. in the first place was to form a international body that would rep ell aggression by a dictator like Hitler. After the Berlin wall came down the U.N. is a useless body of freeloaders on our back. The only reason to keep them around is for world domination by the Bankers who print our money. Congress will tell you it is a useful tool--but truth is they are traitors to their oath.
They can not defend the Constitution and also want World Order which would abolish the Constitution.
They are Tyrants--not representatives of we the people. Patriots true description would be fighters against tyranny in their government. Not waving the American flag and fighting in our armed forces.which they have no say except to obey orders from the tyrants. We are their only salvation
when we go to the poles and cast our vote. If we are not smarter than going along to get along we are destined for destruction.
- JustDino, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1Wake up! The reason for the U,N. in the first place was to form a international body that would rep ell aggression by a dictator like Hitler. After the Berlin wall came down the U.N. is a useless body of freeloaders on our back. The only reason to keep them around is for world domination by the Bankers who print our money. Congress will tell you it is a useful tool--but truth is they are traitors to their oath.
- SchizoidLiberal, on 04/11/2008, -34/+29Past time the UN was closed down.
- edinbud, on 04/11/2008, -50/+45New U.N. Human Rights Council official assigned to monitor Israel is anti-Israel 9/11 truther? That's got to be a new low for the UN (and that's saying something). It has no credibility anymore.
- KMye, on 04/11/2008, -17/+32Wow, and Israel doesn't want to let this ***** into their country to appraise their "Nazi" treatment of the Palestinians. How unreasonable of them...
- Ne007, on 04/11/2008, -5/+8Yeh...I wonder what they have to hide?
- RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -3/+7 I agree it's unfair and he should probably be replaced. But in the interest of fairness I don't recall hearing any outrage when pro Israeli Zionists fill important positions with regards to Israel.
- Intercon, on 04/11/2008, -2/+8You sir, have relinquished your own credibility with the term "truther." Please wake the ***** up and look at the facts. It's really very simple. 9/11 was an neocon and israeli-orchestrated false flag operation used to change the political climate and launch a war of imperialism. To suggest otherwise, is to reveal an ignorance of the facts of the case, and likely a contempt for the rule of law and the rights of man. Ignorant sheep like you who swallow the cover story and spew disdain on persons who are real patriots and are fighting against the high-jacking of their government are pathetic, sir, I said pathetic. Educate yourself!
- mystcnurse, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2Absolutely. What really sucks tho, is that the UN is "calling for a study of the Neocons role" when it SHOULD be our ***** Senators and Congressmen. But unlike Cynthia McKinney, whose questions were NEVER answered - to this day; (What happened to the three trillion that was reported missing by Rumsfeld the day before the 9/11 attacks and then never mentioned again; what about the sex trade among major corporations who have huge government contracts in Iraq, etc, etc.) most of them are whoosies who just wanna make sure that they keep the peace, and their jobs, or future contracts, speaking engagements, etc, etc. They are all Bush asslickers, as far as I am concerned, with the exception of a very few. There are some questions that NEED to be answered. Questions that were CLEARLY never answered, it is that simple. For ONE - why is there ONLY ONE TAPE of SOMETHING blowing up the Pentagon - which is one of the most highly secured buildings IN THE WORLD. A TAPE which shows NOTHING. Why can I not see the rest of the videos, which were taken from every possible angle, and which the FBI confiscated from private businesses within minutes of the incident? WHY? Anyone who thinks that a person who asks that simple question is a "conspiracy theorist" is a brainless sheep. Baaaa.
- KMye, on 04/11/2008, -17/+32Wow, and Israel doesn't want to let this ***** into their country to appraise their "Nazi" treatment of the Palestinians. How unreasonable of them...
- InsideJob11Sep, on 04/11/2008, -42/+33"The question also needs to be asked why there were no Americans aboard any of those planes who had their rights intact.
One armed American aboard each of those planes could have prevented the maniacs from completing their mission, yet none were allowed to have their right to be secure in their person and their right to keep and bear arms."
Come on, don't promote the "official story" of lies:
WTC-7 has small, scattered fires, yet implodes in
a controlled demolition. Silverstein says it was
pulled.
Airliner with a 125' wingspan disappears though a
16' foot initial impact hole at the Pentagon.
All clear video of what blew-up the Pentagon being
withheld to this day.
NORAD stands down due to Cheney, I mean Osama
& 19 flunkies with boxcutters.
Everyone needs to do his/her own research about
9/11.- flip2trip, on 04/11/2008, -15/+27I'm only going to address one of your statements:
WTC-7 has small, scattered fires, yet implodes in
a controlled demolition. Silverstein says it was
pulled.
Silverstein's Quote:
"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
-Fact which is undisputed by either side, he was talking to the fire commander
-Fact which is undisputed by either side, both are not in the demolition business
Silverstein's spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:
"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."
He could be lying, right? But here is the corroborating evidence...
"They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there. Finally it did come down. From there - this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn't really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down." - Richard Banaciski
- flip2trip, on 04/11/2008, -15/+27I'm only going to address one of your statements:
- HughManBeing, on 04/11/2008, -48/+67Norad Stand Down - Morning of 9/11
War Games - Unprecedented levels that day
FBI Arrest of Explosive Laden Van http://www.911blogger.com/node/11425
PNAC Quote - "New Pearl Harbor"
Larry Silverstein Quote - "Pull It"
WTC 7 and the BBC's Report of its collapse - 20 min. early
Sibel Edmonds - Whistleblower
Norman Mineta - Testimony
Anthrax from U.S. Labs - used to silence opposition
Operation Northwoods - Precedent
Molten Metal - Thermite/Thermate - Evidence
Symmetrical Free Fall Collapse - Obvious use of explosives
Put Options - Foreknowledge
Footage of the Pentagon not released - Cover-up.
Secret Service - lack of behavior in Sarasota.
Basic Laws of Physics - http://www.911blogger.com/files/wtc23.jpg
Bin Ladens flying out of the country after 9/11.
Warnings from World Leaders before attacks, yet went ahead with pre-scheduled war games.- Herkimer56, on 04/11/2008, -37/+27There was no NORAD stand down. That is a fabrication of the Cult of 9/11.
