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- Waiting2awake, on 05/25/2008, -12/+246and yet another small step is made, while the American people are assured by the usual suspects that it is nothing big, or ominous. Just like the secret prisons, the torture, the lies about the war, outing an agent, propaganda as news - nothing of nothing. Besides, they are terrorists you know. Trust us, when have we lied to you before?
Now just gently into the FEMA trailers...
Gee America, I bet you wished you had stood up to these clowns back when the worst thing they were being accused of was fixing an election and rigging voting machines Huh? - elliotys, on 05/25/2008, -2/+158Definitely read the article. It seems that they may have caught this guy before he could do any harm, but other questions need to be answered.
1. If they have all this evidence, then why would they need to go outside of the courts? Why not use the evidence to charge him with a crime and take his ass to a court of his peers?
2. Why the hell is it now 6 years later and still no action taken against him?
3. Does anyone really trust George Bush to make good decisions based on fact? - smek2, on 05/25/2008, -12/+124This sounds eerily familar... history repeats itself indeed.
- sodoh, on 05/25/2008, -14/+126This is news to America only now? o_O What gets me is people in the USA only make a fuss if it is an American. You can detain and torture hundreds of non Americans for as long as you like but the second it happens to an American (which appears to have evidence to charge) everyone is upset.
Somewhat funny part #2 is that he was set to try and disrupt the US banking system. Newsflash looks like Bush did that before you AQ. :P - matschig, on 05/25/2008, -10/+114In all seriousness, do you think George Bush has smoked crack before?
- smek2, on 05/25/2008, -9/+100I think they absolutely made a wrong move here. To investigate or interrogate a suspect is one thing. To hold someone in prison without charge, indefinitely (!) under a broad interpretation of the president's wartime powers is ridiculous. "When investigators looked through his computer files, they found information on industrial chemical suppliers, sermons by bin Laden, how-to guides for making hydrogen cyanide and information about chemicals labeled "immediately dangerous to life or health," -- that's it? That's the reason to imprison someone and denying him his rights? I wonder what investigators would find if there were to look through your computer and i'm quite sure, whatever it would be, they easily could turn that into a threat and a reason to put you in jail like him. Let alone the fact that this Govt is known for creating a false impression of imminent danger, lying and forging evidence. No charge and probably classified evidence means nobody knows for sure what's on his computer. That's scary and that's why they made a wrong move.
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -16/+80President Bush is not a King and can not deem anyone he wants an "enemy combatant"
This nation was founded on laws, and it has prospered through the adherence to them. Bush is dismantling the foundation of our democracy.
This situation sets a very scary precedent and is not democratic. - WoollyMittens, on 05/25/2008, -4/+61People! If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from an abusive government. Wait... what?
- novenator, on 05/25/2008, -9/+66hmm, military dictatorship anyone?
- trispear, on 05/25/2008, -2/+57"WASHINGTON - If his cell were at Guantanamo Bay, the prisoner would be just one of hundreds of suspected terrorists detained offshore, where the U.S. says the Constitution does not apply."
It seems to me, that since the Constitution outlines the Governments responsibilities and holds it, not the citizens, in check -- it would apply EVERYWHERE where the US Government is acting. Also, since the bill of rights does not mention citizens, but people, and restrains the Government from acting upon people a certain way, that it applies to EVERYONE the US Government is acting upon or against.
Also, I would like this administration and its lawyers tried for treason just for suggesting otherwise. I would like the same done to the majority of Congress for going along with it for 8 years. - LoveYouSomeEric, on 05/25/2008, -7/+62It's issues like this one that make GW's presidency so dangerous. He has an obvious contempt for the constitution and for the rule of law. You might even say that he hates our freedom.
- Sil369, on 05/25/2008, -7/+59So if someone robs their neighbour or kills them on the belief they could be a terrorist, this person could be pardoned?
- antonio97b, on 05/25/2008, -1/+49Why do you think Condoleezza rice looks the way she does?
