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- groverblue, on 02/09/2009, -3/+35The US shouldn't support other governments anyway.
- GrodyChamp, on 02/09/2009, -5/+34Wow. Give us your citizens tax dollars to pay for our problems or GTFO? See ya!
- doom777, on 02/09/2009, -2/+29You don't give us money? We suspend your diplomat!
- spoon088, on 02/09/2009, -5/+19Biased article, purposely singles him out as "left-wing." Of course these "left-wing" countries hate the US, we do shady ass ***** in their country like support anti-government factions. We've been doing it for decades.
- Nintendesert, on 02/09/2009, -1/+14Oh yeah, order out a man that had left the country last month. That'll show 'em!!!! Stay tough Ecuador!
- Fishmonkey01, on 02/09/2009, -0/+8This is all a dog-and-pony show put on by the Ecuadorian president to draw attention away from the crumbling economy and his retarded government polices and programs that has increased the cost of food by 50% since he became president 2 years ago. Correa spends millions on advertising and propaganda to maintain his popularity. You can't turn the TV on without seeing a pro-Correa commercial. Correa is publicly expelling an American diplomat who left months ago in order to maintain his public image of a macho tough guy who stands up to the international community.
Remember when Correa declared he'll stop paying foreign loans in December? It was a publicity stunt to impress the Ecuadorian peasants, too. Most Ecuadorians don't have access to the internet or CNN, so the local media is their only news source, and most of it is controlled by Correa's administration (Correa seized two TV stations last year and gave them to the military to control because they regularly criticized his government). The local population doesn't know that he's been quietly paying off those loans after foreign countries (like Brazil) threatened to punish Ecuador.
Correa's administration is dangerously close to running out of money because of the oil price drop. I predict he'll be chased out of office within a year. - doublefelix, on 02/08/2009, -6/+14Ecuador's left wing president is clearly high as the United States would never suspend a dollar in its' overzealous administration of "the war on drugs".
- sockpuppets, on 02/09/2009, -0/+7No soup for you!
- edahms, on 02/09/2009, -1/+7all i have to say is read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman." you'll rethink every single comment you've ever written on digg regarding US relations with other countries.
- Factionrider, on 02/09/2009, -0/+5No, just the ones he's expelling from the country.
- Pureeviljester, on 02/09/2009, -1/+5my nationality is Ecuadorian..
- ernestog84, on 02/09/2009, -0/+4Clearly a publicity stunt... like everything else Correa does. These leftist hipocrites bash the US in public, and privately ask for aid. "unconditional aid"? That's ridiculous, how long do these rulers think the american tax payers are going to see their money ending up in the pockets of corrupt foreign government officials.
- gleongelpi, on 02/09/2009, -0/+4We have been playing this game with latin America for a long time.
"We give you money if you do this."
"We don't give you money if you do not do this."
We have invaded latin countries more than one hundred times.
The carrot and the stick. Use; not use. Deny;not deny.
Giving or not giving money should not be a question at all. It is ony a question because of the long history of such actions.
Or, don't you understand the concept behind the carrot and the stick? - Skab, on 02/09/2009, -3/+7Someones gonna die in a plane crash soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Torrijos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Rold%C3%B3s_Agu ... - commenter01, on 02/09/2009, -5/+8and take your lousy money with you! ...umm... ahh.... WAIT!!! NO, COME BACK!!! please... *cough*, we're starving... drugs... drug lords.... goatses, tubgirls! WE'RE BEING OVERRUN!
/lol - ScotchInBox, on 02/09/2009, -0/+3ditto- tells the whole backstory
- Pureeviljester, on 02/09/2009, -0/+3we're in there cause the CIA led a change in the political party lead...
- shiftkgb, on 02/09/2009, -0/+2You do realize dictators can be on both ends of the political spectrum, right?
- ecualung, on 02/09/2009, -0/+2You've read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," haven't you? Good book. I certainly hope that doesn't happen to Correa. I was in Ecuador when he was elected--actually saw him speak live. He's a really smart guy--he has a PhD from the U of Illinois. Sometimes he plays the Bolivarian populist card, but I don't think he's a crazy by any means.
- gleongelpi, on 02/09/2009, -4/+6These are nothing more than attempts to meddle in the internal affairs of other nations. We need to keep our arses out of their business. Give them neither the carrot nor the stick. In the long wrong we will lose. We are as meddlesome and hypocritic as any government around.