There was nothing unprecedented about the military exercises going on that day. It happens all the time.
There were many reports of incidents immediately after the attacks which later turned out to be wrong. The entire country, and New York City in particular, was in a state of near panic.
PNAC Quote - Entirely meaningless in any conversation of 9/11 unless you have a delusional paranoid participating.
Silverstein - See above. flip2trip covered it very well.
BBC Report - So what? The NYFD knew several hours before WTC7 collapsed that it was in eminent danger of collapse and they passed this information on to the media. Some reporters jumped the gun but the vast majority got it right.
Sibel Edmonds - Second hand information, rumor and gossip.
Norman Mineta - Couldn't even decide on what time it was when he went to meet Cheney.
Anthrax - No evidence of that at all.
Thermite/Thermate - No evidence whatsoever has ever been found which indicates the presence of either compound anywhere in the WTC complex.
Operation Northwoods - Never even considered for operations.
Symmetrical Free Fall Collapse - None of the collapses were symmetrical and none of the buildings fell at free fall speed. Look at any video of either of the towers and you can clearly see debris falling much faster than the building. WTC7 took 18 seconds to collapse according to the USGS recordings.
Put Options - Happens every day.
Footage of the Pentagon not released - Evidence in future prosecutions of co-conspirators.
Secret Service - The President did not want to start a national panic by running from the room.
Basic Laws of Physics - Truthers do not understand physics at all. Google potential energy and kinetic energy.
Bin Ladens flying out - The bin Laden family did not leave the country until September 20th and only after they had been questioned by the FBI.
Warnings from World Leaders - No one ever sent a note to our government which gave specifics on what was going to happen. The warnings were, at best, vague.
You've watched Loose Change far too many times. It has warped your fragile little mind.- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -13/+23I have a job and a life so I can't respond to all of these, but:
Thermite/Thermate: Evidence of this is ample.
1) Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel.
2) The thinning of the steel occurred by high temperature corrosion due to a combination of oxidation and sulfidation.
3) The unusual thinning of the member is most likely due to an attack of the steel by grain boundary penetration of sulfur forming sulfides that contain both iron and copper.
4) liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurg ...
All of which is consistent with thermite/thermate.
Please stop invoking physics to spread ignorance. You make baby Isaac Newton cry.- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -6/+6Oops, link got nerfed.
http://tinyurl.com/hwfft - Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -7/+5Hey, and here's a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfelqXBgyPw
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -6/+6Oops, link got nerfed.
- matadata, on 04/11/2008, -10/+9Unless you can explain how everyone failed to notice the walls being taken down and materials removed to install the massive amounts of thermite required to slice enormous steel beams and somehow the whole time evading security and bomb-sniffing dogs (they were there, contrary to the lies that are circulating) during the weeks, maybe months that would be required to pull that off, you fail.
Please seek help for your paranoia and stop regurgitating these thoroughly dismissed pieces of "evidence."- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -6/+14I'll field that one. The towers were evacuated for several days just prior to 9/11.
As seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvj7Q9LRAJo
(The relevant part begins at 1:30)- Herkimer56, on 04/11/2008, -14/+5No they weren't. That's a complete fabrication. The towers were never evacuated for "several days" as you claim and some lying ***** on a truther video isn't going to make it true.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -6/+3I really admire your dialectic style.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -2/+6What about the witnesses he cited? Are they all lying too?
- theright, on 04/11/2008, -4/+4I'll field this one.
The speaker in the video confuses two separate incidents. The first, Ben Fountain's report, is related to actual evacuations that took place in the weeks and months prior. There's nothing unusual about evacuation drills, especially as the complex had been targeted by terrorists before. If you've seen the Naudet brothers' film "9/11", you will note some of the firefighters remark that they spent a lot of time down at the complex prior to 9/11 performing drills and the like.
The second account is that of Scott Forbes, who made allegations of a "power down" of the top 50 floors in the South tower the weekend before 9/11. Despite the fact that fifty-thousand people worked in the complex, not a single other person has stepped up to corroborate Forbes' report. Not a single photo exists of the top half of the South tower plunged into darkness for the majority of that weekend.
Besides, what is the significance of these reports? Do you suggest that in the short space of time the complex was evacuated (no more than an hour or two, I'd expect), a controlled demolition crew sneak in via the back door and wire the buildings up for demolition? Do you suppose, even, that they did this in the 26/36 (Forbes can't quite get his story straight) hour period over the weekend prior to 9/11? It's a completely ridiculous suggestion. Prepping buildings for controlled demolition takes months, not hours. It's not a case of sneaking in and hiding a mysterious black box behind the coffee machine on the 90th floor. We're talking wiring, lots of wiring. Removing chunks of drywall in order to attach explosives to the steel columns. Broadly speaking, we're talking about things that tenants would have noticed on Monday, and subsequently on Tuesday morning. "Why have half my walls been ripped out, suspicious devices attached to the steel columns with wires coming out and down the stairwell?"
P.S. The ultimate in inaccurate eyewitness irony? Scott Forbes, in an interview relating to Ben Fountain's account: "We had regular fire/evacuation drills, but not an unusual number."
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -6/+14I'll field that one. The towers were evacuated for several days just prior to 9/11.
- matadata, on 04/11/2008, -5/+4Damit... my previous comment wasn't meant for you Herkimer56, sorry. It was supposed to be directed to Hangly.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -5/+4S'ok, I answered it.
- matadata, on 04/11/2008, -6/+4'Cept your answer is based on a myth. This myth comes from some out-of-context quotes by Ben Fountain and Scott Forbe, employees who worked in the South Tower. It's in reference to the South Tower only. Here's a snipit of part of the interview that was conveniently left out:
KT: Besides the "power down" the weekend before 9/11, was there any other unusual activity going on related to the WTC? There was one guy, Ben Fountain, who worked on the 47 floor of the WTC 2 who said there was an unusual amount of evacuation drills. Did you experience any of those?
SF: We had regular fire/evacuation drills, but not an unusual number.
Here's some more info that you can dismiss, if you'd like: http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Controlled_de ...