- Sarlac, on 05/25/2008, -3/+49FTA: "the government claimed a broad interpretation of the president's wartime powers, "
That would be great, IF WE WERE ACTUALLY AT WAR! We may be involved militarily in multiple locations across the globe, but we have NOT declared war. As a result the POTUS has no right to invoke "wartime powers". - inactive, on 05/25/2008, -8/+53If the terrorist United States Government has a case, make it, or set him free!
- Sil369, on 05/25/2008, -3/+45Evidence could be planted there. If he can't get a lawyer he has no one to counter the govt's claims.
- shig, on 05/25/2008, -4/+43The government is winning the war against the American people.
- DscHmi3, on 05/25/2008, -8/+44Starting on page 120 of his new book, The Revolution: A Manifesto, Ron Paul cites this very case as an egregious assault on personal liberties by the federal government. Maybe he wasn't so crazy after all...
- matschig, on 05/25/2008, -4/+40Well i always assumed it was the lack of adequate blood flow to her facial region caused by having the hose of a vacuum pressed tightly against her kooch.
- identitymatrix, on 05/25/2008, -2/+37Sorry, but things just aren't that simple. The government is just too good at exaggerating and flat out lying when they want to demonize someone. Just read up on some hacker cases, such as Kevin Mitnick where then amount of damages were grossly exaggerated, or in the Bernie S. case where Secret Service agents found what they thought to be plastic explosives but later upon further examination turned out to be dental putty. These cases and others have been heavily documented so just search google for more information.
So when the government say they found how-to guides, do we have any reason to assume it was anything more than the anarchists cookbook? A book I think you can buy in some bookstores and is available for free online.
And who hasn't googled "how to build a bomb" or something to that effect at some point or another out of pure curiosity wondering if the internet really does have everything? Are you sure you deleted your internet cache lately?
As for emailing Al-Qaeda leaders, I bet it could have been any religious Islam website and the agents wouldn't know the difference. - Carl306, on 05/25/2008, -3/+34"Whatever the decision, the case seems destined for the Supreme Court. In the meantime, the first military trials are set to begin soon against detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Al-Marri may get one, too. Or he may get put back into the civilian court system. For now, he waits."
You know, I'm all for preventative measures and making sure our country is as safe and secure as it can be, but this seems somewhat ludicrous. At least put him through the court system (military or civilian) and don't hold him indefinitely without trial like this. And if he is a suspected terrorist, what is their hesitation in processing him in the first place? - Janizzary, on 05/25/2008, -4/+35If we didn't have military bases all over the World and we'd stop supporting all these damn tyrants, we wouldn't be in this damn predicament! Follow the Constitution, for God's sakes!!!
- wowsah156, on 05/25/2008, -6/+35Isnt this this declaration the same law that Hiler's Nazi party pass in 1935/36 just before they started to round up political opponents, dissenters, ethnic minorities, oh and jews? What is the government planning that needs them to put the military in peoples homes? And why is the constitution being ripped apart by an elected American government?
- Waiting2awake, on 05/25/2008, -3/+32What makes you think that?
- youareretarded, on 05/25/2008, -1/+29He dugg the story and helped get it to the front page where others may see it and help open their eyes.
- atdigg, on 05/25/2008, -5/+32I agree, but why not charge him for what he did?
- antonio97b, on 05/25/2008, -1/+28Touche.
- WiseWeasel, on 05/25/2008, -2/+29Because he didn't DO anything. They're trying to do Minority Report-style precrime prosecutions for "planned" crimes, and setting an unacceptable precedent. It's entirely possible that this guy was going to carry out some type of attack, but then they should have done some standard sting operation to catch him red-handed if they wanted to charge him as an enemy combattant. To just take random people in the US, find suspicious information in their possession, and then strip them of all their rights, is just an awful precedent to set, as it WILL be abused, and mistakes WILL be made. Slippery slope indeed.
- consonance, on 05/25/2008, -2/+28Bush is fighting the terrorists who hate our freedom by taking it away from us to ensure that they can't take away our freedom.
- Jan33, on 05/25/2008, -3/+27Why do you say he can't deem anyone he wants an enemy combatant? The fact is that he can.