- Pureeviljester, on 02/09/2009, -0/+2if we made them states they wouldn't be colonies...
maybe nothing as strong as the word colony, but we definitely place troops in other countries all while influencing the policies and leaders of their government, which in a way the same thing. - altgeeky1, on 02/09/2009, -0/+2You do know what imperialism means, right?
If these were states, they would be within US borders... - jgzman, on 02/09/2009, -1/+3Someone didn't read the article.
It says that our man refused to release those funds, unless Washington was allowed to pick the head of their drug program. - darkened, on 02/09/2009, -0/+2If this is really true that we aren't giving them aid money for "the war on drugs" I would actually be happy to hear that. I wish we'd stop spending every single penny on "the war on drugs."
- refriaire, on 02/09/2009, -1/+3Want the world to stop sending you drugs? ::sigh:: stop being the biggest dope user. It's a free choice. it's like you know, studying hard and not snorting tons of cocaine and smoking marijuana. Shall we waste our money stopping the drug dealers? Do as WE ask and PAY to solve your OWN problems. NO ONE FORCES US CITIZENS TO KEEP DOING DRUGS.
- soulkitchen, on 02/09/2009, -0/+2Yea, working at Burger King is kinda like blackmail...
- Pureeviljester, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1You think any leader knows where every diplomat in their country is?
- headgames, on 02/09/2009, -1/+2In other words....blackmail
- aijazbaig1, on 02/19/2009, -0/+1ecuador expels second US diplomat:
http://digg.com/world_news/Ecuador_expels_second_U ... - crossmr, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1Why would he jump all over himself to accept the aid of a country in fighting something which it has no historical record of being successful against?
- refriaire, on 02/09/2009, -3/+4You gringos really do not know how your country works do you? The United States rules no one? Yeah, keep dreaming.
Read some of the Stephen Kinzer books and then get back to me. Really, the average US citizen does not know how badly your government behaves in other countries. - coffeecoup, on 02/08/2009, -6/+7Things will smooth over when the rest of the Bush-appointed diplomats are replaced.
- outoforder, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1World superpowers have, and always will support smaller nations in effort to maintain and expand their own power. If we weren't in South America, China or Russia would be. Why is this so difficult for people on Digg to realize?
- ljanumis, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1I going to make an educated guess that most people who have commented either have never traveled to a South American country or have very little understanding of US foreign policy. Although Correa decisions may seem dubious at times, Washington knows the political landscape in the south has changed and countries will no longer tolerate the US strong-arming policies. My prediction is that unless President Obama balks from his inaugural speech promise [To the people of poor nations, we pledge to work alongside you …and to those nations like ours that enjoy relative plenty, we say we can no longer afford indifference to the suffering outside our borders; nor can we consume the world's resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it.] all talks will be just the same rhetoric at the Trinidad summit. One thing to remember, Russia is heavily exerting its presence in the region… something the US is afraid of.
Read John Perkins’ “Confessions of an Economic Hitman” and you’ll see why US hegemony in Latin America is a thing of the past… - nickespinosa, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1Ya basta al Imperialismo!
- outoforder, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1...my point is that, in theory, there's nothing wrong with another country trying to influence a smaller country. This has and always will happen. Digg idealists are out of touch with reality, and don't understand that if we weren't in South America, other superpowers would be. I'm not saying all of our actions are justified, of course not, but we shouldn't be isolationists. I'd rather live in a world dominated by the USA than a world dominated by Russia or China.
- chesterogilvie, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1What is your point?
- nickespinosa, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1Ecuador's economy has a lot better chance of surviving this global collapse than the US does.
BANCOSUR>IMF - nickespinosa, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1Confessions FTW!!
- outoforder, on 02/09/2009, -1/+1But its okay if Russia or China do? People on Digg are too idealistic.
- Madrigalian, on 02/10/2009, -1/+1This is all Obama's fault.
- inactive, on 02/09/2009, -0/+0It would behoove any and all Americans to become familiar with some Latin American history. Just to pique your curiousity, let me rattle off a few nations that have had USA puppet or demi-puppet governments at some time in the 20th century. The toll in life and misery by the USA sponsored death squads will astound you as you educate yourself in this matter.