- matadata, on 04/11/2008, -6/+4'Cept your answer is based on a myth. This myth comes from some out-of-context quotes by Ben Fountain and Scott Forbe, employees who worked in the South Tower. It's in reference to the South Tower only. Here's a snipit of part of the interview that was conveniently left out:
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -5/+4S'ok, I answered it.
- dracostimpy, on 04/11/2008, -5/+7Hahaha! Give it up, Herk. The damn is bursting and the neocons and their Zionist enablers are going down in flames. Time to go find a new racket to pimp on the forums, cuz this gig is up!!
- peligro18, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3i bet you are one of those cia agents that change the content in wikipedia and WANT TO KEEP DIGG QUIET!!!!!! ***** OFF!!!!
- cloudsifter, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Herkimer56 isn't doing so well. Maybe Centcom will have to consider some wage restructuring.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -13/+23I have a job and a life so I can't respond to all of these, but:
- mwrl, on 04/11/2008, -4/+9I can comfirm that the Air Force was flying normal missions that day. We expanded after the event to clear the skies of non-military aircraft.
- Intercon, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4You don't know what you are talking about, friend. What normal mission were you on? Ever heard of Global Guardian? Annual training mission between SAC, AF Space Com, and NORAD. Not your typical mission, and neither was Vigilant Guardian, the other annual large-scale operation being conducted during the attacks. What base are you stationed at, and what was your flight mission that day?
- Xopl, on 04/11/2008, -2/+7Isn't it interesting that one of the first things you'll hear from people who believe the "official" 9/11 story is that "if there was a conspiracy or coverup, surely somebody would come forward or leak the information."
But then when people do come forward or do leak information, it is "second hand" or "made up" or "they are crazy."
I don't think people really think about that hard enough.
This said, I'm sorry HughManBeing, but a lot of your list is ridiculous. - asdf2000, on 04/11/2008, -0/+5it doesn't matter what u think of his list,
"Norad Stand Down - Morning of 9/11" should be all that is required for there to be a VERY THOROUGH investigation - Kikokun, on 04/12/2008, -1/+3get a proper job, herkimer you sad sack
- Herkimer56, on 04/11/2008, -37/+27There was no NORAD stand down. That is a fabrication of the Cult of 9/11.
- gonegoogling, on 04/11/2008, -28/+43another huge crack in the dam..........it has now become a question of when not if the truth will out!
- Look4Truth, on 04/11/2008, -36/+34Truth:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-371925900 ...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P-uWyjwHY7g
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7860484536 ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8756795263 ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-165688030 ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053 ...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/kaboom/loizeaux.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-905047436 ...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qa7PN-8T2VY- Simonft, on 04/11/2008, -8/+8ALL RICK ROLLS!!!!
- cloudsifter, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1NOT all Rickrolls.. that's just to get you to not look. Videos are REAL, REPEAT, REAL.
- Mrdudeperson, on 04/11/2008, -3/+6We can't handle the truth, so stop trying.
- Simonft, on 04/11/2008, -8/+8ALL RICK ROLLS!!!!
- rme518, on 04/11/2008, -33/+87
Below are just two of the many 9/11 censored voices that we rarely hear from in
lamestream media.
" I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict Dick Cheney, Karl
Rove, and others close to the Wall St. gangs of the neo-Nazi coup de etat and kickoff
clash of civilizations." Robert David Steele, U.S. Marine Corp. Infantry and Intelligence
Officer, former CIA Clandestine Case Officer (www.patriotsquestion911.org)
" Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information? Who put out patently
false stories in the first place? When you put all these things together, I think it is
pretty clear that it's highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing
through Dick Cheney."
Col. Robert Bowman, U.S. Air Force (ret.) former Head of Star Wars, Ph.D. in
Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Recipient of the Eisenhower Medal and dozens
of prestigious national awards. (www.patriotsquestion911.org)- CaptainAmerica1, on 04/11/2008, -13/+5You guys crack me up...on the one hand, you protray the military as mindless, idiotic puppets who are bend on doing the will of Bush, then on the other you hold them up as paragons of truth, virtue, independence and intelligence. You can't have it both ways.
- CaptainAmerica1, on 04/11/2008, -2/+1typo..."bent"
- rme518, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3Actually, it was Henry Kissinger who called military men "dumb stupid animals to be used
as pawns for military policy." The same guy who spoke glowingly about how well
false flag operations keep a paranoid, ignorant populace in their place. If you were 9/11
literate, you'd understand that you don't need to have the military in on it to create a FFO.
For example, a key event occured June, 1, 01 that was a mechanism by which (amongst
many) 9/11 could be facilitated. Another mechanism was "coincidentally" carried out
that same day to seal the deal. I don't expect you'd know about these since you're
clearly not open to questioning the patently laughable and absurd OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY
THEORY. Lastly, a lot of well meaning military servicemen and women are used and
hoodwinked by elements within the government who do not have the true interest of the
country or military at heart. This is nothing new and is not unique to the U.S. However,
a lot of military people are also awake at the wheel and realize - sometimes painfully-
that the enemy can, indeed, be within. No one made the men above and many others speak
out on 9/11. They courageously do so because they can see the lies that are imperiling
everything that America should stand for. It's too bad you are so closed to hearing their
words and those of 9/11 eye-witnesses. Denial is the death of democracy.
- rme518, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3Actually, it was Henry Kissinger who called military men "dumb stupid animals to be used
- adanac, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3The persons quoted are highly qualified patriots (and there are many more who have spoken out), who swore to defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. The people you would prefer to defend are traitors who either are the perps, or who refuse to speak out and defend the constitution against the perps.
People like you whine that no one would believe this, no one could keep this secret, blah blah blah, or attack them personally rather than look at the mountains of evidence. If you give a rats ass about your country, about the victims and about the world, you would not oppose a new, fair and impartial investigation of 9/11.
Go back to listening to your $30 Million Dollar per year man Bill O'Reilly or some other high-paid stooges like Hannity for a hug and kiss, and let them tuck you into bed, and kiss your country good bye.
Nighty night! Sweet dreams Captain America.
- CaptainAmerica1, on 04/11/2008, -2/+1typo..."bent"
- CaptainAmerica1, on 04/11/2008, -13/+5You guys crack me up...on the one hand, you protray the military as mindless, idiotic puppets who are bend on doing the will of Bush, then on the other you hold them up as paragons of truth, virtue, independence and intelligence. You can't have it both ways.