- Thinbev, on 05/25/2008, -2/+26Is it me or does it seem as though our government is going totally out of control? I can't believe we all pay our income taxes to this insane government of ours...
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -2/+25then let the civilian services take care of him. why the ***** does the military have to get involved.
- AndrewDB, on 05/25/2008, -7/+30WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. - Focher, on 05/25/2008, -1/+24The Constitution specifically allows the suspension of habeus corpus in the event of rebellion or invasion. The Civil War pretty much qualifies under the clause, besides that Lincoln had Congress approve the suspension.
In the past 7+ years, what the Bush Administration has done is engaged in a systematic power grab and claimed full presidential prerogative over the exercise of those powers. Part of the problem seems to be this silly acceptance that we are in a "war on terrorism". That is a pejorative phrase that is too often interpreted literally as if we are legally at war. We aren't. The declaration of war is explicitly empowered to Congress, and they haven't done it.We have a fully functioning police force and court system. There is no excuse not to prosecute someone under the law if they have committed a crime. - badassninja, on 05/25/2008, -3/+25Bush Corp needs to be arrested. I would say that the next prez should just have the military grab him and hold him forever with out a charge. But *****, I'm no monster.
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -7/+29Don’t worry. That only applies to registered democrats. So if you voted for Bush last time around like a good law-abiding citizen would you are safe and secure.
- youareretarded, on 05/25/2008, -2/+23And if they don't really have evidence then what would have been the harm in letting him go.
There is either enough evidence to convict in a normal court of law or there isn't, there is no need to go around the system we have set up. - Internazionale, on 05/25/2008, -7/+27Another reason why I thank god I don't live in the states
- Justice101, on 05/25/2008, -0/+20They should have sent in the F.B.I. that's why it's there, and if they suspected that it was terrorism; should have been the H.R.T..
- Dundasbro, on 05/25/2008, -2/+22What the *****?
- elliotys, on 05/25/2008, -1/+20Good point.
- Waiting2awake, on 05/25/2008, -1/+20 Who is rolling over? If you are supporting this war, it is YOU that have rolled over to the tune of how many Billions? Sorry, Trillions?
But that is OK, says you, because I ain't gonna pay fo it. But your great grandkids will be, all because you thought poverty stricken brown people with every satellite known to man focusing in on them AND weapons inspectors out the wazzo AND an entire ocean away were a threat to the most powerful nation on earth?
Seriously, can you imagine how history will record that *****? - merm, on 05/25/2008, -2/+20If they've got so much evidence against him, then put him up on trial.
- Drahkar, on 05/25/2008, -1/+19Actually until Bush changed it, it was illegal for the military to get involved with anything inside the borders of the US. That was put into effect after the Civil war to try and prevent it from happening again. And frankly I think it was a good idea. There are plenty of methods for investigating and arresting someone within the borders of the united states. There is absolutely no reason for the Military to get involved. Anyone who says otherwise is just as guilty as this administration.
- SilverBlade2k, on 05/25/2008, -6/+24Maybe the stars on the American flag should be replaced by mini Nazi symbols, at the rate this is going..
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -5/+22You can blame GW all you want. You can have blind faith in Obama. What you fail to realize is that both the democrats and the neo-cons have setup our system to be so bloated, so massive, not to mention even more centralized power, that ***** like this, and more, will happen all the time. The monster is the same even though it has two heads. The blind faith you have in Obama, will only result in another politician that never lives up to their promises, except for the negative. Increasing government, increasing taxes is not freedom, it is more government control over you.
- Focher, on 05/25/2008, -0/+17This is such a major point that I am surprised I don't hear it more often. We have what is called a "limited government" and the Constitution is a grant of power. The Bill of Rights is pretty clear that it is describing restrictions on the government, so I don't understand the interpretation that somehow those restrictions only apply on US soil.
- lordmetroid, on 05/25/2008, -0/+16No need to find anything... Planting false evidence will do just fine.
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -0/+16If they're so sure he's a terrorist why not just try him and be done with it? Why hold him for years without trial or charges?
- thallium205, on 05/25/2008, -0/+16Yahoo news is NOT going down from silly Digg traffic....
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