Nicaragua ( Samoza family ). Dominican Republic ( Trujillo, "El Chivo" ). El Salvador ( D'Aubisson ). Brasil ( Castello Branco et al ). Guatemala ( Arbenz gvt overthrown by CIA, replaced by puppet ). Venezuela. Cuba ( Batista ). Columbia ( Uribe, a demi-puppet ). Honduras. Argentina. Chile ( democracy overthrown by CIA, murderous dicatator Pinochet installed by Kissinger/CIA Sept 11 1973 ). Panama ( a country actually created by the USA ).
Haiti should be added to this list, with an asterisk.
Just poking around on the Wikipedia about these countries will give you some idea. Look up the Arbenz government in Guatemala for example.
Bolivia, Paraguay, Peru, Ecuador, others have had brutal fascist dictators, but I need to get further info before I can say they were actual puppets.
The more informed you become, the less you trust Tio Sam in the War Against Democracy in Latin America.
USA has fought tooth and nail against Democracy all across Latin America, and it seems to be losing the fight. The only country that receives any praise is the brutal Uribe puppet government of Columbia, a virtual client state of the USA. - inactive, on 02/09/2009, -0/+0It would behoove any and all Americans to become familiar with some Latin American history. Just to pique your curiousity, let me rattle off a few nations that have had USA puppet or demi-puppet governments at some time in the 20th century. The toll in life and misery by the USA sponsored death squads will astound you as you educate yourself in this matter.
Nicaragua ( Samoza family ). Dominican Republic ( Trujillo, "El Chivo" ). El Salvador ( D'Aubisson ). Brasil ( Castello Branco et al ). Guatemala ( Arbenz gvt overthrown by CIA, replaced by puppet ). Venezuela. Cuba ( Batista ). Columbia ( Uribe, a demi-puppet ). Honduras. Argentina. Chile ( democracy overthrown by CIA, murderous dicatator Pinochet installed by Kissinger/CIA Sept 11 1973 ). Panama ( a country actually created by the USA ).
Haiti should be added to this list, with an asterisk.
Just poking around on the Wikipedia about these countries will give you some idea. Look up the Arbenz government in Guatemala for example.
Bolivia, Paraguay, Peru, Ecuador, others have had brutal fascist dictators, but I need to get further info before I can say they were actual puppets.
The more informed you become, the less you trust Tio Sam in the War Against Democracy in Latin America. - whatthefu, on 02/09/2009, -2/+2I think there's a little more to it than that.
- nickespinosa, on 02/09/2009, -1/+1Unconditional aid?
Giving money doesn't mean we own a country. Ecuador is a sovereign nation, and have the right to maintain their autonomy.
Just because Chavez has given Millions of dollars of free oil to low income people, and victims of Katrina doesn't mean he gets to choose the mayor of New Orleans. - ernestog84, on 02/10/2009, -1/+1actually... those 700 billion is exactly what I'm arguing against, there are very little conditions... remember those bonuses??? million dollar retreats?? If money is going to be given, it has to be controlled, otherwise they are going to throw a party.
We can go the route of china and give unconditional aid like they did in many parts of africa in order to get their companies in, but we would just be creating an oligarchy addicted to siphoning off aid money. - inactive, on 02/09/2009, -0/+0Exactly. A good place to start is Stephen Kinzer's "OverthrowAmerica's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq "
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Also read "All the Shah's Men" about how the CIA overthrew Iran's democracy in 1953. - drowningfish, on 02/09/2009, -1/+1This is a test? What exactly is he testing? He is refusing our assistance to take control of an obviously failing anti-narcotic program in his country. This individual has resisted any real moves against the drug cartels in his country, and most likely is in their pocket.
As oil continues to drop in price I am sure these so-called acts of nationalistic pride will crumble. Countries like this which have enjoyed a large influx of oil revenue over the last decade, due to the higher costs of oil, are starting to see their revenue slow down. (I believe this article references a 40% dependence on oil revenues alone).
Also...
The United States is not, based upon historical definitions of imperialists, imperialists as you think. Instead the U.S. wields unprecedented power over the globe culturally and economically. It's an indirect form of imperialism. - Rand0m411, on 02/09/2009, -3/+3We shouldn't be financially supporting other countries anyways. Good, pull out our diplomat and pull out any support and protection that our government provides. True as it is that we are hated by left wing countries they still use us as protection against their enemies. Dont think for a second they let us in due to the kindness in their hearts in the first place.
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