- PolishLogic, on 04/11/2008, -26/+16You've got to love Falk. The guy praised the Ayatollah Khomeini as being an all around good guy.
I hear he once said Hitler could brighten a room. - Simonft, on 04/11/2008, -17/+7This would be great if it happened, but even if they did find that the neocons' had something to do with it, who has ever listened to the U.N.? Definitely not the U.S.
- LordKaT, on 04/11/2008, -2/+3Don't know why you're being dugg down. The US has a horrible history of listening and abiding by UN resolutions.
- Ne007, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3I think Neocons are sick of being called "Neocons". That's all. They see "Neocon" and vote it down no matter what the statement.
- LordKaT, on 04/11/2008, -2/+3Don't know why you're being dugg down. The US has a horrible history of listening and abiding by UN resolutions.
- bamapachyderm, on 04/11/2008, -51/+43Yeah, THIS guy is really credible. LOL! Yay, another barking lunatic for troof!
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -18/+23He's a Princeton law professor. Who the hell are you?
- LordKaT, on 04/11/2008, -20/+13He's a law professor. Call me when he gets a degree in research and investigations.
- Ne007, on 04/11/2008, -9/+11What a ***** retarded statement!
God could come down from the heavens and state the obvious and the truth about 9-11 and retarded Neocons would STILL call him a "troofer". and digg him down.- JohnReb, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5I could care less what lawyers, politicians or God have to say about 9/11.
Get me a peer-reviewed, professional paper in a joournal with a real reputation by someone with training in mechanical engineering that supports the "9/11" truthers claims. - Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -3/+3http://www.wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf
- JohnReb, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4@Hangly
Try to find a paper peer-reviewed in a real journal, one that doesn't have a vested interest in "proving" the 9/11 story as the "Journal of 9/11 Studies" does. How about in one that has a vested interest in protecting it's reputation for accuracy and a long term reputation for doing the same?
- JohnReb, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5I could care less what lawyers, politicians or God have to say about 9/11.
- Herkimer56, on 04/11/2008, -3/+5Every reputable engineer and scientist around has come to almost the exact same conclusions as the NIST report and you want to throw all that out because some bigoted ***** with a political agenda says it was an inside job? Where's his proof?
- cloudsifter, on 04/17/2008, -0/+0NIST had to "rig" their results to get anywhere close to the inaccurate theory that they were proposing happened.
- Ne007, on 04/11/2008, -9/+11What a ***** retarded statement!
- LordKaT, on 04/11/2008, -20/+13He's a law professor. Call me when he gets a degree in research and investigations.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -18/+23He's a Princeton law professor. Who the hell are you?
- likeyehokwhatev, on 04/11/2008, -37/+29Good thing I just made a new tin foil hat.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -9/+11Faraday cages protect better than tinfoil.
Also you need to think of a new joke. That one's pretty tired. - RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -6/+12 It can replace your insulator hat, the one that insulates you from taking a deeper look then whatever you are told.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -3/+7You can get a pope hat, which will assist you with your faith and reinforce your penchant for magical thinking.
- RedPhalanx, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2the Tiara is too heavy for comfort...why do you think the Pope never wears it anymore?
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -9/+11Faraday cages protect better than tinfoil.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -22/+74Non-Americans have a much clearer and disambiguated perception of what the current US administration is capable of. Too many Americans suffer from "my country right or wrong" syndrome.
- Arcueid01, on 04/11/2008, -7/+17Man you hit it right on the head. We need a formal investigation and we need the courts and not any of the neo-con cronies to appoint the inspection commission.
- pitlord, on 04/11/2008, -11/+6Sure, and when an American tells you how messed up your country is he is somehow "interfering," right? So, now only non-Americans are allowed to have an opinion about something?
-_-
Have fun with the beheadings after all the righteous Jews and G-d loving people are no longer there to protect you from your "benevolent" new masters.
X^P- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3Just what the hell are you on about, eh?
- spaceman77, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3You nailed it.
reporting from canada
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 04/11/2008, -18/+39The UN calling for an investigation of anything other than UN fraud and corruption is offensive. Let somebody with credibility do this. Their own internal investigations were rigged.
- matadata, on 04/11/2008, -6/+14Why are you righties so hung up with the belief that the UN is some horribly corrupt power-hungry organization. I'm sure there's some corruption, but for Christ sakes... some people in the UN have died fighting for human rights. They're not all terrible people. And if you voted for Bush even once, you might want to tune up your corruption-detector.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2"Why are you righties so hung up with the belief that the UN is some horribly corrupt power-hungry organization."
Because they are. I guess billions and billions of dollars in fraud isn't that big of a deal to diggers, unless it is by a corporation.
"some people in the UN have died fighting for human rights."
Exactly, that's why it is so tragic it is led by courage-less criminals. A lot of people have died while the UN stood by doing jack ***** too.
"And if you voted for Bush even once, you might want to tune up your corruption-detector." You can single out Bush all you want since it's probably your past time, but if you think the alternatives to Bush (or any president) for any election were any less corrupt, you are a sheep. - 140Suffolk, on 04/16/2008, -1/+1What? THe UN is worthless. You know the stinking UN permitted the Rwanda catastrophe. You know the UN had troops there in Rwanda. But when the general in charge called home, Kofi Annan, who was in charge at that time, told him NOT to use force. So the Rwanda genocide proceeded.
- Kizilbash, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1UN troops were tortured to death in Rwanda because they did not get any support from you (the US) and from us (the EU). The UN is what we make them.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2"Why are you righties so hung up with the belief that the UN is some horribly corrupt power-hungry organization."
- matadata, on 04/11/2008, -6/+14Why are you righties so hung up with the belief that the UN is some horribly corrupt power-hungry organization. I'm sure there's some corruption, but for Christ sakes... some people in the UN have died fighting for human rights. They're not all terrible people. And if you voted for Bush even once, you might want to tune up your corruption-detector.
- str3ama, on 04/11/2008, -17/+14well it's a step in the right direction, I'm afraid of neo-cons - anyone that wants to keep our country static or take it into the past is not to be trusted.
- geoffg, on 04/11/2008, -4/+0Yes exactly, we don't want to take our country back to Lenin's Russia, Mao's China or Castro's Cuba.
- robthom, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1For the most part this country has "progressivly" gotten worse since the 50's. That was the high water mark IMO.
- LordKaT, on 04/11/2008, -43/+38Too bad there's no "bury - 9/11 truther lunatics"
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -10/+12Also helpful would be "bury - 9/11 miracle theorists"
- datagod, on 04/11/2008, -13/+12You close minded brainwashed moron.
- nicepants, on 04/11/2008, -6/+8That's a great way to get people to join your cause ;-P
- Ne007, on 04/11/2008, -7/+1Hmmm...I think he was being sarcastic.....
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -6/+2HAHAHAHA
- clayasaurus, on 04/11/2008, -33/+40911 is an inside job, my friends. Someday to be revealed for all to see.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -9/+5Still waiting.
- jessehadden, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3In a sane world, with a skeptical news audience, people would be lining up to say "duh" in response. Unfortunately, people are instead lining up to join in on the name-calling. Orwell said that telling the truth is a revolutionary act, in times of universal deceit.
- UnstableMind, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1While I hope we learn the truth one day, I'm afraid it's going to be like JFK, we'll never know what happened.
- obamasnatcher, on 04/11/2008, -17/+20They also need to investigate what role the Spanish Government had in the Madrid Bombings. It's been proven that the explosives used COULD not have been obtained without the Spanish governments help. Backbacks could NOT have carried enough explosives to cause that much damage and death. The same goes for the 7/7 bombing in London. No doubt the UK government was involved.
- coffee200am, on 04/11/2008, -6/+6I saw a story on this. I wonder what kind of bombs Spains government used? They had good reason to bomb the trains. They knew that they might lose the election with out some kind of terror plot. They need to be investigated.
- NJank, on 04/11/2008, -3/+6let me get this straight. we see frequent evidence of mid-east extremist use of explosives for their cause, but if it's in the UK, Spain, or the US, then there is NO DOUBT that the gov't was involved...
Let me know when the truthers start dying from unexplained causes or mysteriously disappearing. 'Cause if what they say is true, such a powerful force wouldn't let people onto their tracks hang around to spoil the party.- Wholekernalcorn, on 04/11/2008, -2/+4There are no "extremists" in Iraq or the middle east according to Digg. Zionist and American spies blow ***** up over there and then blame it on the Muslims.
- fizzbitch, on 04/11/2008, -1/+4i don't think the powerful forces could see these truthers as a threat, considering that no one apparently takes them seriously, and that they (being the powerful forces) so heavily influence the mainstream media. i mean there's no way for "truthers" to get their word out with even a perceived shred of credibility. there isn't a need to make them disappear when nobody cares about what they have to say.
- skipinator, on 04/11/2008, -4/+3I am so hoping this is sarcasm
- RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -16/+13 Israeli special forces commando on flight 11, Israeli Mossad agents arrested celebrating while impersonating arabs near the scene on 911 and eventually sent home by Zionist Micheal Chertoff, Mossad connected Zim container corp leaves the towers a week before the event and Israel benefits from the attacks. Then immediately the Neocons push for war in Iraq with a pre-prepared plan.
But Anyone who wants to take another look at what went on that day must be crazy!- RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -3/+4 While you're digging me down let's see anyone on this board disprove a word I said.
- buddarien, on 04/11/2008, -3/+4So on the one hand, we have the Mossad who have executed incredibly daring and dangerous missions under the cloak of secrecy. They are world renowned for these actions.
On the other hand, you claim that Mossad agents are stupid enough to be videotaped celebrating an event that will no doubt incriminate them. And then do nothing about said videotape.
And which do you believe? Of course, it was the Jews! And now you are accusing a Mossad agent of committing suicide? And you want to be taken seriously?
Kinda like how the government is incredibly efficient at choreographing all the impossible events on 9/11 that you claim, and yet manages to allow a slacker like Dylan Avery to not only put together his insane movie, but doesn't think to kill him after he airs it.
Make up your mind. You can't have it both ways. Occam's razor. Google it. - RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -3/+5 Yeah I saw Contact I know what Occams Razor is.
And The Mossad was stupid enough to get caught videotaping, I'm not just saying that, it happened. It's documented it's fact and it happened, despite what you wish to believe may be true. Look up dancing Israeli's and Moving Systems Incorporated. And what do you mean they did nothing about the videotape. Have you seen it? Do you think you might have if they were Palestinians? Not to mention I live in NY and I remember the story, it was a huge story on every station that day until it magically disappeared. Fox news even did a report a short time later on the Israeli spy ring that they belonged to. (That disappeared too)
And why wouldn't they let Avery and whoever else wants to make their movie? There are tons of people who will never give up on the official story anyway and they can't just go killing everyone. Besides Loose change does not mention a single Isreali link to my knowledge so it really doesn't even relate to my post. It's not fair to refute me by refuting every truther that ever uttered a claim.
And I don't know if Daniel Lewin committed suicide I just find it an incredible coincidence that an officer in one of the worlds elite anti terrorist units was on the plane. You must admit that's pretty amazing. And to my knowledge he was not Mossad but must have worked with them being in a secret unit like that. - buddarien, on 04/11/2008, -4/+2No answers, just speculation and conjecture.
On the morning of 9/11/01, CNN carried a report of palis dancing in the street because I recall how horrified I was that others would revel in the death and destruction of innocents. Arafat quashed that tape from ever being replayed but you can still find it in a search. It is out there. This never seems to ever get mentioned. Why not?
To answer your question about Avery, why would the govt invest all the time and money to pull off such a seamless operation that can potentially be exposed by a dolt such as Avery? They planned and strategized everything down to the minutiae and yet overlook a single slacker? That then turns around and exposes it to the world? Not believable.
Nothing you claim stands up to scrutiny when closely examined, but hey, it's not like you are changing your tune any time soon.
Just try not to hurt yourself too much when you take off your helmet.- RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -4/+3 So you think if if the government started murdering 911 truth advocates that would be in their interests? That would help to hide things? The best course is the one they are taking, you can't argue with success.
The reason no one mentions the Palestinian tape is becasue what does it really have to do with anything? I also heard it was actually filmed much earlier and not on 911. Does anyone even know? I don't know, but a bunch of Arabs jumping up and down on the other side of the world doesn't do anything for this discussion.
And nothing I claim stands up to scrutiny? Name one thing that doesn't, you can't. All you did was change the subject, nice try. - buddarien, on 04/11/2008, -3/+2Name one thing you claim that doesn't stand up to scrutiny? You are a conspiracy truther that blames "neo-cons" and Israel for the blatant acts of islamist terrorists.
How about your entire argument about 9/11? Will that suffice?
"The reason no one mentions the Palestinian tape is becasue what does it really have to do with anything? I also heard it was actually filmed much earlier and not on 911"
It was a live broadcast on the morning of 9/11, but you wish to relegate it to being filmed "much earlier". Now why is that? Because it doesn't fit with how you wish to see the events? Maybe it is an indisputable fact that you now question because it is inconvenient to your theory? Why would palestinians be celebrating an attack on the US? Hmmmm. Especially one committed by the Mossad? You must really hold yourself to be quite above everyone else.
A bunch of arabs jumping up and down on the other side of the world doesn't do anything for this discussion, however a bunch of "Mossad" agents high fiving each other and getting arrested seals the deal. Impersonating arabs right? Because you cannot distinguish between them, I guess neither could they. How quaint.
You should really take the rational out of your username. Rational thought would conclude what most people's eyes saw.
Irrational thought has led us to truthers.- RationalXubrnce, on 04/13/2008, -0/+3 You're full of ***** my friend and can't argue the points. Do we know those Palestinians jumping up and down were a live broadcast? Maybe it was but don't act like you know for certain, you don't.
I love how you can casually brush off Israeli intelligence agents being arrested celebrating, ho hum no big deal right?
And no saying my entire argument doesn't stand up won't suffice. Debate the points or STFU.
- RationalXubrnce, on 04/13/2008, -0/+3 You're full of ***** my friend and can't argue the points. Do we know those Palestinians jumping up and down were a live broadcast? Maybe it was but don't act like you know for certain, you don't.
- quesi, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1http://100777.com/node/180
- RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -4/+3 So you think if if the government started murdering 911 truth advocates that would be in their interests? That would help to hide things? The best course is the one they are taking, you can't argue with success.
- samfishercell, on 04/11/2008, -5/+12And this guy was elected to a position in charge of reporting on human rights in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs? Good grief. This guy is clearly not the best choice for the job.
- darksheer, on 04/11/2008, -34/+28This is hilarious. The only people more delusional than scientologists are "9/11 Truthers"
- plimpton777, on 04/11/2008, -10/+8How dare you compare Tom Cruise to our cause! He's good looking, for one thing. And we believe in Ron Paul, not Xenu.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -5/+4I'm sure Ron Paul loves the support of troofers.
- bingobongony, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2He loves their money, but that is it.
- theright, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2Don't you see it? Ron Paul is Xenu.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -5/+4I'm sure Ron Paul loves the support of troofers.
- NJank, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5imagine children of that pairing...
- AceKicker, on 04/11/2008, -2/+4agreed
- plimpton777, on 04/11/2008, -10/+8How dare you compare Tom Cruise to our cause! He's good looking, for one thing. And we believe in Ron Paul, not Xenu.
- pintomp3, on 04/11/2008, -9/+7even if they did it, i don't think you will ever find enough evidence to prove it. even if you do, the corporate media will dismiss it. i think it is more plausible that they knew it was going to happen and did nothing to stop it. instead they drew up their invasion plans and got their corporate contracts ready to cash in. the pursuit of truth is always a noble goal, but the odds of finding hard evidence are not good. they may be evil, but they are not dumb.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -2/+4the good news is that the corporate media is becoming less and less relevant.
- pintomp3, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4if only. thanks to deregulation, they have bought out everyting to the point there are only 6 large media conglomerates left.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -2/+4the good news is that the corporate media is becoming less and less relevant.
- plimpton777, on 04/11/2008, -2/+7Uh, you think this guy is going to last long at the UN? Why can't he just say what he said in a private room among close, personal friends and family, like everyone else does. The balls on this guy.
- pitlord, on 04/11/2008, -3/+2The U.N. is full of fascists like this, have you been paying attention?
- pitlord, on 04/11/2008, -3/+2The U.N. is full of fascists like this, have you been paying attention?
- Arcueid01, on 04/11/2008, -5/+11Well, I am all about this and exposing corruption in our government. It isn't just the neo-cons, however, we certainly have a huge problem with them as of late because they are in many seats of power. I just wish American's weren't so ***** blind. Everyone denounces the facts and says that it is just too implausible, however, I don't think that it is implausible. I think that the administration is more than capable of an inside job.
- SilverStandard, on 04/11/2008, -12/+17I wonder how long it will be until the Bury Brigade or Digg censors this...
- bingobongony, on 04/11/2008, -12/+12you mean people with common sense?
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -10/+11No, he means you guys.
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/11/2008, -1/+4*sigh* I wonder how long I have to wait until I finally get laid...
- bingobongony, on 04/11/2008, -12/+12you mean people with common sense?
- forgiste, on 04/11/2008, -8/+8So basically the big bankers who run the world are going to whitewash 9/11 by pretending to reveal the secrets of the attack, when in actuality they'll downplay the role played by the NeoCons because they are one and the same.
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/11/2008, -2/+7Being a wealthy banker myself who wears an eyepatch, lights my cigars with $100 bills and strokes a white fluffy cat, I'm offended by your comment.
- Wholekernalcorn, on 04/11/2008, -13/+6UFO's did 9/11....
http://i29.tinypic.com/2db9yjs.jpg- skipinator, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2It's so clear, how can anyone miss it? Clearly there is a death ray striking the tower on the right. Photographic evidence!
- datagod, on 04/11/2008, -13/+30I am just so sick of brainwashed, corn-sugar sucking fat retards in America who cannot see that they allowed their country to be stolen away from them.
Keep sucking back your coke, chowing down on your deep fried cow carcasses, keep getting your lard ass bigger and bigger.....you bunch of moronic cattle.
WAKE UP!!- AceKicker, on 04/11/2008, -7/+5Calm down there crazy...
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/11/2008, -7/+2Judging from your attitude about most Americans I would think it would be in your best interests to see...oh I dunno a few thousand die, how about a million? If Europe really cared you think they'd be over in the states liberating the country by now from Bush? This is our fight and we're going to do it our way, it has to be subtle and we don't need to bomb buildings to get it done. If you cared at all and I mean EVER you'd be over here helping us by now. But oh what's that? "Americans are stupid' oh whats that? "Americans are lazy" you know what I don't see you doing jack either. I don't see British and German paratroopers, I don't see a French blockade. If your leaders don't care, than we don't care to that they help us. We'll help ourselves.
- datagod, on 04/11/2008, -3/+4What do you want me to help you with? Locking up your citizens and confiscating your guns? You guys are already doing that to yourselves. You need help kicking the crap out of Iraq for weapons of mass destruction that don't exist? No thanks....the Brits are more than enough help.
- captric, on 04/11/2008, -8/+3Data god is another ***** moron digg retard - dont pay attention to him, there is a retard around every corner here who thinks he knows more than the people who actually witnessed the event. He is an Expert because he saw it on TV and read about it in the newspaper. What are ***** joke!
- MrTito, on 04/11/2008, -7/+2SLEEP!!
P.S. - You suck at life. - zeromancer, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2it appears digg agrees with him.
- sremick, on 04/11/2008, -0/+5I'm an American, and I approve this message.
- dukeeeey, on 04/11/2008, -8/+6http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhmAL7weDY
- skanton, on 04/11/2008, -3/+1Oops, somebody got caught doing the doublespeak.
- bingobongony, on 04/11/2008, -18/+14I thought last night was an anomaly...but I guess the troofers really ARE making a new desperate spamming attempt.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -6/+5I'm ready. I hope the rest of digg is. Do we need a digging down brigade to control the insanity?
- serif69, on 04/11/2008, -4/+3Sign me up and digg 'em down. Let's do this!
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -6/+5I'm ready. I hope the rest of digg is. Do we need a digging down brigade to control the insanity?
- GettinReal, on 04/11/2008, -8/+7This is like getting Mussolini to investigate Hitler.
- RationalXubrnce, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3 You do know they were allies don't you?
- SuperMoses, on 04/11/2008, -7/+50People can hate conspiracy theorists all they want, but when it comes down to it, their conspiracies exist due to LACK of transparency from the government. If the government wasn't so secretive, these movements wouldn't be as vocal.
I'm sure those in the 60s who said the CIA were practicing mind control and experimenting with LSD on people without their consent were viewed as nutty conspiracy theorists.. who would have thought they were right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
This program starts in the early 50s and was only made public in 1975..almost 25 years after the program started. So they were able to keep that on the "downlo" for that long.. claims of people in the US government conspiring against US citizens no longer seems like an extraordinary claim. The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they jump to conclusions with sufficient evidence, however.. as I said, their conclusions are no longer that extraordinary.
I also don't want to lump all conspiracy theorists together. Some are more reasonable theories than others.- SuperMoses, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2"with sufficient evidence" should be "WITHOUT sufficient evidence".. I hate it when I leave out a key word like that.
- skanton, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5The problem is the generalizing of conspiracy theories and the negative connotation behind the term is giving them all a bad name.
- Mothrog, on 04/11/2008, -4/+1No, what gives them a bad name is the idiots that follow them and the crap science used to support them.
- kemp34, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1You sound smart.
- Mothrog, on 04/11/2008, -4/+1No, what gives them a bad name is the idiots that follow them and the crap science used to support them.
- Xopl, on 04/11/2008, -1/+4The second thing you'll hear out of the mouth of every person who supports the "official" 9/11 story is that "the government could never pull off a conspiracy and keep it quiet."
But the government HAS pulled off conspiracies and keeps many things quiet for years and years. - jessehadden, on 04/11/2008, -1/+4For some reason, "conspiracy theorist" continues to carry a negative connotation, despite all of the evidence that Washington D.C. operates exclusively via conspiracy.
- DavidTTT, on 04/11/2008, -19/+12OMFG All you inside job/cover up/Bigfoot hijacked the airplane nutjobs need to grow the hell up and stop pulling useless crap out your asses.For the love of god ppl.
- Wholekernalcorn, on 04/11/2008, -5/+8You forgot about the fact that the Jews that day were drinking the blood of the victims of 9/11.
- Mothrog, on 04/11/2008, -1/+8Do you assclowns honestly expect to be taken seriously when you constantly say such completely moronic *****?
- Wholekernalcorn, on 04/11/2008, -5/+8You forgot about the fact that the Jews that day were drinking the blood of the victims of 9/11.
- BaldGuy, on 04/11/2008, -9/+9It's hard to believe a government that nearly wiped out the former residents of this continent would turn on it's own people. Stop ruining my Americone Dream.
- g00dETH3R, on 04/11/2008, -6/+5When i digg people up or down the diggs stay the same, anyone else having that problem?
- chevyorange, on 04/11/2008, -1/+3I humbly believe that it is changing, but someone else did the opposite of you shortly before or nearly the same time so it looks like it stays the same.
- AceKicker, on 04/11/2008, -1/+5Nope, dugg you down just fine =)
- nicepants, on 04/11/2008, -20/+13Ugh. It was 7 years ago and these twoofers still haven't accomplished anything except making youtube videos and arguing on message boards. Get a life!
- Textzilla, on 04/11/2008, -7/+4Get 3 000 lives, and 4 000 more in the resulting war.
- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -3/+6Spend your time smoking dope and playing video games: hey cool man!
Spend your time being active in politics: get a life!
Someone has their priorities out of order.- theright, on 04/11/2008, -3/+1Making YouTube videos and arguing on message boards != "being active in politics"
Supporting Ron Paul because you're a paranoid delusional, angst-ridden teenager with a penchant for anti-zionism != "being active in politics"- Hangly, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1See I disagree. I call that grassroots political action, and it's something we need more of.
- theright, on 04/11/2008, -3/+1Making YouTube videos and arguing on message boards != "being active in politics"
- mrynit, on 04/11/2008, -12/+6*rolls eyes*
- IIAmusedII, on 04/11/2008, -6/+21Yeah, if you question the corporately owned media and/or the Bush administration, you must be a lunatic or something, especially when you never bring up any specific points to support what you're saying. Besides, who ever heard of a gov't blowing up its own stuff just to get the people to consent to war?
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/11/2008, -9/+4Here let me sum up this entire thread: Everything from the conspiracies to the official reports are all LIES! Everything, is a lie and everyone is lying to you. Alex Jones is lying to you about 9/11. President Bush is lying to you about 9/11. When it comes to 9/11 everyone who talks about it is either a liar or is caught up in the lie. You want the real truth? The truth is that everyone is so caught up in their own lies about 9/11 that they won't ever and I mean EVER budge on their own firm beliefs in it. 9/11 itself has become a full fledged religious movement that started in America and soon will expand the globe with its own priests and churches and congregations preaching one thing over another and pretty soon will all be killing each other trying to figure out who's right or wrong. While this happens the powers that be will continue to come up with ways to further fragment us about 9/11 and then it will move to other things and pretty soon we'll start killing each other over those issues. The "churches" will call the other "churches" blasphemous in their teachings and encourage suicide bombings against the "unbelievers". The powers that be will just smile and watch and after most of the world is dead from killing each other over what really happened on 9/11 the powers that be will succeed because this was all a huge well thought out plot to solve the growing population problem.
- zeromancer, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2usually, 'summing something up' is shortening it to some degree. you fail at summing.
- kevro, on 04/11/2008, -2/+6There's no point in reading any of these comments, it's all just, Yes it's all lies, I'm pretty sure it's lies, NO it can't be lies. I'm just going to keep an open mind and sit on my fence.
- Xopl, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3If every American was on the fence, that would be just fine by me. That means your eyes and ears are open, but you haven't passed judgement too quickly. That gives me hope.
I wish I could digg you 1000 times and put you at the top as the first comment.
- Xopl, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3If every American was on the fence, that would be just fine by me. That means your eyes and ears are open, but you haven't passed judgement too quickly. That gives me hope.
- psulion, on 04/11/2008, -7/+8The 9/11 conspiracy is...a government conspiracy.
- GettinReal, on 04/11/2008, -11/+8The people who question this bogus 9-11 ***** will one day be the people in charge of this country. The coward shills who are scared to stand up and question dogma will be the ones scrubbing our toilets. And if these wannabe tyrants in charge ever try to start rounding people up...I hope they come and get me first. I want to be the first one in the FEMA camp....I want to be prisoner 00000000001. That would be a great honor. I aint got time for sheep.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -3/+9hahah. You must be one awesome bad ass in real life. Can I meet you?
Best insane rant on digg ever.
Keep it real, dawg.- GettinReal, on 04/11/2008, -4/+2It was jus a joke...I am really in the thrid grade and luv this grate country....Pleze dont report me...
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2Damn. I guess I got caught up in the moment. Well done.
- GettinReal, on 04/11/2008, -4/+2It was jus a joke...I am really in the thrid grade and luv this grate country....Pleze dont report me...
- Mothrog, on 04/11/2008, -4/+7You can't change the world from mommy's basement, so that'll pretty much rule out any change coming from Twooferland.
- rme518, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2Rather live in 'Twooferland' where I can see through planted "evidence" and an obvious
false flag operation than naively buy up that some guy in cave on kidney dialysis and his
kamikazzi co-horts who couldn't even fly took down the world's most powerful military intelligence
complex repeatidly in the same day. I have to wonder how easily you'll gobble up what you're
fed should God forbid another 9/11 happens. In the meantime, I have some land I'd like to sell you!
- rme518, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2Rather live in 'Twooferland' where I can see through planted "evidence" and an obvious
- MrTito, on 04/11/2008, -1/+4Hey, if you think it'd be an honor to be the first one in the FEMA camps, man just wait until you get laid. Your world is gonna change, buddy.
- skanton, on 04/11/2008, -4/+1The only reason they're insulting you is because they feel threatened by your huge balls. Insulting you makes them feel better about themselves.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2Naught, naught naught. Naught, naught. Naught, naught, naught, two. Curse you Roosevelt.
- JMScheib, on 04/11/2008, -3/+9hahah. You must be one awesome bad ass in real life. Can I meet you?
- BluesFan, on 04/11/2008, -3/+6There's a lot of questions that people still have and I'm pretty sure everyone can agree that the government wasn't very truthful in it's investigation becasue if they were atleast one person would of lost there job from all this.
- JointVenture, on 04/11/2008, -14/+5I guess that bit about Osama saying he planned it was really Tom Cruise in a mask?
dun dun, dun dun, dun dun, dun dun, dahdahdah, dahdahdah...
Just a bunch of ***** who seeing that their lives are ***** need to come up with a conspiracy that proves they have no control over their lives. ie. its not my fault Im a ***** loser.- andj, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4but its your fault that your an *****
- giantdouche, on 04/11/2008, -5/+9ABOUT ***** TIME! What's great is that this guy is assigned to oversee Israel. He is going to blow the Zionist conspiracy wide open. He will likely be murdered before doing so, however.
- anoneng, on 04/11/2008, -1/+1I've got a bridge I''d like to sell you
- settlesdown, on 04/11/2008, -2/+0Well. At least you live up to your name.
- averagejoesgym, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1giantdouce, i think there are things beyond the normal political corruption on this one, too
- CaptainAmerica1, on 04/11/2008, -1/+5Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/militar ... - reprehensor, on 04/11/2008, -1/+0Eli Lake is trying to get Mr. Falk fired from his UN job watch-dogging Israel and Palestine. That's what this is really about.
Nice try Mr. Lake. - captric, on 04/11/2008, -3/+9This idiot was just as right about the Ayatolla Khomeni as he about a 9-11 conspiracy . For those of you retards who cant read that far here is the last couple of sentences from the article:
In a February 16, 1979, op-ed for the New York Times, Mr. Falk praised Ayatollah Khomeini and bemoaned his ill treatment in the American press. He wrote, "The depiction of him as fanatical, reactionary and the bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false."Nearly nine months later, student followers of Khomeini invaded the American embassy in Tehran and held 52 diplomats hostage for the following 444 days. -
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